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PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't even really know what I'm getting at right now, or if I'm even making sense. I'm just so utterly discouraged by the direction the industry is heading on the whole. Basically every franchise I really care about is either dead, has been warped beyond comprehension, or is on a hiatus so long it might as well not even exist. Nothing new seems conceptually exciting because virtually every game is targeting the exact same kinds of demographics and gameplay styles. Monetization is rampant, live services secrete out of every orifice, and entire genres and playstyles are being swept off the board to make room for more of the same homogenized, gray nothingness.

I just need to know that I'm not the only person who has literally nothing to look forward to anymore. I feel like I'm in Tartarus - it's like everyone around me has something to play or look forward to and I can't even zero in on a single game that appeals to me moving forward. Is this what it feels like to be completely left behind by your primary hobby? I'm just extremely unhappy at the moment and having your main hobby basically do an about-face and walk straight away from you when you need something to drag you out of the pit is really extra painful.
 

Spring-Loaded

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Oct 27, 2017
19,904
I kinda don't, no

Next Mass Effect will save us all 🥲

FKCYf_d.webp
 

entremet

You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge
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Oct 26, 2017
60,417
Not really. Not being flippant. But I never am at a lost at things that interest me in modern gaming. I'm also talking about new games every year, not catalog games.

Seems you should try indies and maybe Nintendo stuff.

I love fighters and am feasting rn.
 

digitalrelic

Weight Loss Champion 2018: Biggest Change
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Oct 25, 2017
13,124
"Nothing new seems conceptually exciting because virtually every game is targeting the exact same kinds of demographics and gameplay styles. Monetization is rampant, live services secrete out of every orifice, and entire genres and playstyles are being swept off the board to make room for more of the same homogenized, gray nothingness."

I just don't know how you can actually believe this. There's more variety in videogames than there's ever been. There's literally something for everyone.

Just looking at some of the games I finished this year, and It Takes Two is dramatically different than Unpacking, which is dramatically different than Life is Strange: True Colors, which is dramatically different than RE2/3/7/Village, which are dramatically different than Cuphead: The Delicious Last Course, which is dramatically different than A Short Hike, which is dramatically different than Quantum Break, which is dramatically different than LEGO Star Wars, which is dramatically different than Kirby and the Forgottten Land, etc... etc.. etc...

You get the point.

Is monetization rampant? Sure. But I've completed like 25 games this year and I haven't had to worry about monetization in any of them. Just look at my examples above. You don't need to worry about monetization in any of those games. It just depends on what games you decide to play.
 

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I do.

I guess it's more my personal taste but I just don't see much more for me in gaming outside of the few big Fortnite/Apex/Warzone type games that I can play with my buddies popping up randomly.
 

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Sounds like someone needs a long and healthy stint of high quality indie games

Hundreds of great ones on GamePass and PS+ Premium (etc) that will likely change your mind.
 

demi

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Oct 27, 2017
14,878
Isn't this just a repost of the previous thread where someone lost their passion or something
 

krat0zs

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Jan 18, 2020
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Play older games
Look at smaller studios and indie games
There are still great games coming out
 

RailWays

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
15,755
Yeah, the homogenization in some genres is definitely noticeable and some genres get no love anymore from established publishers. Indie games have largely saved my enjoyment of this medium for this reason.

Though I feel things have gotten a bit better in terms of retro revivals lately
 

EvilBoris

Prophet of Truth - HDTVtest
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Oct 29, 2017
16,694
I think the thing that I find hardest when I separate out /discount a whole load of stuff that is all quite similar is that trying to discover the things that will hit just the right note is really hard.
 

SketchDog

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Nov 25, 2021
2,689
Toronto
Honestly - no. It seems like the gaming industry is better than ever...lots of good new IPs, big interest and effort in reviving old IPs with remakes/remasters/reboots, trying new directions with existing series etc.
 

entremet

You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge
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Oct 26, 2017
60,417
Isn't this just a repost of the previous thread where someone lost their passion or something
The other person just lost interest. Planetsmasher has been very vocal over the years of the big publishers not catering him.

