If the guy hadn't lost he would have won. You sound like many Boxing and MMA fans I know.
Bruh he literally had Jorah on the ground disarmed. He was literally making the killing strike before he got robbed.If the guy hadn't lost he would have won. You sound like many Boxing and MMA fans I know.
You mean the one time she tried to stab the hound and did nothing. Brienne was fully armored, swords are historically been useless weapons versus plate. Steel swords were not very durable they would easily break clashing or hitting armor. The fact that Arya was using a short sword like Needle, that sword would not last long versus a knight.Except that we saw her practice one on one fighting multiple times? You don't think that any of that carries over? She learned to sense attacks coming without the need to even open her eyes becasue of her training.
Arya has mastered the Braavosi way of sword fighting, which is the same Syrio Forell used in S01. It's swift and precise when compared to the hack-and-slash style of Westerns. Arya besting Brienne just mirrors Syrio defeating all those Lannister soldiers just with a wooden sword. Syrio was also much smaller and he used it ib his favour. It's how the Braavosi fight.
Bruh he literally had Jorah on the ground disarmed. He was literally making the killing strike before he got robbed.
Of course it is. A famous assassin that has been training for decades in fighting and assassination techniques is fighting a brute that is known to be an OK swordsman with incredible strength.
On the other hand we have a girl that went through her martial arts summer camp and came out as good as Brienne.
You mean the one time she tried to stab the hound and did nothing. Brienne was fully armored, swords are historically been useless weapons versus plate. Steel swords were not very durable they would easily break clashing or hitting armor. The fact that Arya was using a short sword like Needle, that sword would not last long versus a knight.
Corner a dog in a dead-end street and it will turn and biteI don't even understand how she beat the Waif half alive let alone what she did during that Brianne scene.
Jorah lost his fight against the Braavosi. The Braavosi was killed by someone else, giving Jorah time to stand up.You win or you lose. There is no middle ground. Jorah won, therefore, Westeros are the best fighters. There is no gap in my logic.
I don't even understand how she beat the Waif half alive let alone what she did during that Brianne scene. The Waif would have had access to the same training as Arya, and would have been doing it a lot longer. The blind fighting and all that she would have also been taught. So when Arya cuts out the light, shouldn't the Waif have just tossed her head back and laughed? She too should know how to fight in the dark, and against an opponent that's bleeding out and struggling, it should have been an easy dispatch.
Yet an injured Arya still comes out on top. It just seems to me that it's unearned. The end of her last scene in Braavos is also ridiculous as hell.
"Now you are no one!"
He then lets her take a goodie bag for the road. Sure sounds like the way a secret organisation of assassins operates.
No I mean the scenes in which she had to dodge attacks while being blinded while being trained by world class assassins. The armor is just a crutch that slows the fighter down. Speed is more important than anything. We learned that way back in season 1.
Why are so many people saying there was a "quick upgrade", or "she trained for a few months"? You do understand that the show timeline has covered a number of years, right? The whole thing about their world is that seasons last years, and then take years to transition. She has been training and practicing for years.
Corner a dog in a dead-end street and it will turn and bite
Jorah lost his fight against the Braavosi. The Braavosi was killed by someone else, giving Jorah time to stand up.
Spoken like someone that has probably fought zero hours in his life.
LOL. Sure, except that Arya leaves Westeros at a really well defined point and returns to Westeros at another. We know how long it has taken, its something like 12-18 months at the most.
Is this any different than Oberyn almost defeating The Mountain?
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Also the actress portraying Arya is listed as 5'1.
I thought that scene made it pretty clear he was training her all along for her intended mission. He even gives a smile and a look of approval when she declares that she's not "no one", that she's Arya Stark. That's the look of a teacher pleased that his student finally learned their lessonI don't even understand how she beat the Waif half alive let alone what she did during that Brianne scene. The Waif would have had access to the same training as Arya, and would have been doing it a lot longer. The blind fighting and all that she would have also been taught. So when Arya cuts out the light, shouldn't the Waif have just tossed her head back and laughed? She too should know how to fight in the dark, and against an opponent that's bleeding out and struggling, it should have been an easy dispatch.
Yet an injured Arya still comes out on top. It just seems to me that it's unearned. The end of her last scene in Braavos is also ridiculous as hell.
"Now you are no one!"
He then lets her take a goodie bag for the road. Sure sounds like the way a secret organisation of assassins operates.
I hope whenever GRR comes out with the books, he does everything completely opposite to the DD writing, just to piss them off.
This is not an anime, GRRM wanted the series to accurately portrayed the middle ages with some fantasy elements. Knights were the dominant fighting force due to plate armor nullifying most bladed weapons.No I mean the scenes in which she had to dodge attacks while being blinded while being trained by world class assassins. The armor is just a crutch that slows the fighter down. Speed is more important than anything. We learned that way back in season 1.
