Is Evil Dead the only franchise where the first entry is the worst?

Captain_Cold · Sep 9, 2019

I would go with The Man With No Name trilogy on this. A Fistful of Dollars is a solid Yojimbo remake and while inspired, is fairly straightforward and a clear cutting of teeth for both Sergio Leone and Clint Eastwood in the main role.

For A Few Dollars More raises the stakes and the characters are much more interesting, especially Lee Van Cleef as Mortimer. Plus the ending feels like it has more pathos.

Then The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly is an all-around classic, considered by many to be one of the greatest films of all time, not to mention the soundtrack.

Z-Beat · Sep 9, 2019

Oh

ABC's of Death 2 > ABC's of Death 1

Deleted member 19066 · Sep 9, 2019

Mona said:
people in here saying New Hope is worse than Jedi lol

anyway, The Dollars trilogy?

and Rise of the planet of the apes is easily the weakest

Dollars trilogy is a good one. Fistful is great, but it just gets better and better.

Deleted member 21411 · Sep 9, 2019

Fast and furious 1 is a slow movie that isnt that fun every other movie is a blast

andymcc · Sep 9, 2019

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure-- easily.

Surfinn · Sep 9, 2019

ANH is my favorite film, but ESB is objectively better. ROTJ is worse than ANH though, so it doesn't quite fit the criteria. Also SW has fuckin' 8 sequels so (soon anyway), so it's a difficult comparison

You could also objectively say Captain America, though the original is by far my favorite.

Harry Potter could also qualify?

caliph95 · Sep 9, 2019

Z-Beat said:
...what about Toy Story? I haven't seen 4 but 2 and 3 were arguably just as good if not better than 1

I was thinking of this haven't seen 4 yet as well

But there could a decent discussion or argument on this since all of them are great

TheGummyBear · Sep 9, 2019

Teenage Fansub said:
BS. Have you listened to the commentary?

I have. The original movie was never meant to be comedic in any way though. Raimi has referred to the filming of the movie as a "comedy of errors," but it was intended to be a serious movie based upon H.P. Lovecraft.

Pirateluigi · Sep 9, 2019

Monkey DTT said:
Fast and furious 1 is a slow movie that isnt that fun every other movie is a blast

I like 1 more than 2, but otherwise, this holds

Z-Beat said:
...what about Toy Story? I haven't seen 4 but 2 and 3 were arguably just as good if not better than 1

Shocking, but yeah, this is pretty true.

Jon Carter · Sep 9, 2019

I see people disrespecting Ethan Hawke in here. Stop it.

Surfinn · Sep 9, 2019

Z-Beat said:
...what about Toy Story? I haven't seen 4 but 2 and 3 were arguably just as good if not better than 1

IMO nothing comes close to the original, even 3. But they're all pretty damn good

Z-Beat · Sep 9, 2019

caliph95 said:
I was thinking of this haven't seen 4 yet as well

But there could a decent discussion or argument on this since all of them are great

Yeah, the plot is good throughout but the animation in the 1st clearly didnt age well

Deleted member 21411 · Sep 9, 2019

Pirateluigi said:
I like 1 more than 2, but otherwise, this holds

I just really loved tyrese, he gave 2 fast this energy to it by being such a goofball

AdmiralAdmiral · Sep 9, 2019

The first evil dead is my favorite. I own 1, 2 and army of darkness.

WascallyWabbit · Sep 9, 2019

Monkey DTT said:
Fast and furious 1 is a slow movie that isnt that fun every other movie is a blast

Pirateluigi said:
I like 1 more than 2, but otherwise, this holds

Shocking, but yeah, this is pretty true.

Are you guys forgetting about the awful-ness that is Tokyo Drift?

Z-Beat · Sep 9, 2019

Which Riddick movie is the bad Riddick movie?

Bard · Sep 9, 2019

♡♪!? said:
Maybe Mad Max, you can barely tell it's post apocalypse. Early entry weirdness.

