By 25 the first diseases caused by age started.Anyone older than 25 in most anime basically have one foot in a coffin so it makes sense.
I'm a teacher in Japan, 30, unmarried, and my students tell me all the time that it's going to be impossible to find someone now.
High school life is romanticized because the adult world in Japan is the greyest, most boring, most rote, soul sucking place to exist in a first world country. It's just work, work, work, not to mention all the little rules you have to follow, both at work and in everyday life.
I'm making Japan sound like a hellhole - it's not - but high school feels like paradise by comparison to the working world to a lot of people, I think. Which is funny, because high school here is a lot more rigid than in the west, too. But there's an overwhelming sense of community and place in the kid's assigned classes, their clubs, their circles of friends. Meanwhile, adult society is all about being a faceless cog.
Also, I KNEW this thread was going to be about Raven. I'm also playing Vesperia, and seeing how they treat this guy so dangerously close to my age is frightening. I even noticed how weird it was when I played the game for the first time ten years ago, but I really feel it now.
The medieval average life span was mostly due to children dying during birth or shortly after. If anyone got past early childhood they generally had a good chance of making it to their 50s.In medieval times, your 30s probably was pretty old. Maybe they're doing it for suspension of disbelief?
I think that is part of the reason, but also I think it is worth mentioning that NieR Gestalt was only available on the Xbox 360 in Japan which was a very unpopular console in Japan.Take Nier, where the old man version sold far less in Japan than the one where you play as a pretty boy.
They have a derogatory term for women over 25. "Christmas cakes" because you throw them out on the 26th.
It wouldn't be as annoying if the starring cast of JRPGs were more diverse. I cant even remember the last time I had a main playable MC on a JRPG that had any facial hair. The closest was Noctis (who looked cool as shit) but you barely get to play as him for an hour in a 80 hour game.
I like to imagine jrpg characters as 10 years older most of the time, which makes a lot more sense in most cases. Except actual children or if the game is set on a high school like Persona or Cold Steel.
IIRC a study somewhere showed that Japan isnt much more fucked up in that regard than America is, but America abuses the hell out of salaried workers so that isnt really an accomplishment.It's accurate in Japan. High school is when you can be an individual but after that ya gotta become a cog in the machine and get 4 hours of sleep. Japan's work environment is fucked up.
I'd say it's half way between young and old. 40 is old as fuck though.
I'd say it's half way between young and old. 40 is old as fuck though.
I'm 40. FML
Bearded Noctis is my #1 pick for the hottest male protagonist of any videogame I've ever played, and I'm straight but I call it like I see it. He looked fiiiiine!Definitely, it was an absolute breath of fresh air, because not only did he have a shitty summerstache after the skip, it wasn't even shitty. He was straight Rocking what he had, and it was an awesome physical metaphor for his maturity as a character at that point. You'll NEVER see that in stuff again, Man!
I can't even remember the last shirtless man in a video game with even Mild chest hair either, like are we supposed to expect none of these guys are old enough for a little fuzz anywhere? Not even on the freaking arms?! Like, what's up with these magic hairless people in their magical hairless dimensions?! No I am not joking!
IIRC a study somewhere showed that Japan isnt much more fucked up in that regard than America is, but America abuses the hell out of salaried workers so that isnt really an accomplishment.
In medieval times, your 30s probably was pretty old. Maybe they're doing it for suspension of disbelief?
How the fuck is Balthier 22, he looks like he went through a life and a half
The fucking teacher? 18? SE, HOW?quistis trepe is 18! oldest looking teenager in the history of forever
I knew she was 18 but it's super weird too. Quistis is a massive creep tooquistis trepe is 18! oldest looking teenager in the history of forever
Omg I completely blocked that. Wasn't she a teacher to a bunch of 17 year olds? Age in anime means for shit.quistis trepe is 18! oldest looking teenager in the history of forever
And a certified instructor at a military high school teaching students her own agequistis trepe is 18! oldest looking teenager in the history of forever
I was gonna mention this. RavenThere are actually story reasons for Raven but I generally agree with you op
If true, are you obese? I know that's tongue in cheek but I hope it's not srs
Yeah, only if you have a rich dad because you have to go to college before that if you don't want to work part time in a convenience store forever
I stand corrected.No, it wasn't. The low life expectancy was due to infant and childhood mortality, which pulls down the average. If you survived adolescence you had a fine chance of living to your 50s or 60s, unless you were a woman who gave birth, which was pretty risky. Point is, people over 30 were not unusual in medieval times.
Haha, I had the same reaction when I first found out.
When they look like this at 13it's not surprising, this have been a thing in anime and games since forever.
Yeah, I remember than even when I was kid, the characters in Saint Seiya looked waaaaay older than they supposedly were. Most of them look like they are in their mid-twenties when they're supposed to be young teenagers.
These dudes will never be any younger than 18 to me.When they look like this at 13it's not surprising, this have been a thing in anime and games since forever.
To be fair Seiya was drawn with larger eyes at the start of the manga that did make him look younger.When they look like this at 13it's not surprising, this have been a thing in anime and games since forever.
TBH I thought I was an old man when I turned 20 (I'm not a teen anymore!). Happens every decade lol.I'd say it's half way between young and old. 40 is old as fuck though.
I'm 40. FML
This is stupid, most Navy SEALs are late 30's / 40sYou are being over sensitive.
To a teenager someone in their 30 's is ancient.
35-you are midway old and you will be past your physical peak - look at when pro sportsmen retire.
Yeah Torna's protagonist owns.Just pretend that in JRPGs it really is like medieval times and you're probably a grandparent by the time you hit 40
Edit: Having just played XC2 Torna expansion it was nice to see that Lora (the main character) was 27 and that the other characters were surprised as she looked younger. No jokes about being old, just complimented for looking so youthful. Was a nice change. No idea how old Addam is in the game but probably late 20s/early 30s. Again not presented as old just as normal.
While I will concede the likes of Spiderman, Batman, Superman, etc. are Western creations, Superheros (the big ones) in general are popular worldwide. Japanese developers, especially if they aim for an international audience, aren't going to be automatically shooting themselves in the foot if they feature older protags.
If you want to use shonen more specifically, Dragon Ball Z (and newer) features almost an entirely adult cast. For a more modern example, One Punch Man took off like a rocket and its cast is basically all adults. These are the minority of casts but I'm just trying to demonstrate it can be done and succeed. This isn't some impossible task :P
Can't think of any older playable ladies off the top of my head though? Lulu in FFX is relatively 'mature', but she's... 24.