Thats how I interpreted it. Cory Balrog really resents his mother.
You should feel ashamed to have posted this. What the hell is the matter with you?
Thats how I interpreted it. Cory Balrog really resents his mother.
You make this sound more personal than tied to the game.It seems like this really sexist metaphor for an overbearing mother who tries to control her child. It's like a fable about how moms should back off and let their sons be men. Like uh how about letting go of your mommy issues and taking responsibility for your own life..
Thats how I interpreted it. Cory Balrog really resents his mother.
During the course of the game, when does Faye have the ability to act or make choices?
Exactly, after finishing the game, you will learn that Faye actually planned everything, even her death was part of her plan, makes you think if she really loved Kratos or just using him to fulfil her goals.Did you not get that she'd basically already gone through the game with her ability to see into the future? She sets everything in motion, knowing directly where it would lead to. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if her own death was also planned by her to have the most impact to get the ball rolling, so to speak(do we even find out how she died before the game started?).
Before we've even started controlling Kratos, she:
1) Used her own death as the trigger for the outside world invading to light a fire under Kratos and put him at odds with their gods
2) Told Kratos where she wants her ashes to be brought to, both at first leading her right into Mimir who further puts him at odds against the gods, and then to where the real goal was, getting Atreus to see all that she did/to understand what had to happen going forward
3) either placed the markers all along where they have to travel to go where she wants them to(either before the game starts or somehow during the game and watching over them)
For god's sakes, she may as well be holding the controller(not the player) and guiding Kratos's every actions. :p
Myeah there are plenty of more interesting ways to show the power of the valkyries than beating the crap out of them to save them from corruption. And I certainly hope Freya don't just end up like a crazyhead Kratos must knock some sense into before she starts acting normal again.Valkyries, for the almighty warriors they are, effectively end up being damsels in distress. I wouldn't necessarily call it a problem given the context, but they're definitely not good characters.
i didn't write the story where dead mothers are heros and the ones who protect their kids are unstable harpies waiting to snap.You should feel ashamed to have posted this. What the hell is the matter with you?
Well I find the existence of this game "problematic". It's a male power fantasy, and just looking at the cover makes me tired. I find it funny that there needs to be a discussion about whether details in the story are "problematic" when the whole game is emblematic of most things that are wrong with this industry.
Well I find the existence of this game "problematic". It's a male power fantasy, and just looking at the cover makes me tired. I find it funny that there needs to be a discussion about whether details in the story are "problematic" when the whole game is emblematic of most things that are wrong with this industry.
Kratos taking revenge for his innocent wife and child aren't the same as Freya losing her shit over Bader, who's trying to kill her.
i didn't write the story where dead mothers are heros and the ones who protect their kids are unstable harpies waiting to snap.
I didn't write the story where dead mothers are heros and the ones who protect their kids are unstable harpies waiting to snap.
He isn't killing them. If you pay attention they were trapped in a physical form which corrupted them and drove them insane. Their natural form was the spirit form you see rise from the bodies after you free them.You can write anything you want into the story, but that doesn't absolve it. Look at Quiet from MGSV. There's a story reason why she dresses like that and nobody found that acceptable. Take the words away and you see Kratos hunting the only 8 women in the game down (apart from Freya) killing them, ripping their wings off, and then they thank him for it
Yup, just do badass stuff, be all cool and shit without nuance.It seems like it has to be bad ass perfect female characters to be considered good representation.
Um at the end she says she's going to do everything in her power to kill you as I recall
Oh no Cory actually loves his mother and she loves him how problematic of them.
I know. This game, one of the few that is legitimately flawless, has a lot of nuance in its story that apparently is going over the heads of a lot of people.
Thats how I interpreted it. Cory Balrog really resents his mother.
Thats how I interpreted it. Cory Balrog really resents his mother.
She turns into a villain at the end of the game.... You fight her just like Gaia in GoW3.
No game is flawless, that includes GoW. From the top of my head exploring (especially post-game) could be sped up, they definitely need a better selection of story bosses in the next game (they kinda missed a beat by not making the 1st Valkyrie fight a story boss IMO) and the side-quests, while lore heavy, could use some more meat and variety to them.I know. This game, one of the few that is legitimately flawless, has a lot of nuance in its story that apparently is going over the heads of a lot of people.
This site can be such a joke sometimes.
Well I find the existence of this game "problematic". It's a male power fantasy, and just looking at the cover makes me tired. I find it funny that there needs to be a discussion about whether details in the story are "problematic" when the whole game is emblematic of most things that are wrong with this industry.