Wasn't it said that the first mad max isn't post apocalyptic but it's just before the jump into the abyss of it? Like there's still some semblance of society that some people are desperately trying to hold on to, but losing. Then everything completely goes to shit and the world gets nuked into oblivion.

Also, all these people saying A New Hope and Phantom Menace jesus christ.

WascallyWabbit said:
Are you guys forgetting about the awful-ness that is Tokyo Drift?

Tokyo Drift is the best FF movie though.

Jon Carter · Sep 9, 2019

Cipher Peon said:
I feel Paranormal Activity fits this better than Evil Dead.

I love the original Evil Dead! It's miles ahead of the awfulness of Evil Dead 2

You think 4, The Marked Ones and The Ghost Dimension are better than 1?

Deleted member 4367 · Sep 9, 2019

Army of darkness is bad. It's a bad movie. You're all bad people for liking it. Bad.

Deleted member 9317 · Sep 9, 2019

Put up a poll, you coward.

I don't sanction this buffoonery. The first movie is better than 3, definitely better than remakes and TV shows, and on par with (if not better than) 2.

Evil Dead is a classic and a masterpiece in Cabin Horror movies.

caliph95 · Sep 9, 2019

WascallyWabbit said:
Are you guys forgetting about the awful-ness that is Tokyo Drift?

No one remembers Tokyo Drift

But more people remember tokyo Drift tha Fast and Furious 4

Deleted member 21411 · Sep 9, 2019

WascallyWabbit said:
Are you guys forgetting about the awful-ness that is Tokyo Drift?

I'll watch tokyo drift any day just for han. I hate the main kid but other wise its schlocky fun.... which is what the series is to me

caliph95 · Sep 9, 2019

Z-Beat said:
Which Riddick movie is the bad Riddick movie?

The 2nd one

The first one arguably helped make Vin Diesel an action star well that and XXX

2nd one pretty much killed the series for a while

Nairume · Sep 9, 2019

As already noted, The Purge is the ultimate example of this. The first one is a genuinely awful film that utterly wastes the concept and pairs it with a really confused message. Every other movie in the franchise rocks, goes all in on the concept, and has their political messaging figured the fuck out.

Zombine · Sep 9, 2019

That's some hyperbole about Evil Dead if I ever saw it. The first film is a classic.

WascallyWabbit · Sep 9, 2019

caliph95 said:
No one remembers Tokyo Drift

But more people remember tokyo Drift tha Fast and Furious 4

There's always some crazies on here who will defend Tokyo Drift:

Bard said:
Tokyo Drift is the best FF movie though.

Monkey DTT said:
I'll watch tokyo drift any day just for han. I hate the main kid but other wise its schlocky fun.... which is what the series is to me

My boy Han deserved a better movie to go out in a blaze of glory

Cor · Sep 9, 2019

naw, Terminator. Only two films ever released, and the first is clearly not as good as the second.

Bard · Sep 9, 2019

WascallyWabbit said:
My boy Han deserved a better movie to go out in a blaze of glory

Oh I agree, but it's still the best movie since it's mostly about racing which is what the series should have been about and not the whole dumbass international thieves thing. Thought that whole part was just trash.

Z-Beat · Sep 9, 2019

Cor said:
naw, Terminator. Only two films ever released, and the first is clearly not as good as the second.

If we go by the current canon then yeah Terminator 1 is the worst because there are only two movies out.

But for the franchise Salvation still exists

Cipher Peon · Sep 9, 2019

Jon Carter said:
You think 4, The Marked Ones and The Ghost Dimension are better than 1?

Yes, STRONG yes, and soft yes respectively

The Shape · Sep 9, 2019

The thread title is already wrong. The first is the best.

SinOfHeart · Sep 9, 2019

Z-Beat said:
Ouija: Origin of Evil > Ouija

This is one that came to mind for me. To be clear for people who haven't seen them Ouija: Origin of Evil is a prequel sequel. Ouija was just a mostly all around terrible film. But Ouija: Origin of Evil is actually a fairly good horror flick.

