This just undermines the creators' talents as storytellers by determining their franchise's worth is solely based on the sexual orientation of their previous leads instead of their ability to create compelling characters.
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And I'm allowed to criticize them for it all I want. This shit isn't made in a vacuum.
Dontnod has the right to tell whatever story they want and consumers have the right to decide not to purchase that story for any reason they want. I don't feel like this should be a complicated concept to understand.
Also, if the original game is any indication, I'm not exactly anticipating groundbreaking Mexican-American representation from the middle-aged French white dudes at Dontnod.
Also, if the original game is any indication, I'm not exactly anticipating groundbreaking Mexican-American representation from the middle-aged French white dudes at Dontnod.
You seem to be interested in representation of only yourself.
Eh, this I can understand. Max and Chloe stood out because they looked like regular teens, and there aren't a lot of them in games.
Meanwhile plain dudes are dime a dozen.
please point out where I asked for trans bisexual white women to star in life is strange 2
I'll wait.
This is a real bummer, I get that most of ERA could more relate to hip, artistic white teens and their music and drama, than it can to two little mexican kids, but its the reverse for me.
And I didn't let that stop me from enjoying Max or Chloe and the whole deal, but it seems that is a tough ask.
And I didn't let that stop me from enjoying Max or Chloe and the whole deal, but it seems that is a tough ask.
i did this for the first LiS.
But i couldn't resist for Before the Storm,and will not wait for LiS 2.
i am weak :(
Also avoiding all those social medias things about LiS 2 will be really difficult :p
Hipster tween girl and punk rock girl definitely aren't that common in video games.
I mean 'we' fans that you are disagreeing with. It was pretty clear too, but hey, whatever you have to do to get a jab in.
No I wouldn't have, and based on Captain Spirit and Vampyr, I'm not giving them that benefit of the doubt.
Max and Chloe were absolutely interesting right from the first trailer, and considering your second statement your opinions on characters is pretty worthless anyway.
I don't think you even understand what you're writing, all your posts have been embarrassing, sorry two Mexican brothers as protagonists are bothering you so much.
I related to them because they were queer girls.
Continuing to pretend it's a race thing isn't helping anybody's case.
I don't think Mexican teenagers are that common in video games either.
I'm interested, dunno if I'll pick it up episode by episode though. I'll wait for the full thing. I think the only game that'll make me buy it per episode basis at this point is Tales of the Borderlands 2.
But like.. They're Mexican dudes with telekinesis. That's not really represented all that well.
Sure, but their designs are boring. They look very plain. Also one of them is a little kid, which sucks.
Like the people who disregard other people's opinion because they imply the users don't like the game because of the Mexican protagonist angle?
I'm pretty sure that the game is going to be great but to me, that was one really uninteresting trailer.
I literally know zero about those two, no hint at their backstory, no support characters shown, nothing. Just an ok premise and that's all.
The LiS1 trailer a few pages back was miles better at communicating what the game was about, this one is just asking you to jump in a leap of faith. I get they want to preserve the mystery, but you gotta get you public interested in the first place, if I didn't know anything about the first one this would hardly be in my radar right now.
I literally know zero about those two, no hint at their backstory, no support characters shown, nothing. Just an ok premise and that's all.
The LiS1 trailer a few pages back was miles better at communicating what the game was about, this one is just asking you to jump in a leap of faith. I get they want to preserve the mystery, but you gotta get you public interested in the first place, if I didn't know anything about the first one this would hardly be in my radar right now.
Holy shit this thread devolved into chaos pretty quickly from an hour ago lol.
Anyway after checking out the trailer, I'm not quite blown away but am intrigued into travelling brothers element and am curious as to what shit went down with the cop and why their on the run in the first place. Hopefully the supporting cast will be strong too but the trailer didn't reveal much on that point.
With it being episodic and releasing late sept after Spider-Man, Tomb Raider & Dragon Quest, I may have to hold off until everything has been released.
Anyway after checking out the trailer, I'm not quite blown away but am intrigued into travelling brothers element and am curious as to what shit went down with the cop and why their on the run in the first place. Hopefully the supporting cast will be strong too but the trailer didn't reveal much on that point.
With it being episodic and releasing late sept after Spider-Man, Tomb Raider & Dragon Quest, I may have to hold off until everything has been released.
Fair enough, but I don't think relatability factor of the brothers has much to do with that, if I'm understanding you correctly. Rather, you simply appreciated the setting, tone, premise, mood, etc. of LiS1 and preferred it. I just feel like folks really lean into that whole relatability thing as if one can only relate to people who hail from a similar walk of life, or are experiencing a scenario very similar to one experienced by the player themselves. We should put forth the effort to relate to characters who are going through all sorts of struggles and rough spots in their lives.