I honestly don't see it, even with the type of games he likes. JRPGs are everywhere now. Far cry from the begging to localize days of SNES.

But I'm not him, so whateves lol.
 
Oct 30, 2017
15,278
I love video games but this seems like needless hand-wringing. I buy maybe 1 or 2 new games a year. Otherwise I stick to what is comfortable for me and I have an immense backlog that doesn't perpetuate the issues that you're concerned about.

You could also consider stepping away from this for a minute and recalibrate. Ultimately you have to understand that video games are a thriving business and these game companies aren't in a position to develop passion projects if shareholders don't think their is adequate ROI. You want to be upset at someone? Be upset at the corporate boards that mandate this for-profit era of gaming.
 

Neutron

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Jun 2, 2022
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Try to develop other interests.

Mass-produced entertainment should never have that sort of power over you.
 

th1nk

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Nov 6, 2017
6,322
I mean… Metroid is back, Sony First Party is on fire, Elden Ring was maybe the best game ever created… I am happy with my single player games for the most part.

If the AAA and AAAA games suck in the future, I will just play indies then. I am not worried about gaming, I am worried about the rest of the world.
 

OrakioRob

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Oct 25, 2017
3,496
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
There's more diversity than ever in games today. Maybe it's not the current state of gaming, but you being tired of games?

I say that because I went through a similar phase a few years ago where I wasn't interested in any games. It felt really weird, as I've been gaming since I was 4yo (I'm 43 now) and the idea of having free time and not wanting to play ANYTHING was super weird to me.

I eventually stopped playing and started focusing on other stuff. Books, movies, etc. Four months later... I was cured! ^_^
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
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Nothing new seems conceptually exciting because virtually every game is targeting the exact same kinds of demographics and gameplay styles.
You genuinely need to break your habit of immediately saying "no" whenever people on this website recommend you games because gaming has literally never been more diverse at any other point in its history than it is today. And that includes targeted demographics.
 

Xeonidus

“Fuck them kids.”
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Oct 28, 2017
4,289
Just take a break from games. It's hard to accept but if there's literally nothing you have to look forward to, it might be time to step away for a bit or replay old games. Gaming is more diverse than its ever been. You might also try something completely different and see how that goes.
 

Mesoian

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Oct 28, 2017
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I play fighting games. I will never care about the demographic argument.
 

EinBear

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Oct 27, 2017
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I honestly think you're over-thinking it. There's always some stupid trend that games are chasing after - a few years back everyone was sticking dumb phone app integration in their games, then before that it was them shoving co-op into everything, and before that it was making everything dark and gritty.

There's always been a lot of stupid, bad games out there, and there's always been a lot of fun, great games too. I'd suggest spending less time online really, online discourse around gaming is always trying to whip everyone into a frenzy about the latest controversy, but I don't think things are really any better or worse than they ever have been.
 

BGBW

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Oct 25, 2017
15,284
I see a future and it's wonderful.

It's called Haruka Amami from the iDOLM@STER being added to the next Smash.
 

Blade30

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Oct 26, 2017
4,626
Not quite. As far as new games go, there isn't that much I look forward to but I've got a big backlog of games I can fall back to or revisit older games, so it doesn't matter much to me at the moment.
If you're feeling like there is nothing to play or look forward to then maybe just take a break for now and focus on other hobbies.
 

UrĂ°r

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Aug 13, 2020
509
I used to like 6-7 games from every year back in the PS360 era. Right now, I've found 3 new releases to be interesting in 3 years. So yeah.
 

StarPhlox

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Oct 25, 2017
4,409
Wisconsin
The future of games is really bright imo. Yeah of course you're going to see garbage NFT stuff and despicable monetization but there are always going to be high quality games out there. I just think the doomsaying is unfounded. Also, if games straight up stopped coming out tomorrow we have like 40 years of games available
 

werezompire

Zeboyd Games
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Oct 26, 2017
11,470
No, I'm excited about Xenoblade 3 and Splatoon 3. I'm really excited for Soul Hackers 2 (liked Soul Hackers 1, and I'm excited for what looks like TMS#FE 2 minus the baggage of being stuck with FE references). I like random indies coming out of nowhere and giving me stuff I never knew I wanted. And there's a ton of stuff that's already out that I haven't gotten around to yet.
 

