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IO Interactive Project 007 and Project Dragon set release after March 2025

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Full credit to DarkDetective for sharing this, and to GamingLeaksAndRumours where I saw this first.


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Det

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Makes sense. We only got an announcement that they've secured licensing to make a Bond game AFAIK.

Edit: Completely missed Project Dragon. Also makes sense given they haven't even announced it.
 
DontHateTheBacon

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Whew. That is… quite a ways away. Hopefully the next few years don't do too much damage prior to release.
 
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Sounds like their GP deal was a lump sum + "performance based" payouts
 
S1kkZ

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thats 3 fucking years from now?! did the 007 project not start over a year ago? and they will use the hitman 3 engine for that, right? 4+ years of development seems a bit much.
 
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That is a long ass time. They should have a new Bond by then, so I wonder if they'll be modelled off whoever gets that gig.
 
dex3108

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My question is how they intend to sustain themselves until then? Will they continue with Hitman updates?
 
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Thats the problem with codename leaks. The games are years away
 

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S1kkZ said:
thats 3 fucking years from now?! did the 007 project not start over a year ago? and they will use the hitman 3 engine for that, right? 4+ years of development seems a bit much.
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It really doesn't. AAA games take a long time to make.

Helix said:
oh, I guess IOI has expanded to two teams then because I assume this is not being done by the Hitman folks.

Fantasy RPG does sound like something in my ballpark of interest!
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afaik a lot of hitman/IO veterans are on the project
 
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Why even mention stuff that won't be coming out for more than two years? So much shit can change in that time.

I guess it might be needed to explain where the money is being spent, maybe?
 
Faceless_Caesar

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I'll wait. I want them to get it right and IOI making a Bond game is already an excellent choice and I want there to be good Bond games again.
 
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S1kkZ said:
thats 3 fucking years from now?! did the 007 project not start over a year ago? and they will use the hitman 3 engine for that, right? 4+ years of development seems a bit much.
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They presumably announced that deal pretty close to when they inked it for recruitment purposes.
 
Foffy

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Leakers have talked about a GOTY edition of Hitman 3, but that's a long time until 2025. Here I thought we were getting Freelancer and maybe one more bonus level.
 
Gavalanche

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2025! Thats ages away. The heat death of the universe could have come and gone!
 
Raigor

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S1kkZ said:
i know but i was under the impression that they pretty much re-skin hitman 3 and use that as a starting point for bond. i expected 3 years but not 4+.
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Why were you expecting a reskin? Bond is not going to be stiff and they need to work on cinematic tools and upgrade their engine.

That's a lot of work and money they have to spend and 4+ years with COVID is normal.
 
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Transistor said:
Why even mention stuff that won't be coming out for more than two years? So much shit can change in that time.

I guess it might be needed to explain where the money is being spent, maybe?
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They didn't really. Just telling investors to expect lower revenue/profits for the next few years due to long production cycles for their upcoming games, thus inferring Project Dragon & 007 are releasing after March 2025.
 
Raigor

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Transistor said:
Why even mention stuff that won't be coming out for more than two years? So much shit can change in that time.

I guess it might be needed to explain where the money is being spent, maybe?
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It's a press release for shareholders and authorities.

They have to show where are they spending their money.
 
Temascos

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Excited for 007, hopefully by the time it comes out we'll be on the way to having the next James Bond for the films after Craig.
 
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S1kkZ said:
thats 3 fucking years from now?! did the 007 project not start over a year ago? and they will use the hitman 3 engine for that, right? 4+ years of development seems a bit much.
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Games take longer and are more expensive to make now. There's no way a successful Bond game would just be a re-skinned Hitman. It needs to be designed from the ground up.
 
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Mr Evil 37 said:
It's really not that far. And it makes sense given when these projects were started and how ambitious they presumably are.
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I understand how ambitious they are, it's just already worrisome that they are mentioning that this past year was boosted by a Game Pass deal, and that they are thin for the next couple of FYs. I'm sure it will be fine, I just don't want anything to knock the development off course for these projects, at least the 007 one could be truly amazing.
 
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Temascos said:
Excited for 007, hopefully by the time it comes out we'll be on the way to having the next James Bond for the films after Craig.
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Or alternatively, by then EON has completely lost the plot and brings back Craig again, with an undead 007 who roams the Earth trying to find a way to finally die and find piece, all while driving around in the newest car by Aston Martin for some reason
 
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DontHateTheBacon said:
I understand how ambitious they are, it's just already worrisome that they are mentioning that this past year was boosted by a Game Pass deal, and that they are thin for the next couple of FYs. I'm sure it will be fine, I just don't want anything to knock the development off course for these projects, at least the 007 one could be truly amazing.
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IO will be fine. They will be getting significant funding from the EON and Xbox and they are continuing to support Hitman in the meantime.
 
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S1kkZ said:
thats 3 fucking years from now?! did the 007 project not start over a year ago? and they will use the hitman 3 engine for that, right? 4+ years of development seems a bit much.
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Tell me you know nothing about how long it takes for a game to be made without telling me you know nothing about how long games take to be made.
 
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DontHateTheBacon said:
I understand how ambitious they are, it's just already worrisome that they are mentioning that this past year was boosted by a Game Pass deal, and that they are thin for the next couple of FYs. I'm sure it will be fine, I just don't want anything to knock the development off course for these projects, at least the 007 one could be truly amazing.
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That's the reality of indipendent AAA game development.

If you don't have a Live Service game running all year generating additional revenue you are going to keep going with thin revenue and margins for years until one big release.
 
Bear and bird

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I'm glad Xbox has held off on announcing Project Dragon (for now). The early announcements were getting ridiculous.
 
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Helix said:
oh that's interesting, would like to see more but it looks like that's gonna be quite a ways off.



so are they all working on seperate projects?
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Afaik no, but the Barcelona team looks to be the one leading Project Dragon since they hired one former CDPR lead game designer.
 
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Quite curious to see IOI's take on a medieval fantasy setting with dragons and stuff. 2025 seems pretty far away though, and that's probably the most optimistic release window.
 
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