Is Konami on track for making a comeback?
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Not at all. Considering Capcom had to release the likes of RE2, Mon Hun World, and DMC5 to be considered "back".
Konami has a long way to go and it entails more than just some collections.
Konami has a long way to go and it entails more than just some collections.
They do, that staff is just working on mobile, amusement and slot for the most part.
I said properly. Yes, they have significant mobile stuff but for HD, AA/AAA stuff they're severely undermanned/underpowered.
They're not though, they have more staff than Capcom even.
I saw quite a few Konami folks at GDC, wouldn't be surprised if they still want to do AAA's. I also know most of the Fox engine team has scattered so I dunno
The bare minimum would be licensing series like Castlevania and Silent Hill. Then they make money and had to do next to nothing to get it.
And they can't even be bothered to do that
So no. They aren't "coming back" they are still digging the hole.
And they can't even be bothered to do that
So no. They aren't "coming back" they are still digging the hole.
Switch support has been okay so far considering i had low expectations:
- Super Bomberman R - first new third party game timed exclusive at launch.
- Powerpro Baseball announced recently (japan only for now)
- the Retro collections for Castlevania and Contra
- Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy of the Duelist: Link Evolution exclusive coming this summer
- Hyper Sports R (the classic shovelware party game)
I'll check that Yu-Gi-Oh game if it is good, but i hope they'll bring something really good eventually (like considering the JRPG audience, i wouldn't mind a new Suikoden)
They never released it in Europe, and yes you can download the apk but they keep updating it and to do that you need the Play Store version, so you have to uninstall the current app and find the new apk without carrying over your save files (i did it twice then i deleted the app)
But yes it's not all trash pachinko Konami, i thought Super Bomberman R was a nice revival a bit too criticized by the press because of Konami's status, i'm happy the game ended up being fairly successful.
- Super Bomberman R - first new third party game timed exclusive at launch.
- Powerpro Baseball announced recently (japan only for now)
- the Retro collections for Castlevania and Contra
- Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy of the Duelist: Link Evolution exclusive coming this summer
- Hyper Sports R (the classic shovelware party game)
I'll check that Yu-Gi-Oh game if it is good, but i hope they'll bring something really good eventually (like considering the JRPG audience, i wouldn't mind a new Suikoden)
They never released it in Europe, and yes you can download the apk but they keep updating it and to do that you need the Play Store version, so you have to uninstall the current app and find the new apk without carrying over your save files (i did it twice then i deleted the app)
But yes it's not all trash pachinko Konami, i thought Super Bomberman R was a nice revival a bit too criticized by the press because of Konami's status, i'm happy the game ended up being fairly successful.
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...where're Konami's AA/AAA stuff then? Capcom is able to handle big guns such RE7, RE2, DMC5 and MHW. Last time Konami made something of this same caliber was MGSV and the studio is no more.
What Konami has done this gen so far is consisted mostly by ports, collections, remakes or low budget efforts (such as Super Bomberman R).
Just because they aren't producing AA / AAA console games doesn't mean they are incapable of doing so. Their priorities are now completely different.
Case in point their Slot Machine (Not pachinko, but Las Vegas and Atlantic City Casinos) business makes billions of dollars every year.
Yet Capcom's ENTIRE operating revenue just barely exceeds 1.1 Billion for the company as a whole.
Konami has enough money to fund development for AA / AAA console games, they just decide not to because their Casino and Slot Machine business is exponentially much more profitable.
As I said on the first page of this thread, Within the gaming bubble, Konami is apparently a barely functioning company that is doing the bare minimum to just keep the lights on, whatever that is supposed to mean. Konami's business is outside of this bubble, so these things may not seem relevant for those are purely interested in just console gaming. Their yearly fiscal reports tell a very different reality on whatever notion the gaming bubble wants to believe on how well Konami is doing as a business.
The majority of posts in this thread aren't saying Konami is unprofitable. They're saying Konami does not, will not, and at this point, probably can not make the sort of video games that interest anyone on this board. They have been making a movement towards irrelevancy in our particular sphere for years.
Yeah, Konami are making a lot of money on gyms and slot machines. That's not the question the OP is asking, nor is it one particularly interesting to most people here.
give me the MGS collection on my switch and then we will talk
and will proceed to say fuck konami shortly after
No. Most of Konami's success is in the sports arena and with pachinko (and other similar forms of entertainment). For them to make a Capcom level comeback would require them to shift their focus towards core titles people want to see.
Konami is certainly profitable and what they do generates profit and revenue, but there's a difference between being profitable and being relevant. The latter is something Konami has lost over the years as their focus has shifted.
Konami is certainly profitable and what they do generates profit and revenue, but there's a difference between being profitable and being relevant. The latter is something Konami has lost over the years as their focus has shifted.
The only way Konami is coming back aside from PES is downloadable games and mobile.
I do think their emphasis on multiple Castlevania collections means they're planning a new game aside from Grimoire of Souls. I do not believe it will be a 3D, physically released game, though.
I do think their emphasis on multiple Castlevania collections means they're planning a new game aside from Grimoire of Souls. I do not believe it will be a 3D, physically released game, though.
They can't have the developers anymore because they haven't done shit this gen really. Unless there is a bunch of Devs just sitting around being paid to do nothing.
