This is always used as an attack on this forum. What is wrong with asking questions???
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questionsThis is always used as an attack on this forum. What is wrong with asking questions???
None of us know what happened; however, in light of the way the story developed (20/20 hindsight and all), banning skeptics may have been unproductive.It's same story every time. This smelled fishy from the start, but you had to know there was a good chance you'd be banned if you didn't toe the line.
The frequency in which it comes up in this forum just leads me to believe a group of posters are paranoid that secretly everyone is alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice.
did we just witness a 'just asking questions' about just asking questions?The frequency in which it comes up in this forum just leads me to believe a group of posters are paranoid that secretly everyone is alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice.
Secretly everyone? Get the fuck out. They are concerned that there are posters on this forum that exhibit similar right or right leaning views and calling that paranoia is basically gaslighting.The frequency in which it comes up in this forum just leads me to believe a group of posters are paranoid that secretly everyone is alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice.
The frequency in which it comes up in this forum just leads me to believe a group of posters are paranoid that secretly everyone is alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice.
hey he's just asking questions.is it more or less paranoid than the view you hold of the moderation here?
Considering how many other posters referred to the moderation in this topic, I wouldn't say that is me being paranoid.is it more or less paranoid than the view you hold of the moderation here?
This is exactly what I mean when it is used as an attack. What are you insinuating exactly?
that you were "led to believe" that some people secretly think everyone are alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice here. and that you're seeking clarification, what's wrong with that?Considering how many other posters referred to the moderation in this topic, I wouldn't say that is me being paranoid.
This is exactly what I mean when it is used as an attack. What are you insinuating exactly?
that you were "led to believe" that some people secretly think everyone are alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice here. and that you're seeking clarification, what's wrong with that?
u a genius.This thread is fucking weird.
Something close to the truth will eventually come out, what's the rush?
One group seems to actually want someone to be the victim of a hate crime just to reinforce their "choice" to be a voice on the frontlines of our national conversation: the all-volunteer nintendo message board. Another is hoping to do that thing where they can say, "I knew this was shady, check my posts," but no one gives a shit. The mods are (rightfully) getting dunked on left and right for being controlling, obtuse weirdos, and I bet entremet has his hooks in somehow. Won't presume to speak for anyone else, but this isn't what I had in mind. The pettiness.
That's the best thing to do.I'm just waiting for the facts on this one and will ignore the discussion.
What's the timeline for the whole scenario, by the by? Like when did the attack get reported?
It's just an easy way to dismiss people's opinions without addressing the actual questions.The frequency in which it comes up in this forum just leads me to believe a group of posters are paranoid that secretly everyone is alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice.
Pretty much this.So it should be cool for some of you to doubt Jussie's story but when I express doubt about some of you, it's off base.
Funny how that shakes out.
Correct, and this is a problem I think needs to be talked about more around here. I was banned for two weeks for simply explaining why I had doubts about this story from the very beginning. Several posters labeled me a racist who didn't want to see this gay black man as the victim he was.It's just an easy way to dismiss people's opinions without addressing the actual questions.
People were implying that his account wasn't truthful.Did anyone actually claim he was lying in the previous thread? All I saw was some raised eyebrows.
Sometimes it has nothing to do with doubting a person because they are black or gay or anything else. I have no doubt there are tons of asshats in this country that would be happy to beat him for being black or gay. This story just always seemed really weird with the particular details. The timeline just never felt right.Pretty much this.
Coming in hard on doubtinga persons story always feels like they have an agenda and if calling a black dude talking about racism a liar is your hill to die on i think you need to be okay with getting some side eye from everyone else. THis story is awful if it goes either way and black people will be the victims both ways, its a shit sandwich and im sad my city has to deal with both outcomes.
There's suspicion now because it was reported that the attackers were white, shouted MAGA related statements, and randomly attacked Jussie. But now it appears the attackers are actually black, targeted Jussie specifically and then immediately flew out of the country. It's hard to target someone if you have no idea where/when they're going to be, but somehow these guys came upon him at 2:00am while he was on a spur of the moment trip to Subway. Regardless, we'll know more either way this evening when the police arrest the two men in question or release them. It's pointless to speculate until then given all the shit the media has gotten wrong from the start.I've only been loosely following this (basically just catching up with whatever they're saying on Good Morning America), but why is there suspicion that this was made up? It is highly unlikely that someone -- especially someone this high-profile -- would make something like this up.
I find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019. You will only believe this to be the case if you spend too much time living on the internet.I've only been loosely following this (basically just catching up with whatever they're saying on Good Morning America), but why is there suspicion that this was made up? It is highly unlikely that someone -- especially someone this high-profile -- would make something like this up.
I find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019. You will only believe this to be the case if you spend too much time living on the internet.
So what is more probable? That he lying about this, or even totally made it up? Or that the kind of boogiemen that intersectional twitter always rails against were in an upscale Chicago neighborhood carrying a noose and bleach while he came home from a midnight snack?