Again, please point to the information that says the 2 new protagonist are 100% straight. Ill wait.
yeah we got more info from a paragraph of a blog post, which sucks.
I'm not saying I agree with it, all I'm saying is that I understand the point of view.
When some are outright saying they dislike the Mexican protagonist angle, like some people have in this thread? Sure.
Thats fair, sure. Can we agree that neither side has great representation in gaming?
Brotherly love and race. I am honestly really surprised. Definitely interested in playing this.
Sure, you can criticize away, but others can call you out for it too. Was it the female protagonist or the optional ways in which you could determine her sexuality what drew you towards the first LiS ?
Don't you think we should give Dontnod a chance with the writing and characterization before immediately jumping on the hate-boat just because the protagonists aren't who you were expecting at a glance ?
Why would you want their story to continue? It's wrapped up. It's done. Anything more is just going to disservice the story that was told. You have to let stories end or else they lose meaning.
That part with the cops and a shooting, wonder what that's about. Do we know when the season wraps up?
But you didn't know Max was queer until basically the end of the game (depending on how you handle the dared kiss) and I can't remember the early trailers for LiS so I don't know how much Chloe and he love of Rachel played into them as it was something you learned over the course of the episodes, that Rachel wasn't just Chloe's friend, or BFF, but a girl she was in love with.
Maybe one of both of these brothers are gay or bi? We don't know yet because we only have this to go off, just like we didn't know the sexuality of the LiS girls until we played the games.
I mean, I guess it's ok if you don't like the game because it features brothers but it's still early days, all we know is they are Hispanic brothers and one of them has telekinesis powers and they are now on the run due to an altercation with a police officer. We don't know about their personality or likes and dislikes or sexuality or anything other than what they look like and what was shown in the trailer.
Literally yes to both? How is this so difficult to understand?
"Relate" is probably a poor word, "interest" is more accurate. As you stated, the original's setting interested me. I liked just walking around a school and town and talking to people. This game's setting has yet to interest me yet, we'll see though. That trailer was pretty poor.
Absolutely, and I AM glad we are getting more hispanic representation.
I like how she dresses, Max had a good taste in clothes and a style you don't really see often in video games.
How is this an interesting, non-plain character design?
I liked it despite the writing... Dontnod aren't really master storytellers. Vampyr was a dud.
And we didn't know the sexuality of Max and Chloe, so the premise was first and foremost female protagonist
Yep. Reading this thread is as embarrassing as going back and reading those.
The sentiment's been around since Captain Spirit came out, or even before when the possibility about an LiS2 not featuring a lesbian protagonist or Max and Chloe was a thing, so this came of no surprise to me. I'm glad, though, that moving forward with LiS2, this should be the acme of what we have to read concerning the subject, either as people stuck on that dismiss LiS2 or as they warm up to it.
While not a particularly interesting trailer, it was short so I'll give it some slack.
Even though I really loved both the first series and the prequel I'm glad they didn't go the CW route and try to placate the divided fanbase and actually went with a brand new arc.
Even though I really loved both the first series and the prequel I'm glad they didn't go the CW route and try to placate the divided fanbase and actually went with a brand new arc.
Sorry if I missed every single reply in the thread, but it's just baffling to me that you're immediately dumping on Dontnod just for the lack of female protagonists, especially after they've already done it once already in their last game.
I'd give the first episode a chance before making the kind of concrete conclusions I'm seeing here personally, comments like 'they look so plain', 'they look so boring' etc.
For a forum about inclusion, the first two pages are pretty shameful on trying to take down the game because they did not include their waifus.
Mexican underaged brothers, a minority to boot, if DONTNOD keeps up with the great storytelling they have used us to with Remember Me, Life is Strange and Vampyr, it will be a fantastic game, with a potential to show things that have not been shown before. How is this even possible to be called upon?
You guys and girls need to give things a chance and don't jump in the first bandwagon you find.
Many of these posts are as a bad as the "Mantagonist. Dropped" from the last DONTNOD Twin Mirror thread.
Mexican underaged brothers, a minority to boot, if DONTNOD keeps up with the great storytelling they have used us to with Remember Me, Life is Strange and Vampyr, it will be a fantastic game, with a potential to show things that have not been shown before. How is this even possible to be called upon?
You guys and girls need to give things a chance and don't jump in the first bandwagon you find.
Many of these posts are as a bad as the "Mantagonist. Dropped" from the last DONTNOD Twin Mirror thread.
Have the entire first one on Steam. Should I go back and play it to completion if I found the first few hours boring?
In other words does it get better?
In other words does it get better?
Yes. First episode is kinda meh. It starts picking up in the final stretch of episode 2 onward.
She seemed incredibly plain to me and I kinda thought that was the point
First episode is a bit dull. Gets better and better from there.
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