I've said it before but Jonathan Blow is the Billy Corgan of video games.
This is the definition Google gave me: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed."People really need to stop throwing the word 'pretentious' around, if they don't know what it means.
reminds me of projared playing undertale. the level at which you can hate simple charming stuff when you go in wanting to hate it is pretty wild. there was a parody summarizing that whole mess pretty well
He's also a Covid-19 truther. After getting heavy backlash from his tweets a couple weeks ago he deleted a bunch of it though.
I've said it before but Jonathan Blow is the Billy Corgan of video games.
There was a youtube series where he was just talking to people/his family about his life and things and it was pretty nice from what I seen of it. Still a pretty weird dude, but he didn't seem so insufferably douchey. I could be wrong based on other replies to that post though.
That's hilarious. Blow is so far up his own ass that it's difficult to sympathize with him on anything regarding game design he hates.I remember watching this live and every minute of this game was agony for him cause he couldn't take the praise this game was getting
What.Blow is extremely questionable. Defended the alt right, and made some ridiculously stupid comments about women.
I don't believe he's apologised for either at any point.
Also I'm reading in this thread he's an covid 19 conspiracy theorist? Add it to the pile!
People really need to stop throwing the word 'pretentious' around, if they don't know what it means.
Jonathan?I'm not really sure I understand the point of the thread, but that isn't to say that Jon Blow has never said an interesting thing nor has moments in his stream where he is entertaining, just that the video linked in OP is basically 4 hours of a person playing a videogame. It's not made any better by the fact that the game being played is relatively boring to watch in this context. This isn't a breakdown of BotW as a game, or a critical analysis, it's a dude playing a game for 4 hours. You're gonna have to weigh the value of that yourself.
If you actually *want* to see Jon Blow be entertaining or informative, by all means, watch some of his speeches or game design-related discussions on YouTube. Learn about his programming language, Jai, or the compiler / game he is writing to support it. But don't expect anything special out of the video linked in OP.
In seriousness, I think Jonathan does situate a lot of his critiques of games he's playing (in this video and in general) specifically in the context of his being a game designer. Which he definitely is! So that's fair! But when he's vocally criticizing elements of design with a tone like they were designed 'wrong', or that their design is insufficient to their intention, it pushes a video like this from let's-play to an object of critical analysis. He's making arguments about how the game has been constructed and the ways in which that construction is wanting.Jon is short for Jonathan. What exactly are you asking?
edit: Oh. I get it!
In seriousness, I think Jonathan does situate a lot of his critiques of games he's playing (in this video and in general) specifically in the context of his being a game designer. Which he definitely is! So that's fair! But when he's vocally criticizing elements of design with a tone like they were designed 'wrong', or that their design is insufficient to their intention, it pushes a video like this from let's-play to an object of critical analysis. He's making arguments about how the game has been constructed and the ways in which that construction is wanting.
I can only get like two tweets because thankfully discord previews don't disappear even though a tweet gets deleted. But he had a pretty long conspiracy thread with tons of replies to people back on March 18th which he all deleted after the blowback about his conspiracies.Any receipts for this? Given his other comments, I wouldn't be surprised, but curious to see what exactly he said.
I can only get like two tweets because thankfully discord previews don't disappear even though a tweet gets deleted. But he had a pretty long conspiracy thread with tons of replies to people back on March 18th which he all deleted after the blowback about his conspiracies.
What mess? Him not liking the game?
This seems more like people not being able to deal with someone else not loving their favourite game and Undertale fans are particularly annoying.
It's textbook anti-playing, where like you said they go in wanting to hate the game. So the player intentionally fails at puzzles or intentionally pretends that the game isn't giving clear instructions. Or the player moves the camera to weird, illogical places and says things like "this makes no sense". You go into a fight and do nothing to defend yourself and claim the game did nothing for you in that instance. The player opens a menu or two and immediately gives up on what they're looking at rather than discerning what's in front of them. The worst part about an anti-play is how unaware the player is that what they're doing is extremely obvious. Like a five-year-old attempting to lie to a parent about who ate the cookies when they're covered in crumbs.no? you didn't watch the video. he went in from second 1 with a "this game better be the stuff of gods" mentality and immediately took a dislike to it when anything didn't meet his crazy expectations.
it's perfectly reasonable to not like it and many don't, what isn't reasonable is going into it wanting to hate it and then going "all this game of the year shit for it? nah uh. let's be real here."
all sounds pretty similar to the botw video here
Wasn't trying to be reductive or critical of it, I'm just saying I see people call the witness this masterpiece, best game ever made, etc, and I try playing and I just don't see it, all it appeared to be was just an okay puzzle game with the main gimmick being you walk through a pretty world from puzzle to puzzle and nothing really beyond that. It seems like a fine game but I don't really get why it's revered as a masterpiece by some.The reduction of a videogame down to "the same thing getting harder" as criticism is incredible.
I started calling The Witness "Myst for Assholes" years ago and I stand by that.Wasn't trying to be reductive or critical of it, I'm just saying I see people call the witness this masterpiece, best game ever made, etc, and I try playing and I just don't see it, all it appeared to be was just an okay puzzle game with the main gimmick being you walk through a pretty world from puzzle to puzzle and nothing really beyond that. It seems like a fine game but I don't really get why it's revered as a masterpiece by some.
Welp.I can only get like two tweets because thankfully discord previews don't disappear even though a tweet gets deleted. But he had a pretty long conspiracy thread with tons of replies to people back on March 18th which he all deleted after the blowback about his conspiracies.
People really need to stop throwing the word 'pretentious' around, if they don't know what it means.
I mean he's a guy that made 1 good game in Braid and then The Witness which was bleh.
And he's criticizing Nintendo on game design...
I think pretentious fits.
I started calling The Witness "Myst for Assholes" years ago and I stand by that.
There has to be better ways to handle this than saying people aren't allowed to criticise design decisions until you've made X games that I approve of.
Not that I found anything remarkable skimming through the video or anything, but I can't disagree that the Great Plateau insta death zone is more ambiguous than it needed to be, for example.
This is the definition Google gave me: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed."
That's absolutely Jonathon Blow.
I mean he's a guy that made 1 good game in Braid and then The Witness which was bleh.
And he's criticizing Nintendo on game design...
I think pretentious fits.
I'm pretty sure that poster meant JONATHAN BLOW needs to stop using the word pretentious because he doesn't know what it means, because Blow calls the Zelda puzzle-solved jingle "pretentious" in the video.
I've said it before but Jonathan Blow is the Billy Corgan of video games.
Jonathan Blow got a ton of praise for making a game where the premise is exploring an island and solving puzzles.