I at first thought he was beat up probably because something happened at a night club, or because drugs or money owed or something. Now I lean toward this being completely staged for some reason. However, I still would not be surprised if the two peoples arrested acted independently and this was over a personal matter.
I find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019. You will only believe this to be the case if you spend too much time living on the internet.
So what is more probable? That he lying about this, or even totally made it up? Or that the kind of boogiemen that intersectional twitter always rails against were in an upscale Chicago neighborhood carrying a noose and bleach while he came home from a midnight snack?
I at first thought he was beat up probably because something happened at a night club, or because drugs or money owed or something. Now I lean toward this being completely staged for some reason. However, I still would not be surprised if the two peoples arrested acted independently and this was over a personal matter.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...elected-fbi-data-show/?utm_term=.c3de5f766c1cI find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019. You will only believe this to be the case if you spend too much time living on the internet.
So what is more probable? That he lying about this, or even totally made it up? Or that the kind of boogiemen that intersectional twitter always rails against were in an upscale Chicago neighborhood carrying a noose and bleach while he came home from a midnight snack?
I at first thought he was beat up probably because something happened at a night club, or because drugs or money owed or something. Now I lean toward this being completely staged for some reason. However, I still would not be surprised if the two peoples arrested acted independently and this was over a personal matter.
I find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019.
Amazing. What rock did you crawl out of?I find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019. You will only believe this to be the case if you spend too much time living on the internet.
So what is more probable? That he lying about this, or even totally made it up? Or that the kind of boogiemen that intersectional twitter always rails against were in an upscale Chicago neighborhood carrying a noose and bleach while he came home from a midnight snack?
I at first thought he was beat up probably because something happened at a night club, or because drugs or money owed or something. Now I lean toward this being completely staged for some reason. However, I still would not be surprised if the two peoples arrested acted independently and this was over a personal matter.
This has nothing to do with race. Yes, there are crazy gullible people. You also ignore that this sort of racism is incredibly rare now. America does not really have these sort of lynchings any longer.A man went into a pizza shop and almost shot it up because the internet told them they were trafficking children.
saying it's far fetched is just ignoring all of the examples racist white people give this country every day
Mob violence is an entirely different psychological phenomenon.From two nights ago:
That cartoon character being held back amidst all those other cartoon characters was attacking a cameraman because Trump just told him that the press are evil.
This has nothing to do with race. Yes, there are crazy gullible people. You also ignore that this sort of racism is incredibly rare now. America does not really have these sort of lynchings any longer.
Had somebody throw something at him from a car or called him a slur, I would believe it. But you seem to fear that there are white people searching for non-white peoples to physically harm every hour of every day in ever place in America. Some people like this doubtlessly exist. They do not exist in numbers great enough to worry about.
This has nothing to do with race. Yes, there are crazy gullible people. You also ignore that this sort of racism is incredibly rare now. America does not really have these sort of lynchings any longer.
Had somebody throw something at him from a car or called him a slur, I would believe it. But you seem to fear that there are white people searching for non-white peoples to physically harm every hour of every day in ever place in America. Some people like this doubtlessly exist. They do not exist in numbers great enough to worry about.
What a way to show yourself up. Enjoy that bubble.I find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019. You will only believe this to be the case if you spend too much time living on the internet.
So what is more probable? That he lying about this, or even totally made it up? Or that the kind of boogiemen that intersectional twitter always rails against were in an upscale Chicago neighborhood carrying a noose and bleach while he came home from a midnight snack?
I at first thought he was beat up probably because something happened at a night club, or because drugs or money owed or something. Now I lean toward this being completely staged for some reason. However, I still would not be surprised if the two peoples arrested acted independently and this was over a personal matter.
LOLI find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019.
Even if a situation feels fishy, and your first thought to a vitcim of some kind of assualt is "is dont think this is true" what do you get by just been an outward asshole to victims, other than some kind of vindication later.Sometimes it has nothing to do with doubting a person because they are black or gay or anything else. I have no doubt there are tons of asshats in this country that would be happy to beat him for being black or gay. This story just always seemed really weird with the particular details. The timeline just never felt right.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...oose-around-black-classmates-neck/1385338002/This has nothing to do with race. Yes, there are crazy gullible people. You also ignore that this sort of racism is incredibly rare now. America does not really have these sort of lynchings any longer.
Had somebody throw something at him from a car or called him a slur, I would believe it. But you seem to fear that there are white people searching for non-white peoples to physically harm every hour of every day in ever place in America. Some people like this doubtlessly exist. They do not exist in numbers great enough to worry about.
OK, you're clearly just trolling.You also ignore that this sort of racism is incredibly rare now.
Metadid we just witness a 'just asking questions' about just asking questions?
The thing you are describing as being incredibly rare in 2019 is mob violence. And since you brought up lynchings:Mob violence is an entirely different psychological phenomenon.
America does not really have these sort of lynchings any longer.