TubaZef

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Oct 28, 2017
3,568
Brazil
Nope, quite the contrary. Game making is more accessible than ever allowing small and medium sized devs to make interesting stuff. Older stuff that we thought would stay locked in Japan forever are getting localized. It seems like you are just looking at the wrong place.

If anything, I'm having more trouble seeing a future for humanity...
 

RpgN

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Oct 25, 2017
1,553
The Netherlands
What kind of games are you into OP? It makes me wonder if there are certain genres that are unrepresented that you are into?

As for me, it's never a problem to find something to play. What DOES tire me out is the monetisation around games, the expensive prices and the next scummy decisions publishers come up with.

This made me go to PC gaming where I can focus on older games that have less monetisation bullshit. The prices are often chapter, you have more ownership over your games and you can customise games to your liking.

I'm still new to the whole PC gaming and trying to learn modding old games that need it at the moment.

Edit:

Maybe my wording is not very clear, I'm not only focusing on old games. Indie games are awesome on PC too. And I'm happy that almost every publisher is active except for Nintendo. All of this combined helped make this decision for me.
 

Jamrock User

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Jan 24, 2018
3,179
Does something have to be new and conceptually exciting to be good?

Can't a game just be good? I recently played bugsnax a game so good that I went on to watch people talk about it on YouTube now all my recommendations are bugsnax.

Try new things.
 

Ouroboros

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Oct 27, 2017
13,071
United States
Looks bright to me. Personally, though, I'm having a hard time investing time now that we have two kids. Finding time (and energy) after bedtime is tough.
 

Kalor

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Oct 25, 2017
19,642
Not really. Gaming is more diverse than ever in terms of the variety of experiences being created and the audiences that are being served. There's always goings to be trends like always but there's more room for more games to exist.
 

Jaded Alyx

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Oct 25, 2017
35,457
"Nothing new seems conceptually exciting because virtually every game is targeting the exact same kinds of demographics and gameplay styles. Monetization is rampant, live services secrete out of every orifice, and entire genres and playstyles are being swept off the board to make room for more of the same homogenized, gray nothingness."

I just don't know how you can actually believe this. There's more variety in videogames than there's ever been. There's literally something for everyone.

Just looking at some of the games I finished this year, and It Takes Two is dramatically different than Unpacking, which is dramatically different than Life is Strange: True Colors, which is dramatically different than RE2/3/7/Village, which are dramatically different than Cuphead: The Delicious Last Course, which is dramatically different than A Short Hike, which is dramatically different than Quantum Break, which is dramatically different than LEGO Star Wars, which is dramatically different than Kirby and the Forgottten Land, etc... etc.. etc...

You get the point.

Is monetization rampant? Sure. But I've completed like 25 games this year and I haven't had to worry about monetization in any of them. Just look at my examples above. You don't need to worry about monetization in any of those games. It just depends on what games you decide to play.
And that's that.
 

Feign

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Aug 11, 2020
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I don't even really know what I'm getting at right now, or if I'm even making sense. I'm just so utterly discouraged by the direction the industry is heading on the whole. Basically every franchise I really care about is either dead, has been warped beyond comprehension, or is on a hiatus so long it might as well not even exist. Nothing new seems conceptually exciting because virtually every game is targeting the exact same kinds of demographics and gameplay styles. Monetization is rampant, live services secrete out of every orifice, and entire genres and playstyles are being swept off the board to make room for more of the same homogenized, gray nothingness.

I just need to know that I'm not the only person who has literally nothing to look forward to anymore. I feel like I'm in Tartarus - it's like everyone around me has something to play or look forward to and I can't even zero in on a single game that appeals to me moving forward. Is this what it feels like to be completely left behind by your primary hobby? I'm just extremely unhappy at the moment and having your main hobby basically do an about-face and walk straight away from you when you need something to drag you out of the pit is really extra painful.

