Lol imagine doubling down on tHEy diDn'T eArN mY V0tE drivel while the president is doing a full authoritarian fascist speed run.
Kanye West announces Presidential run
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I think Kanye is more likely to draw young white voters than black voters, but it's disingenuous to compare him to Joe Exotic when Kanye was a hugely influential artist who was actually in the Oval Office rubbing his body against Donald Trump.
For 2020? It's not happening. The left thinks he's a jackass, and the right would never vote for a black guy right now, especially considering all that's been happening lately with the BLM movement. Even the evangelical conservatives who are starting to become disillusioned with Trump wouldn't vote for this guy.
Has anyone even laid out a plausible scenario for Kanye to get on the ballot of the swing states? This is all just people having fun bullshitting on the weekend, right?
Past experience with Trump or even overall fame don't even matter in this scenario. The issue is the outright offensive assumption by many that Kanye could draw the black vote simply because he's a rapper.
The comparison probably isn't the best because some white people would actually be dumb enough to vote for Exotic in a serious independent run but I'd say focus more on the "working class" aspect of the comparison as that's just as baseless as saying Kanye is a threat to the black vote.
I don't for one second think he's going for MY (Black) vote in particular, but as a reformed Fuckboi, there are WAY more than y'all think. This is fucking disastrous, IMO. Perhaps I'm handwringing, but this shit scares me. 2020 is already fucked, and this shit is wack.
Its a good thing that Kanye has no fucking clue what reality hes living in, because he is about to be in for a tough dose of it when he tries to appeal to his favorite republican base and they adamantly oppose him as an authority figure because hes black. The GOP will point to him as their "im not racist, i have a black friend" all they want, but when he tries to become their leader, they arent gonna let that fly.
I doubt the vast VAST majority would believe that for a second, and I'm sure others are just scared about a potential spoiler (kanye would be okay with that) which wouldn't take much, because of all the fucking celeb worship out there, which would include the Kardashians.
I'm of the mind that trump conservs will play it up as a great thing, cheer him on, etc. but it won't make any meaningful impact.
if this is actually a serious thing that is.
Kanye wasn't the Chair of the Foriegn Relations Committee having a strong hand in starting and perpetuating the Iraq War. Kanye didn't lead the effort in passing a law to greatly expand our prison industrial complex, or in passing a law that punishes poor people facing bankrupcies while leaving big businesses facing bankrupcy alone. And as far as I'm aware, Kanye doesn't have a history of being handsy with underage girls and face credible allegations of rape.
Biden is in contention for the worst democratic senator in my life time. Others might have worse voting records but none I can think of fought so proactively and achieved such horrible things.
I don't know any liberals saying "There goes the black vote." I've read tons of takes of "Listen to liberals saying 'there goes the black vote.'" On the other hand, I see lots of racist conservatives churtling with glee about "there goes the black vote for Biden," people who -- 3 days ago -- were using Kanye as evidence for how Trump has a stronger black support than the unfair mainstream media is willing to show.
As a liberal, I'm less nervous about Kanye disrupting any part of this election than I was Justin Amash. At this point with Trump down by double-digits nationally and doing very poorly in the electoral college projections, I don't want any wild cards. This is also one instance in which the electoral college sort of insulates the results from an insurgent celebrity candidate, because Biden has to win two out of three states, Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin (which he has a strong lead in), and then any one out of 6 states -- Florida, Iowa, Texas, Georgia, Arizona, or North Carolina. President Kanye has no influence anywhere, but he has even less than zero influence in the three battleground states and then atleast one of the six potential R->D conservative swings.
As a liberal, I'm less nervous about Kanye disrupting any part of this election than I was Justin Amash. At this point with Trump down by double-digits nationally and doing very poorly in the electoral college projections, I don't want any wild cards. This is also one instance in which the electoral college sort of insulates the results from an insurgent celebrity candidate, because Biden has to win two out of three states, Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin (which he has a strong lead in), and then any one out of 6 states -- Florida, Iowa, Texas, Georgia, Arizona, or North Carolina. President Kanye has no influence anywhere, but he has even less than zero influence in the three battleground states and then atleast one of the six potential R->D conservative swings.
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I'm not seeing "there goes the black vote."
I am seeing a lot of "there goes the youth vote."
But I don't even think the youth is checking for Kanye like that?
It's like, yeah people line up for the new Jordans...but I don't think most people really care about what Michael Jordan thinks (outside of his fantastic documentary).
I am seeing a lot of "there goes the youth vote."
But I don't even think the youth is checking for Kanye like that?
It's like, yeah people line up for the new Jordans...but I don't think most people really care about what Michael Jordan thinks (outside of his fantastic documentary).
Vote shaming is underrated. You should be ashamed of yourself for not voting! It's the easiest fucking thing you can do as a citizen to enact change, and one of the most impactful. It's one thing if your vote is being actively suppressed. But if the only thing stopping you from you voting is you, then yes, you should be feeling shame.
While that number is likely nowhere near being real, this would be the fear.
All these people handwringing being like "haha, Classic. Racist liberals showing their asses assuming this means the black vote is gone. This is dumb and means nothing." are missing the forest for the trees.
Skin color be damned, if dude has "meme appeal" by November, you're going to potentially have 1000s of votes wasted in a year where we need all hands on deck. Whether those hands belong to super tuned in politicos, or (quite frankly) morons that are willing to waste their vote on a joke. That 2nd group does not need to be given options.
If he picks up any sort of cultural steam, it's like the youth version of Bloomberg coming back into the race. Even if he weren't on the ballot, you would still have a bunch of moron boomers falling for his shit.
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For real. God, people have really been showing their asses over the last 24 hours. Goes to show how little respect white liberals have for the black voters that carry them to electoral victory every fucking year.
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For real. God, people have really been showing their asses over the last 24 hours. Goes to show how little respect white liberals have for the black voters that carry them to electoral victory every fucking year.
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I should be clearer; I meant outside of Era. lol
Yep, when I was younger I used to not vote also. Then I actually did it and it took 5-10 minutes at most and there were no lines going during the early voting period. Please go to the polls and have your voice heard. We will never get positive change without voting in people fighting for your rights down ballot
Fair enough. The timing couldn't have been more unfortunate, though.
Definitely. I've been fully on board the vote-shame train ever since Nader. It's both fun and good for the world to shame idiots for their dumb reasons for their terrible decisions.
For real. God, people have really been showing their asses over the last 24 hours. Goes to show how little respect white liberals have for the black voters that carry them to electoral victory every fucking year.
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That's literally one person.
Please don't let that get in the way of unfounded, inflammatory generalizations about "white liberals."
There doesn't really seem to be any productive discussion to be had about this. As such, we're locking this.
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