So I guess I'm looking at OLEDs again when I was thinking about getting the TCL 8 series.
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LG's 2019 OLED TVs certified NVIDIA G-SYNC on 20 and 16 series. Force VRR over HDMI coming too.
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So I guess I'm looking at OLEDs again when I was thinking about getting the TCL 8 series.
That might actually be the case.
It's still good that more TV's will be supporting VRR features.
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I assume Nvidia will release an update for GPUs that have HDMI 2.0B.
This is not Gsync, this is Gsync compatible which most freesync screens are (we'll, not all of them but if you have a recent freesync monitor it is probably compatible with it).
Not gonna lie but Gsync has a naming issue and causes confusion like this. There's also Gsync v2 which is not even listet here.
Not gonna lie but Gsync has a naming issue and causes confusion like this. There's also Gsync v2 which is not even listet here.
The LG C9 supports HDMI 2.1 VRR, not freesync, the Xbox one X supports both. Right now on PC there is 0 support for VRR, since none of the GPU's have HDMI 2.1. So this news is a nice bonus for anyone with a C9.
Didn't know that. I thought Samsung were the only ones with any form of VRR before this.
Yeah, this is good. But I use RTSS to lock my fps in PC games to 60fps when I play on my C8. Still, if/when I get a new TV g-sync would be a bonus.
Hope next-gen aims to take advantage of this as often as possible.
I hope some of the more refined uses of temporal reconstruction can be used in console gaming to aim for lower native resolution rendering and higher target framerates. I know Gears 5 is a very specific use case and very much was labored away at reaching the 60fps target, but the result is ultimately quite incredible, and I think with even a mid-tier PC resemblance in the next gen spec, we could see 120Hz achieved fairly regularly -- at least, assuming we're okay with the sacrifice being current-gen picture quality.
I hope some of the more refined uses of temporal reconstruction can be used in console gaming to aim for lower native resolution rendering and higher target framerates. I know Gears 5 is a very specific use case and very much was labored away at reaching the 60fps target, but the result is ultimately quite incredible, and I think with even a mid-tier PC resemblance in the next gen spec, we could see 120Hz achieved fairly regularly -- at least, assuming we're okay with the sacrifice being current-gen picture quality.
"G-sync" and "Free-sync" are simply Nvidia and AMD branding for their software/driver implementation of variable refresh rate technologies. This being Gsync compatible doesn't mean it won't work with consoles or AMD hardware, unless it's using a proprietary HW module (which it's not).
Nvidia has been supporting Gsync without hardware modules for years via laptop displays, and this year opened it up to external monitors.
There is nothing stopping AMD and LG from working together to let these TV's support Freesync - the hardware required is all there, although it would probably mean a TV update and maybe also a GPU driver update.
Yes this is one of the biggest takeaways from here - although it may end up being something stupid like "only on hdmi 2.1 compatible TV's". Hopefully not.
The other big takeaway is that this probably means that HDMI 2.1 TV's may end up getting broad support for PC VRR at least from LG and (almost certainly) Samsung.
Jesus FUCKING Christ!
WOW
I've been begging for this for so long.
WOW
I've been begging for this for so long.
At 1080p, yes.
Given that I've had my current TV for over a decade, it may be worthwhile to invest in a more future proof upgrade...
At least, until MicroLED becomes affordable.
At least, until MicroLED becomes affordable.
It's a bandwidth issue, the LG can drive 120/4k/HDR/4:4:4 if you can get it to the TV, but 1440p/120 should be doable over regular cables since they can do 4k60 which is more pixels.
At least it will at 1080p:
In addition, the E9 and C9 TVs will allow games to be played in HDR10 or Dolby Vision at up to 120 frames per second (at full HD resolution), thanks to the low-latency modes of HDMI 2.1.
Super noob question but I always thought G-Sync was mostly useful for preventing tearing/stuttering at variable FPS's (which is usually at the maximum of the GPU's capability).
It has been a few years since I've played on a console, but is screen tearing ever actually an issue on console? I didn't think it was.
It has been a few years since I've played on a console, but is screen tearing ever actually an issue on console? I didn't think it was.
What about the B9? It's essentially the same TV as the C9 with a lower peak brightness. Its HDMI-VRR compatible. I'm aiming to pick one up this Black Friday but if this is exclusive to the C9 and higher I may spend the extra cash.
Edit: a quick google search shows it will also be coming to the B9. Great news.
Edit: a quick google search shows it will also be coming to the B9. Great news.
I continue to be mad at myself for buying the C8. No AirPlay update. No VRR. Should have just got a B7 for cheaper.
This is not Gsync, this is Gsync compatible which most freesync screens are (we'll, not all of them but if you have a recent freesync monitor it is probably compatible with it).
Not gonna lie but Gsync has a naming issue and causes confusion like this. There's also Gsync v2 which is not even listet here.
most freesync screens are not G-SYNC Compatible, as that requires testing by Nvidia. Most just have unvalidated G-SYNC support (unrepresented in that chart) since it was recently unlocked. but I guess this just furthers your point that the naming scheme is fucked. A screen can be 'compatible with G-SYNC' but not 'G-SYNC Compatible'. They should have called it certified or something
"We are excited to bring G-SYNC Compatible support to LG's 2019 OLED TVs and HDMI Variable Refresh Rate support to our GeForce RTX 20-Series GPUs,"
Why am I not surprised at this? Welp, time to sell my 1070 Ti.
edit: GTX 16-series is also supported
"LG E9 and C9 models, ranging in size from 55 to 75-inches, will receive G-SYNC Compatible firmware updates later this year. Simultaneously, we'll release a new GeForce Game Ready Driver, enabling GeForce RTX and GeForce GTX 16-Series gamers to connect their PCs via HDMI to validated G-SYNC Compatible LG TVs."
Source: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/lg-gsync-compatible-hdmi-big-screen-gaming/
Why am I not surprised at this? Welp, time to sell my 1070 Ti.
edit: GTX 16-series is also supported
"LG E9 and C9 models, ranging in size from 55 to 75-inches, will receive G-SYNC Compatible firmware updates later this year. Simultaneously, we'll release a new GeForce Game Ready Driver, enabling GeForce RTX and GeForce GTX 16-Series gamers to connect their PCs via HDMI to validated G-SYNC Compatible LG TVs."
Source: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/lg-gsync-compatible-hdmi-big-screen-gaming/
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Urrrrrggghhhhh I kinda hate that this is happening now that I am looking to build a new PC and buy a new TV.......
It's so fucking expensive.
It's so fucking expensive.
I really want to pick up a C9 for my new apartment during Black Friday. Here's to hoping there'll be decent enough sales.
lol no
It won't even work on the 2018 OLEDs
B7 has that terrible dim HDR since they don't get dynamic tone mapping in game mode. Be glad you have a C8.