Ensorcell · Sep 9, 2019

It isn't, Army of Darkness is. How dare you!

asmith906 · Sep 9, 2019

After watching all 3 movies back to back I find the original Evil Dead to be the best. Army of Darkness despite having memorable lines and moments, is the weakest IMO. It's not even a horror movie anymore and turned the series into a fantasy comedy

Jombie · Sep 9, 2019

I hate the slapstick of 2 and AoD; the original has always been my favorite.

Pirateluigi · Sep 9, 2019

WascallyWabbit said:
Are you guys forgetting about the awful-ness that is Tokyo Drift?

I honestly forgot that movie existed.

Xero grimlock · Sep 9, 2019

Cor said:
naw, Terminator. Only two films ever released, and the first is clearly not as good as the second.

Wholeheartedly disagree. The first is a much more consistent movie and doesn't have Edward furlongs John Connor.

Xero grimlock · Sep 9, 2019

Teenage Fansub said:
BS. Have you listened to the commentary?

I've listened to the commentary and read if Chins could kill, the first movie was definitely intended to be a serious horror movie, this is the first time I've ever seen anyone argue otherwise.

*sorry double post

Wanderer5 · Sep 9, 2019

RochHoch said:
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure only get better after Part 1.

andymcc said:
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure-- easily.

Heh, not a movie series, but yeah, JoJo came to mind. Granted, my personal experience for now is just Part 2-4 vs Phantom Blood, but it seems to be quite common that Phantom Blood is considered the worst (not that it's bad of course, just that the series got more crazy good).

shintoki · Sep 9, 2019

caliph95 said:
No one remembers Tokyo Drift

But more people remember tokyo Drift tha Fast and Furious 4

Real stinker of the lot.

Z-Beat · Sep 9, 2019

Jombie said:
I hate the slapstick of 2 and AoD; the original has always been my favorite.

Cort · Sep 9, 2019

All 4 Evil Dead movies are outstanding though. If there was a "worst" it would be the reboot because of the modern horror trope mess of a first 30 minutes. But this is an embarrassment of riches.

VorpalNonsense · Sep 9, 2019

Sephzilla said:
YOU SON OF A...

SOMEONE, HOLD ME BACK

Naw dude I aint holding shit, they fucked up. Get'em, bro. I'll just take a long sip and watch.

onpoint · Sep 9, 2019

Bane said:
I actually fine the movies get worse as they go. I like the more pure horror vibe of 1, still dig 2 but the comedy gets to be a bit much a few times, and am not big on Army. Including the TV show, I think it was redeemed a little and dig it more than Army.

If you're fine with a franchise only being two movies: Gremlins. 1 is a perfectly fine horror movie but 2 is just a fantastic movie.

Oooh this made me sit down and take stock. No way is G2 better in any way outside of unintentional comedy.

Fhtagn · Sep 9, 2019

Oheao said:
The first entry isn't the worst, though.

It depends a lot on one's taste, but the original Evil Dead is by far my favorite in the series.

It's a genuine miracle of extremely low budget horror delivering the goods, and that elevates it above the more polished, admittedly funnier sequels.

Mariachi507 · Sep 9, 2019

Man, people claiming Thunderdome is better than OG Mad Max as well? The audacity!

fontguy · Sep 9, 2019

I'm kidding pls don't yell at me.

Sweeney Swift · Sep 9, 2019

The Purge was worse. At least Evil Dead 1 is still fun

Deleted member 25606 · Sep 9, 2019

Jombie said:
I hate the slapstick of 2 and AoD; the original has always been my favorite.

I think it was good for 2. They were basically remaking the first film with studio money so by making it comedic and doing something different put it on par with 1, just as good but not a retread. But yeah AOD wasn't even horror.

404LinkNotFound · Sep 9, 2019

andymcc said:
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure-- easily.

As much as i like Part 1 ,i have to agree
Also id nominate Thor 1. I know people rag on 2 but i found that movie more entertaining than 1 which was pretty whatever for me

Is Evil Dead the only franchise where the first entry is the worst?

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