Edit, I guess they are working on amusements or something according to the above? Eh still think they won't have kept the talent that wanted to be actual game devs
Edit, I guess they are working on amusements or something according to the above? Eh still think they won't have kept the talent that wanted to be actual game devs
I don't think collections of old games qualifies as making a comeback
I hope they never touch Silent Hill 2
I hope they never touch Silent Hill 2
I mean, the whole reason why they got out of the console games industry is because they're not happy with the earnings.
Right now they're making more money than Capcom.
Right now they're making more money than Capcom.
Literally a year ago, but arcades are "dead" in the west so I guess it doesn't count.
Lmao no, they aren't. Konami focus on gaming is on mobile. Forget them, they won't go back to AAA investment even if they have the money to do when they can get much more money in mobile with fewer investment in comparison. Konami is dead for this outside of PES which is their only AAA and other minor games.
The majority of what you said isn't baffling at all. And Pachinko have nothing to do with Konami Gaming division. The only wrong thing is the staff treatment.
Wrong, Konami gaming division continues to work but their focus is on mobile. Just because it's not console the focus, don't mean that they stopped. They even have the resources but they, like you rightfully says, changed the focus to where they would get better.
And yeah, I agree with you. I see nothing wrong with what they did, except treatment of employees. Changing the focus of your gaming division to mobile (no, not pachinko, those were always the focus in Amusement) isn't some crime or even wrong, they just did it because they saw that it was better.
Completely wrong. The division with more profit and revenue is Digital Entertainment which have console and mobile game. Look at their financial results and you all see the superiority of it in comparison to the others. Besides, a company not being relevant in console don't mean they are irrelevant on their other ventures, including mobile. Because you know, there's more than console in the world, including a certain market called mobile which is fairly bigger than it.
I'll post an older part from last year as I don't have a newer but it'll be largely the same
The majority of what you said isn't baffling at all. And Pachinko have nothing to do with Konami Gaming division. The only wrong thing is the staff treatment.
Wrong, Konami gaming division continues to work but their focus is on mobile. Just because it's not console the focus, don't mean that they stopped. They even have the resources but they, like you rightfully says, changed the focus to where they would get better.
And yeah, I agree with you. I see nothing wrong with what they did, except treatment of employees. Changing the focus of your gaming division to mobile (no, not pachinko, those were always the focus in Amusement) isn't some crime or even wrong, they just did it because they saw that it was better.
Completely wrong. The division with more profit and revenue is Digital Entertainment which have console and mobile game. Look at their financial results and you all see the superiority of it in comparison to the others. Besides, a company not being relevant in console don't mean they are irrelevant on their other ventures, including mobile. Because you know, there's more than console in the world, including a certain market called mobile which is fairly bigger than it.
I'll post an older part from last year as I don't have a newer but it'll be largely the same
Even ignoring the kojima crap. Hearing how petty and vindictive the company is they can fuck off forever.
I believe that Konami has all the tools to make a comeback, sure. But I don't think they've done anything to warrant thinking that they're going to. It's sad...I'd have loved to get a new Castlevania that was more similar to the past games tonally, or to have gotten that Zone of the Enders game that got cancelled. But I've come to terms with the fact that I won't, and if they did nothing more than re-release their past hits I'm okay with that. As shitty of a company as Konami is and has been, their past good games will always be welcome.
IN FACT, I think I'm gonna go play Rondo of Blood.
IN FACT, I think I'm gonna go play Rondo of Blood.
I wouldn't call releasing ports of old games "trying to make a comeback," especially considering Requiem was extremely bare-bones and kind of half-assed.
They probably have to release the occasional game or two to legally keep calling themselves a game company, and they're just doing the bare minimum.
They probably have to release the occasional game or two to legally keep calling themselves a game company, and they're just doing the bare minimum.
Release MGS Remakes
Remake Silent Hill 1, 2 and 3
Remaster PES 6 and add it as a classic title with online capability, updated squads and kits.
Announce new entries for Suikoden, Contra, Silent Hill and a Metal Gear Solid based on the Cobra Unit.
Then and only then would they be back on the road to redemption.
Remake Silent Hill 1, 2 and 3
Remaster PES 6 and add it as a classic title with online capability, updated squads and kits.
Announce new entries for Suikoden, Contra, Silent Hill and a Metal Gear Solid based on the Cobra Unit.
Then and only then would they be back on the road to redemption.
It is not they are not capable to do so but their other products are able to generate more money than their gaming product. If i were konami, i would even leave gaming alone and pursue where the money was
Konami ain't even close to being on track for a comeback. I need to see more positive signs beyond re-releasing some of their classic catalogs.
Maybe a streak of E3/Stage appearances with dope reveals ex Capcom. Or their developers tweeting or interviewed about their excitement on a secret Konami project. Yet, so far there just hasn't been enough for to me feel that Konami is even invested or interested in making any AAA games for the foreseeable future.
Maybe a streak of E3/Stage appearances with dope reveals ex Capcom. Or their developers tweeting or interviewed about their excitement on a secret Konami project. Yet, so far there just hasn't been enough for to me feel that Konami is even invested or interested in making any AAA games for the foreseeable future.
While I appreciate them putting out collections of their classic games (the various ones that were recently announced), it just seems like they're trying to live from past glories with no intention to put out anything new. So no, it's not a comeback until we get a new and proper game in one of their beloved franchises.
I wish, but Konami would have to actually be interested in making games in order for them to have a comeback. Konami has a heavy list of fantastic IP's that they're just sitting on and not using like Smaug from The Hobbit.
Outside of re-releases and ports, I think they're pretty much done(Video game wise). I'd be surprised if otherwise.