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Is Santa just Indoctrination into Organised Religion?
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But they don't grow out of God.
So there might be something in Santa being effective in priming a child to believe in a diety
Santa's pretty harmless in the grand scheme of things. Consumerism would still be rampant without him and I don't think he causes people to be more religious.
Believing in magic is what religion is.
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What? No, it absolutely doesn't have to be. I was raised agnostic and Santa to me as a kid was just, in hindsight, a figurehead of gifts that served as something to behave well for. It can be used as something that's about being good vs. bad, not some religious bullshit.
I imagine many of the people here as some edgy teenager sat in the corner of a family Christmas party as the younger siblings open their gifts, "Santa is just indoctrination into organised religion! I will eat in my room."
Oh my gawd Santa is just fun for the kids.
If some of you dweebs wanna put those over analyzing brains to work, then try this: Tinkerbell can only exist so long as she's believed in. Santa only exists so long as long as he's believed in. Therefore Santa is a fairy.
If some of you dweebs wanna put those over analyzing brains to work, then try this: Tinkerbell can only exist so long as she's believed in. Santa only exists so long as long as he's believed in. Therefore Santa is a fairy.
Priming them? They already are indoctrinated if they live in a religious family, these things exist separately. And like I said, you are meant to grow out of believing in Santa and that's a pretty ineffective form of indoctrination for religion if you're meant to stop believing it.
I believe the expression is, 'The door is that way.' It's not like the thread title was misleading. Maybe if you don't like spending time in these types of thread, then don't come into them. Seems like ya'll would be way happier that way especially since I see at least one of you post this type of crap in multiple threads.
Anyway, as far as the OP. I somewhat see what you mean, but I think it's a stretch. I could see how maybe someone manipulative could use it that way, but I actually found growing up around a lot of religious people they actually don't like the Santa Claus myth since they think it doesn't jive with God being end all, be all. My Grandma would actually get mad at people talking about Santa doing stuff for Christmas because people weren't focusing on Jesus or what have you
Is hard not to be a little paranoid when growing up everyone around you tells you your are going to go to hell and other awful things.
There's an anthropological position that the actual story of Santa is about siberian shaman who use to bring gifts and that the whole presents under the tree thing was actually a reference to the red and white capped amanita muscaria psychedelic mushrooms found under birch trees which can legit be seen in early Christmas references.
The whole story is pretty fascinating.
Tldr. Your teaching your kids to do shrooms. We need more Santa.😁
The whole story is pretty fascinating.
Tldr. Your teaching your kids to do shrooms. We need more Santa.😁
Nothing personal, but I can't help but laugh when I read things like that.
So finding that Santa wasn't real irrevocably damaged your trust in your parents?
I can only imagine what kind of kid you were growing up and frankly what kind of parent you are/going to be.
In Austria it's literally the "child of Christ" that is bringing the presents and religious people are in decline and have been for years.
So I'm gonna say, no
So I'm gonna say, no
Religious people don't need Santa to prep the way for introducing Jesus. They just... teach their kids to believe in Jesus.
imagine holding this OP up as an examplar of good critical thinking
Terry Pratchett had a somewhat nonsensical juxtaposition in that he was a very pragmatic fantasy writer. Probably my favorite author as well.
I'm pretty sure it's just an excuse to get your kids to behave for gifts/no gifts.
Era: the place where everybody acts like their shit don't stink.
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Era: the place where everybody acts like their shit don't stink.
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Not forever, but I was pretty mad at them for a couple days. I figured that if they lied to me about something as big as Santa, then what else could they be hiding? That one kid in my first grade class was right, Santa is fake.
The thread title's an open question to the community that browses these forums. You don't make a thread with a premise like this if you aren't ready to get some opinions that aren't in line with your own. I'm sure OP can handle it. No need to tone police the responses...
oh absolutely. I just always found the line of thinking itself to be a good one to keep in mind when considering this sort of thing.
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Santa gives gifts in exchange for good behaviour. Don't need to buy anything. Christmas on the other hand....
"Is having a good dinner and fun on Christmas eve immoral? Let's discuss ERA, btw if you say yes then fuck you, you're a Republican".
Im not raising my children to be religious.. Santa adds to the fun of a holiday like the easter bunny or ghosts at halloween. He is not being used as a tool to discipline them, thats where I come in as a parent. He just used magic to get this giant ass Frozen castle through the chimney. The look on her face this morning was awesome. "SANTA BROUGHT ME A GIFT!!!" lol.I mean the media she consumes has santa, other friends have santa in their lives. Shes 3. Much like ghosts are explained later as make believe, that day will come for santa. She still thoroughly enjoys monsters and warewolves, but she knows they are pretend.
Just as an alternative take, You don't have to go full santa worship. To your point, the invisible man judging you is weird. I told her if she didn't clean up her room, she isn't getting gifts via me.
Just as an alternative take, You don't have to go full santa worship. To your point, the invisible man judging you is weird. I told her if she didn't clean up her room, she isn't getting gifts via me.
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