Don't think there is any information other than title yet.Well, that showed nothing. Is it another RPG Maker story based game?
That trailer doesn't exactly fill me with hope. These guys produce really amateurish stuff IMO. To The Moon was the worst written narrative game I have ever played, a combination of saccharine sentimentality, an extremely convoluted premise and awful, clunky dialogue. But it was made ages ago and the bar is set much higher for narrative game work now, so I'm hoping that this next game will be more mature.
Lmao, i would like to know witch narrative game you play then, because To the moon, and Finding paradise have better writting, music than most game on the market.
That trailer doesn't exactly fill me with hope. These guys produce really amateurish stuff IMO. To The Moon was the worst written narrative game I have ever played, a combination of saccharine sentimentality, an extremely convoluted premise and awful, clunky dialogue. But it was made ages ago and the bar is set much higher for narrative game work now, so I'm hoping that this next game will be more mature.
and i thought i had bad opinionsLol they really, really don't. They're like a made-for-TV weepie, or the sort of sentimental paperbacks they sell at gas stations.
Compare them to Firewatch, What Remains of Edith Finch, Night in the Woods, Gone Home, Kentucky Route Zero, Hellblade, Her Story, Undertale, Tacoma, Oxenfree, Life is Strange, Telltale games- in terms of narrative, they are all far, far beyond what To The Moon achieves. Even something like Stardew Valley, which isn't a narrative game, has much better writing than To The Moon has.
That trailer doesn't exactly fill me with hope. These guys produce really amateurish stuff IMO. To The Moon was the worst written narrative game I have ever played, a combination of saccharine sentimentality, an extremely convoluted premise and awful, clunky dialogue. But it was made ages ago and the bar is set much higher for narrative game work now, so I'm hoping that this next game will be more mature.
It was the kamehameha, wasn't it?Lol they really, really don't. They're like a made-for-TV weepie, or the sort of sentimental paperbacks they sell at gas stations.
Compare them to Firewatch, What Remains of Edith Finch, Night in the Woods, Gone Home, Kentucky Route Zero, Hellblade, Her Story, Undertale, Tacoma, Oxenfree, Life is Strange, Telltale games- in terms of narrative, they are all far, far beyond what To The Moon achieves. Even something like Stardew Valley, which isn't a narrative game, has much better writing than To The Moon has.
100%So you honestly think that To The Moon is of the standard of the games I listed?
Actually like to explain why? Is it the the cheesy soap opera sentimentality or the dialogue that reads like it's been put through Google Translate or...?
you obviously got an axe to grind with To The Moon, and you came into this thread just to shit on itActually like to explain why? Is it the the cheesy soap opera sentimentality or the dialogue that reads like it's been put through Google Translate or...?
Huh...
I will be updating this thread as more info comes along btw. Just the title is revealed yet.
It's possible that like with A Bird's Story, this title will be separate from the Sigmund series but might tie into the third game somehow.
you obviously got an axe to grind with To The Moon, and you came into this thread just to shit on it
this thread aint about To The Moon, and I'm not gonna derail it anymore
you got some weird hangups over TTM
I did not come into this thread to shit on To The Moon as my initial post makes clear
That trailer doesn't exactly fill me with hope. These guys produce really amateurish stuff IMO. To The Moon was the worst written narrative game I have ever played
Why are you lying to me
Do you know what happens when you lie to a legend
you're the one saying liking the story of TTM over those other games you listed is an insult to those gamesIt's more that I didn't expect people to be so defensive over it. I thought it was the sort of indie game that people loved years ago, but doesn't really stand up these days, like Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP or Canabalt or something. I didn't think me musing over whether or not the developer could create a good game in a much more crowded narrative game marketplace would be controversial.
you're the one saying liking the story of TTM over those other games you listed is an insult to those games
get the hell out of here with this "WHY IS EVERYONE SO DEFENSIVE, HUH" bull
coolI said it's an insult to the writers, as in the actual professional writers who wrote those games. Like idk what I can say, the structure of Firewatch's narrative and the way just enough character and contextual information is revealed throughout the game, or the way that conversation works so seamlessly in Oxenfree- the way those elements intersect with the actual game mechanics is just so well made and pushes interactive narrative into new places. If people want to blindly ignore that over loyalty for a 2011 indie game then that's their business, but it comes across as more of a fandom thing than objectivity, and I'm allowed to say I think they're wrong, just as others on here have told me that I'm wrong, again and again.