So, my bad, only an MLB slugger swinging a baseball bat smashing on me holding a golf club then? I'm exaggerating, but let's not pretend Arya trying to guard against a swing doesn't end with Arya in a crumpled heap or a broken arm rather than a nimble troll.
she put her level-up points into speed rather than strength and it paid off
I recall watching Arya getting repeatedly smacked in the face with a wooden pole over and over during her entire stay in Bravo's until- BOOM, she's suddenly the best invisible, waterfighting ninja assassin there has ever been. I don't remember seeing her actually improve though.
I wasn't aware that you are a real sword fighter?! If so please tell us! Becasue I'm going off what the show has told us about fighting.
She trained with magic assassins. Why is Arya getting the better of someone who wasn't taking the fight seriously until the end suddenly too far? Its fine. Arya is a prodigy who uses her size/speed/foreign fighting technique to get the better of her classically trained opponents.
I thought that scene made it pretty clear he was training her all along for her intended mission. He even gives a smile and a look of approval when she declares that she's not "no one", that she's Arya Stark. That's the look of a teacher pleased that his student finally learned their lesson
I'm sorry was every fighter there supposed to represent a fighting style with no nuance? That's not how a free for all between a bunch of half starved dirty men work.It was a free for all. Jorah was the last man standing. Jorah won, all hail Westeros knights.
Waterdancers are absolutely expert swordsmen. With a wooden sword Syrio was able to do this:Because those expert assassins aren't expert swordsman. They're expert assassins because of their intrigue skills not because they're all Barristan Selmys.
Besides we never see Arya train with a sword with them.
Also consider that Brienne trained all her life to be a swordsman and she ties with a little girl that's been training to be a swordsman for a year or two.
This is not an anime, GRRM wanted the series to accurately portrayed the middle ages with some fantasy elements. Knights were the dominant fighting force due to plate armor nullifying most bladed weapons.
Because those expert assassins aren't expert swordsman. They're expert assassins because of their intrigue skills not because they're all Barristan Selmys.
Besides we never see Arya train with a sword with them.
Also consider that Brienne trained all her life to be a swordsman and she ties with a little girl that's been training to be a swordsman for a year or two.
And was super speed one of those establish fantasy elements?"Some fantasy elements" meanwhile we have demon shadow babies, people being resurrected, dragons, lady Stoneheart, zombies, magic face swapping assassins etc.
Don't try to pretend like a girl being quicker than a full grown solider is some sort of stretch.
Why are so many people saying there was a "quick upgrade", or "she trained for a few months"? You do understand that the show timeline has covered a number of years, right? The whole thing about their world is that seasons last years, and then take years to transition. She has been training and practicing for years.
Her mission of vengeance. Rejecting the Faceless Men, killing the Waif, and remaining herself was the test. Hence his dialogue there, his look of approval and nod of respect when she declares that she is Arya, and Arya having magical assassin gear when we see her next
First of all yes considering how fast that demon baby was able to get to it's target. Second of all, how does Arya have super speed when she's not moving faster than the individuals in those gifs above.
"Some fantasy elements" meanwhile we have demon shadow babies, people being resurrected, dragons, lady Stoneheart, zombies, magic face swapping assassins etc.
Don't try to pretend like a girl being quicker than a full grown solider is some sort of stretch.
Yeah but if I want to I can pretend Dorne never ever happened, and I can look forward to next season of not being reminded about anything related to Dorne as to give me flashbacks about that storyline. I can't do that with Arya. I fully expect her to do some fuckery on the White Walkers because what else is her powers useful for in that fight? Being a faceless assassin isn't exactly what I would call a useful skill set against zombies and ice sorcerers. So is she going to be levelled up again to deal with this threat?Everything Dorne is waaay worse. At some point they let some really dumb people write the show, it seems.
If the guy hadn't lost he would have won. You sound like many Boxing and MMA fans I know.
But why? I don't recall, but did Arya even tell Jaquen anything in relation to what happened to her dad prior to him given her the coin and telling her to find him in Braavos?Her mission of vengeance. Rejecting the Faceless Men, killing the Waif, and remaining herself was the test. Hence his dialogue there, his look of approval and nod of respect when she declares that she is Arya, and Arya having magical assassin gear when we see her next
Letting someone take magical assassin gear isn't the act of a person who you left on bad terms
Remember they had an entire arc where she "saved his life" and he promised to kill three men.But why? I don't recall, but did Arya even tell Jaquen anything in relation to what happened to her dad prior to him given her the coin and telling her to find him in Braavos?
Because those expert assassins aren't expert swordsman. They're expert assassins because of their intrigue skills not because they're all Barristan Selmys.
Besides we never see Arya train with a sword with them.
Also consider that Brienne trained all her life to be a swordsman and she ties with a little girl that's been training to be a swordsman for a year or two.
Yeah, and she got her three men (the torturer, the guy that was going to rat her out, and the guards at the end). But I don't recall her telling him her life story. So why would he be interested from that moment to train her for a mission in which she learns everything from him, not join his guild, and to go back home to get revenge?Remember they had an entire arc where she "saved his life" and he promised to kill three men.
That's it guys, I watched the entirety of this year's world cup which means I'm a pro football player now! I'm going to sign up to join Real Madrid, wish me luck.Arya grew up watching Ned, Rob and Jon train. Jon gave her notes