Yeah its really sad that a game that actually celebrates women is shit on for the opposite because people cant get any nuance and only see the books by its covers.I know. This game, one of the few that is legitimately flawless, has a lot of nuance in its story that apparently is going over the heads of a lot of people.
It doesn't seem like she's going to "get over it" tbh. Seems more like a super villain origin story. A justification for a sequel where Kratos kills her off in some appropriately gruesome way.Ooooh. And why would that be? Could that be, because she just saw us snapping his sons neck and killing him?
That is humane reaction. That doesn't make her villain. Mimir even points this out when Atreus asks why she is mad for us, we saved her so Mimir tells him that we just killed her son and we need to give her time and she will come around it.
Did you seriously play this game?
I agree , people complaining about the Valkyries being killed brutally, like really? Everyone suffers the same beat down Kratos hands out. Being a female doesn't change that, and shouldn't exclude them cause of public pressure. Let them make what they want to make don't buy if u don't like.What is wrong with people??? Seriously.
Story telling is an art form, and the moment you compromise your creativity because you want to please society, then your product will have no soul.
People are complaining about the representation of women in God of War, yet nobody in that game is represented in a good way, further more there isn't that many characters in the game period. Stop dictating how people should create art, if the story or product is not for you, don't bitch just don't play it.
Maybe try Horizon or Tomb Raider that have strong female leads, and if your unhappy about that, go play Tetris, can't believe this is even a topic.
Cool? What sort of answers/discussion is this supposed to elicit? "I don't like thing" is pretty much a dead end from the start.Well I find the existence of this game "problematic". It's a male power fantasy, and just looking at the cover makes me tired. I find it funny that there needs to be a discussion about whether details in the story are "problematic" when the whole game is emblematic of most things that are wrong with this industry.
I know. This game, one of the few that is legitimately flawless, has a lot of nuance in its story that apparently is going over the heads of a lot of people.
Pretty much.The game has a very confusing view of Freya.
Because... Freya is the villain.
She abuses her child for decades for her own selfish gains.
But then the game frames her as the victim of domestic violence when her abused son tries to kill her.
It's... very bizarre.
The game just wanted Kratos to kill someone while having it represent growth so they refused to humanize Baldur in any scenes and then had him choking a woman so that Kratos breaking his neck could be Cool and Anti-Hero and Profound and Good.
The game has a very confusing view of Freya.
Because... Freya is the villain.
She abuses her child for decades for her own selfish gains.
But then the game frames her as the victim of domestic violence when her abused son tries to kill her.
It's... very bizarre.
The game just wanted Kratos to kill someone while having it represent growth so they refused to humanize Baldur in any scenes and then had him choking a woman so that Kratos breaking his neck could be Cool and Anti-Hero and Profound and Good.
Flaws are systemic defects in design that hinder enjoyment. God of War suffered from no such defects. It does have a few superficial blemishes but nothing at all that systematically hurts the game.No game is flawless, that includes GoW. From the top of my head exploring (especially post-game) could be sped up, they definitely need a better selection of story bosses in the next game (they kinda missed a beat by not making the 1st Valkyrie fight a story boss IMO) and the side-quests, while lore heavy, could use some more meat and variety to them.
However, the story was pretty much not a problem. Especially since it was made clear that it's the very 1st part of a new trilogy and there is a whole lot more we'll learn about the world and it's characters in the coming games. Stuff they've already set up and hinted at and stuff we're not gonna see coming also (as per usual with any story). Also, in that regard, it's a clear improvement from ALL the previous installments and the treatment of the women present/mentioned is either fair or good. Which doesn't necessarily mean that they're shown in a positive light all of the time, as is the case with Freya, a clearly complex character that's surely gonna see some highs&lows before the end of this journey.
The game has a very confusing view of Freya.
Because... Freya is the villain.
She abuses her child for decades for her own selfish gains.
But then the game frames her as the victim of domestic violence when her abused son tries to kill her.
It's... very bizarre.
The game just wanted Kratos to kill someone while having it represent growth so they refused to humanize Baldur in any scenes and then had him choking a woman so that Kratos breaking his neck could be Cool and Anti-Hero and Profound and Good.
I made an entire thread about how Faye is a bizarre character also. You could view her as someone with a very convoluted plan to kill Odin that uses Kratos as a pawn for her plan but then... Kratos has no reaction to the revelation at the end so I'm not sure the game actually views her this way???