Is Jameis Winston one of the best quarterbacks in NFL history?
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I'll be honest I don't know why the market for Winston wasn't bigger than it was this offseason. He was about as good as you could possibly be while being a turnover machine. Turnovers are a statistic with huge variation year to year but in regards to his actual production it was good.
Legitimately hes the best backup QB in the league right now. I feel like a bunch of teams didn't bother showing any interest because he would have been better than their starting QB, like the Jets for instance.
Legitimately hes the best backup QB in the league right now. I feel like a bunch of teams didn't bother showing any interest because he would have been better than their starting QB, like the Jets for instance.
He is one of the best QBs to ever play the game in the sense of everyone who has ever played football at any level including back yard father and son catch games. He made it to the professionals and that made him one of the best. But in the sense of best of the people who are able to do it professionally - hell no.
Dude threw 40 touchdowns last season, more than Lamar Jackson. Unfortunately seven of them were thrown to the other team, but still.
Nobody in NFL history has thrown 33 touchdowns, with 30 interceptions and 7 pick sixes. And I highly doubt anybody ever will again (since they'd be pulled).
He did lead the league in passing, good for 9th on the all time list. But again 30 interceptions. Name me another qb that can throw 30 interceptions and still start every game. We haven't seen that kind of performance since another Tampa Bay great Vinny Testaverde somehow threw 35 in '88. Jameis was probably gunning for him but Evans and Godwin probably caught a few too many poorly thrown balls.
It came down to the wire, too, it was the last play of the last game of overtime where he threw his record setting seventh pick six to end their season. Some may call it shameless stat padding but a record is a record.
Nobody in NFL history has thrown 33 touchdowns, with 30 interceptions and 7 pick sixes. And I highly doubt anybody ever will again (since they'd be pulled).
He did lead the league in passing, good for 9th on the all time list. But again 30 interceptions. Name me another qb that can throw 30 interceptions and still start every game. We haven't seen that kind of performance since another Tampa Bay great Vinny Testaverde somehow threw 35 in '88. Jameis was probably gunning for him but Evans and Godwin probably caught a few too many poorly thrown balls.
It came down to the wire, too, it was the last play of the last game of overtime where he threw his record setting seventh pick six to end their season. Some may call it shameless stat padding but a record is a record.
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His yardage and touchdowns are worthless. The amount of turnovers he commits is awful for his own defense. You can't keep them on the field that often...it'll never work.
And that defense would quit on him just like Trubisky.
EDIT- Am I reading that stat right...he threw 30 interceptions and had another potential 23 dropped?
Neither he nor Mariota were worth taking with the first two picks in the draft. He's bargain bin Brett Favre.
He isn't even in the Top 20 best QB playing right now. Who does this moron think he is fooling? lol
Complete confidence in himself is kind of his shtick.
He dressed for a game that he was suspended from, expecting to play I guess? Jimbo had to kick him off the field.
He dressed for a game that he was suspended from, expecting to play I guess? Jimbo had to kick him off the field.
Member when Jameis lost the last game of the season in OT on a pick six?
It's Jameis. The knock on him is always been that he is turnover prone. The chickens just came home to roost last year.
It's Jameis. The knock on him is always been that he is turnover prone. The chickens just came home to roost last year.
Maybe? I think he just reverts to his career average if he plays this year and still puts up the same positive production hes put up.
He'll probably play some too this year cause Brees looked really washed towards the end of last season.
Brady did too. Turns out HOF QBs get old too.
What thread are you even reading. Everybody seems to be dunking on him.
"think he's good", "just needs more structure", etc.
The correct take is "fuck this motherfucker"
16 games, 6-10-0 record, 343 completions on 547 passes (62.7%) for 4131 yards, 26 touchdowns, 23 interceptions and 6 pick 6s
16 games, 7-9-0 record, 380 completions on 626 passes (60.7%) for 5109 yards, 33 touchdowns, 30 interceptions and 7 pick 6s
Peyton Manning at 25 years old compared to Jameis Winston at 25 years old.
As someone that owned him in fantasy, he would often throw a couple interceptions, do nothing for a whole half, inexplicably not get benched and then throw amazing garbage time stats to Evans and Godwin. I don't really know how you can throw in a turnover machine like him as a backup QB, though... Brees has to be constantly ready to go back in to stop the bleeding.
16 games, 7-9-0 record, 380 completions on 626 passes (60.7%) for 5109 yards, 33 touchdowns, 30 interceptions and 7 pick 6s
Peyton Manning at 25 years old compared to Jameis Winston at 25 years old.
As someone that owned him in fantasy, he would often throw a couple interceptions, do nothing for a whole half, inexplicably not get benched and then throw amazing garbage time stats to Evans and Godwin. I don't really know how you can throw in a turnover machine like him as a backup QB, though... Brees has to be constantly ready to go back in to stop the bleeding.
Most teams don't have the weapons he had to throw to, though. That's basically why Brady went there after all.
Darnold has his own turnover issues, but he had possibly the worst offensive supporting cast...and still looked better than Mayfield and most other young guys last year. If he can play more consistently like he has for the 2nd half of the past two seasons he'll be great.
What a perfect scouting report for him coming into the NFL.
Jameis Winsyon is god tier QB, and the Saints should sign him to back up Brees instead of that other fellow, what's his face.
