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Joe Biden says he'll keep US embassy in Jerusalem if elected president
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Damn shame. Its still the one thing I liked most about Bernie. An American Politician willing to speak on Israel and Palestine in a truthful and honest way. When he spoke on it during the debate I damn near double taked.
Hes a fucking unicorn in that respect. All other American Politicians on both sides of the isle are dogshit on this issue. Its remarkable.
Hes a fucking unicorn in that respect. All other American Politicians on both sides of the isle are dogshit on this issue. Its remarkable.
There are a lot of things that the GOP and Trump have let out of the bottle that like it or not were probably only allowed to stay as status quo for a long time because of the sensitivity around them, like this issue. The GOP and more specifically Trump pealed off a lot of bandaids with zero finesse but that in the end have not caused the American public to really care to much because ultimately a lot of people just don't care. Democrats are not going to be in a rush to put things like this back when first of it wasn't they who did it and they aren't going to give the GOP ammunition to call Democrats anti Israel in an election year and give them the issue back to run on as a wedge issue in the future. It's done, it's staying but that doesn't mean we abandon the Palestinians it just means a new plan around the new normal will have to be worked out. This goes for everything Trump has undone and taken for instance presidential powers, if Biden wins and we take back the senate we are looking at the most powerful democratic president in a long time and all thanks to the GOP.
Both sides are the same is unfortunately a broken clock situation.
we're absolutely and disproportionately beholden to that country, its PAC and our wretched history of failing all the people who live there (including the Jewish Israelis who want to live in peace and prosperity alongside their fellow man) and in the surrounding regions. And for mostly if not all the wrong reasons.
we can't even undo a pointless and dangerous insult? We teach our kids better than that.
we're absolutely and disproportionately beholden to that country, its PAC and our wretched history of failing all the people who live there (including the Jewish Israelis who want to live in peace and prosperity alongside their fellow man) and in the surrounding regions. And for mostly if not all the wrong reasons.
we can't even undo a pointless and dangerous insult? We teach our kids better than that.
I'm saying that if he moved it back, or threatened to move it back, he wouldn't gain any leverage because all trust in the idea would immediately evaporate.
Because people need to realize that America is a shit country that will never work for the people that truly need help.
Now we have two alleged rapists supporting apartheid running for president. What a wonderful election this will be.
I mean, the polling is pretty clear. I wasn't a Biden voter in the primary, but we have mountains of evidence that he's a pretty strong GE candidate. You see the Montana polls this week? Fucking wild. Wilder than I thought possible.
i mean he's probably happy the republicans bit the bullet and did it first
not that we should be surprised. iirc biden was more of an isreal hawk then Obama.
not that we should be surprised. iirc biden was more of an isreal hawk then Obama.
Yup
Some things are more important than winning votes
how diseased are we as a country that our first instinct is "well this wouldn't be good for his electoral prospects", as though the immiseration of the palestinian people is just a poll number
waddling around like a bunch of idiots going "well gee, it sure does look like these brown people are getting starved to death by the israelis, but I'm gonna need to see how dan in grand rapids feels about this first"
waddling around like a bunch of idiots going "well gee, it sure does look like these brown people are getting starved to death by the israelis, but I'm gonna need to see how dan in grand rapids feels about this first"
S.Res.176 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): A resolution commemorating the 50th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem.
Summary of S.Res.176 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): A resolution commemorating the 50th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem.
www.congress.gov
Sanders (I-VT), Yea
This is from 2017, not some distant past. Trump cited this resolution when he moved the embassy (the JEA it reaffirms requires the President to move the embassy)
Of course this rapist wouldn't do that.
It still blows my mind this piece of shit is the one people decided to follow.
It still blows my mind this piece of shit is the one people decided to follow.
Trump punted the fucking football so far to the right that Uncle Joe will have to barely kick it back. Makes sense since a vote for him is simply a life support vote for the progressive laws and judges somehow still in place. It's this sort of milquetoast centrism that will probably manifest in other ways too.
First post nails it.
Remember, Biden is responsible for going behind Obama's back to assure Bibi that all the things Obama wanted him to do to secure a two-state peace deal will not happen because he'll [Biden] go against it from his side.
Source: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/03/29/special-relationships
Nothing surprising. American foreign politics rarely change just because the president represents different party. Obama drone striked the hell out of Middle East, just like Bush before him. Biden is doing the same thing.
Biden sabotaged attempts by Obama and Hillary to pacify conflict in Israel.
Did you see what happened in the UK when Labour had a leader who wasn't fully behind Israel? And the US is way worse on that front.