I don't have time to elaborate, but give me a few hours and I will. I'll say this: I don't feel this right now, but I did. And in a not too dissimilar way, I believe. Just almost a decade ago.
 

--R

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not really. There are still dozens and dozens and dozens of games that are announced and released every year that are extremely interesting and fun to me.

I really think gaming hasn't been as diverse as it is right now. There are so many games that are doing completely new stuff that hasn't been done before, and existing IPs are being used and renovated across the board.

Like, man, I don't know. Take a break for a couple years and come back refreshed. I think the worst part is the negativity that permeates every video game discussion, and that ends up influencing people. You've seen it yourself with how people have treated extremely cool games like Stranger of Paradise.
 

Rowsdower

Shinra Employee of The Wise Ones
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Oct 27, 2017
16,675
Canada
As long as there are engaging single-player games I will still be gaming. It's more difficult now with a lot of focus on multi stuff, but there are are still some great titles coming out.

Plus the horror genre is booming. Horror games of all shapes and sizes are coming out, so I'm good there too.
 

Serule

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not really, I kinda feel the opposite: that there's so much I want to play and too little time for it all between AAA and indie spaces

Yeah even if I restrict myself to buying games on just one gaming platform (PS5 currently) it still feels like an endless deluge of games coming out. Might be different if you game more than I do, but I average a respectable 2 hours a day

I see some of OP's complaints but there are so many titles being released that it's not hard to avoid the ones I don't like.
 

NazzyQ

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Apr 6, 2018
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I think you're making a very broad sweeping generalisation of the industry. Those problems you mentioned definitely can't be dismissed, but there's more choice and variety than ever if you look beyond the traditional AAA space. I just started Neon White this weekend, and was surprised by how much it hooked me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
15,110
I was much more pessimistic during the PS360 era when it felt like the amount of viable genres was getting smaller and smaller, everyone was betting on mobile/ultracasual and Facebook games and Japan had trouble adapting to HD and western tastes.

Now it's almost the opposite. We've seen that every type of game, of any scale or genre, can have its place and audience. The biggest problem today is actually getting noticed, because there's too much coming out.
 

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Try to develop other interests.

This, but also the answer to your initial question is no.

The landscape may change (i.e. become more "underground" and zine-y) but there will always be people who love making games enough that there will be stuff to play. It just might not have that AAA feel (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

It's like how people say "today's music is all garbage"- that isn't remotely true. You can find gobs of talented musicians doing incredible work, but they're probably not going to be making headlines. You find them digging around in Bandcamp or recommended by a friend. You can find lots of developers making fun and quirky games, too!
 

AllChan7

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Apr 30, 2019
3,670
I'm the type who buys games day one and play them throughout the year. The last game that truly disappointed me was CP2077. Other than that, I've been more than satisfied by the games I've experienced each year. Next year looks stellar too as more games are moving to current gen only.

Honestly if you're feeling burnt out either expand your tastes or give the hobby a break. But the future of the industry has never been brighter especially with all 3 publishers in a great spot right now
 

Rocketz

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
7,947
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The options you have in today's gaming world are enormous. I guess if you were only into a certain type of game and that's it sure.
 

Sinah

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Jun 2, 2022
792
Honestly don't just focus on AAA games and get used to indies.
The video game industry is (or has already) become the film industry.
The big money guys don't want to take risks. They want guaranteed return on investment. They want a formula to make money through making games or films.
So they make tiny, incremental changes to things that worked in the past.
The ones making interesting games are the ones willing to take risks. Which means the ones doing it out of their own passion, usually with little money.
 

Aaron D.

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Oct 25, 2017
9,338
Nope, quite the contrary. Game making is more accessible than ever allowing small and medium sized devs to make interesting stuff.

Yeah, the ease of access to dev tools & distribution methods has created an explosion of both content & creativity within the space.

Can't think of a another time when we've had more innovation & choice. And I've been in the game since Atari 2600.
 
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