But the context of me saying "To The Moon was bad" was me wondering whether this game could be more mature. I thought it was generally accepted that To The Moon had aged badly. My mistake, clearly.
With all due respect, you're talking like the kind of people who dismissed and scorned It's a Wonderful Life because it was a simple story with a sincere message. Who didn't take television writing seriously until it got all eye-rollingly "mature". There is nothing wrong with "Weepies" in and of themselves. Some of them are excellent movies, and they are popular because they speak to something deep inside their audience.Lol they really, really don't. They're like a made-for-TV weepie, or the sort of sentimental paperbacks they sell at gas stations.
Lol they really, really don't. They're like a made-for-TV weepie, or the sort of sentimental paperbacks they sell at gas stations.
Compare them to Firewatch, What Remains of Edith Finch, Night in the Woods, Gone Home, Kentucky Route Zero, Hellblade, Her Story, Undertale, Tacoma, Oxenfree, Life is Strange, Telltale games- in terms of narrative, they are all far, far beyond what To The Moon achieves. Even something like Stardew Valley, which isn't a narrative game, has much better writing than To The Moon has.
Something like the Telltale games might have more solid writing on a moment to moment basis but I think To the Moon and Finding Paradise are a lot more thematically interesting and emotionally evocative overall, and they come together in a way that's really satisfying. They're also really different so it's hard to compare.
Hi, is this the thread where people shit on unrelated games they don't like, and feel insulted about other people's opinions on behalf of even more unrelated games' writers? Because I'd like to say I'm excited about this announcement, but maybe that would be off-topic here.
That's my favorite kind of thread!
Well, that showed nothing. Is it another RPG Maker story based game?
Huh...
I will be updating this thread as more info comes along btw. Just the title is revealed yet.
That trailer doesn't exactly fill me with hope. These guys produce really amateurish stuff IMO. To The Moon was the worst written narrative game I have ever played, a combination of saccharine sentimentality, an extremely convoluted premise and awful, clunky dialogue. But it was made ages ago and the bar is set much higher for narrative game work now, so I'm hoping that this next game will be more mature.
Hmm... I'll agree with you that TTM doesn't hold up as well today if you are looking at it from a 2019 perspective, but for its time it was a revolutionary story, dare I say. It did elict a ton of emotion and sympathy for 2D RPG Maker sprites and that's a huge accomplishment in my book. Plus the lore of the game was plenty interesting at least to me, and the ideas it presented were really bittersweet and more thought provoking than the average game, even today.Lol they really, really don't. They're like a made-for-TV weepie, or the sort of sentimental paperbacks they sell at gas stations.
Compare them to Firewatch, What Remains of Edith Finch, Night in the Woods, Gone Home, Kentucky Route Zero, Hellblade, Her Story, Undertale, Tacoma, Oxenfree, Life is Strange, Telltale games- in terms of narrative, they are all far, far beyond what To The Moon achieves. Even something like Stardew Valley, which isn't a narrative game, has much better writing than To The Moon has.
Lol they really, really don't. They're like a made-for-TV weepie, or the sort of sentimental paperbacks they sell at gas stations.
Compare them to Firewatch, What Remains of Edith Finch, Night in the Woods, Gone Home, Kentucky Route Zero, Hellblade, Her Story, Undertale, Tacoma, Oxenfree, Life is Strange, Telltale games- in terms of narrative, they are all far, far beyond what To The Moon achieves. Even something like Stardew Valley, which isn't a narrative game, has much better writing than To The Moon has.
I feel like To The Moon is the sort of game that has been canonised as one of the groundbreaking narrative games of this decade, yet most of the people who namedrop it haven't actually played it or know what the writing is actually like.
Yes! I absolutely loved it. It's also different enough from To The Moon to be totally worth playing.Was Finding Paradise as good as To The Moon? I never ended up playing it.