There are a number of games on non-Nintendo systems that I always recommend to Nintendo fans, based on certain shared principles such as good game feel (the "friction" between character actions and the game world — the cause and effect, if you would) and whip-smart design.
The Souls/borne series is one example of this. MGSV, one of my all-time faves, is another. And so is DOOM — a game that has already made the "switch," so to speak, and quite beautifully, imo. If Iwata were still with us, I could easily see him appreciating these games in a volume of Iwata Asks. They're love letters to people who speak the language of games.
Because I have a limited budget and if I have to choose, I prefer Nintendo games. Next.I'd really like to meet one of these mythical Nintendo-only gamers just to ask why?
And so is DOOM — a game that has already made the "switch," so to speak, and quite beautifully, imo.
I'm not Neiteio, but I get what he means and understand what he sees in these games (well, I love them as well), my recommendation would be: Resident Evil 6 or Revelations 2.When I read this part I was thinking 'hmm I see where you are going with this', and then when I see you put down MGSV and Doom this thread immediately got my attention because I absolutely adore all three of these games. You've done an awesome job with this thread and I hope everyone goes out and buys it in May. Also I'm convinced you have a similar taste in games to me, so now I want you to dig into your brain and tell me some other games that fit this criteria so I can go buy them.
I don't see why. The same way people weren't 'obligated' to buy a PS3 for Demon's Souls, people aren't obligated to have played any of the others.Also, it's their loss if people are only having contact with souls games through the Switch release. Anyone with more than a passing interest in games should already know what this series is and should've checked some of the entries out.
Because I do not need to play other consoles to be "happy".I'd really like to meet one of these mythical Nintendo-only gamers just to ask why?
Not really.I said that people who are interested in games in general should know already what souls-games are about
I don't see why. The same way people weren't 'obligated' to buy a PS3 for Demon's Souls, people aren't obligated to have played any of the others.
Maybe this will push some Nintendo-only fans to pick up a PS4 for Bloodborne.
More people getting a great game is always a good thing.
I misunderstood your post, sorry. Because you said this:I don't see where exactly I said that people are obligated to buy a console or even a game. I said that people who are interested in games in general should know already what souls-games are about and should've formed their opinion whether it's for them or not, be it through videos, streams or any other of the resources at their disposal. It's been close to 7 years since Dark Souls was released, I find it very hard that anyone in this forum, for instance, has had no sort of glimpse into this series before now. And if somehow these people were waiting for it to be ported to a platform of their preference, I don't think they are all that interested in the games.
I took the last line to mean if someone really cared, they'd have tried one of them, i.e. they wouldn't have just one platform.it's their loss if people are only having contact with souls games through the Switch release.
It's like Zelda, as in The Legend of Zelda, for the NES.The greatest lie the devil ever told was that Dark Souls was like Zelda.
Biggest load of horseshit I've ever experienced.
If you're interested because you heard the same, it's not true. It has a couple of mechanics (like Z-targeting) but the gameplay loops are absolutely nothing alike
I'm not Neiteio, but I get what he means and understand what he sees in these games (well, I love them as well), my recommendation would be: Resident Evil 6 or Revelations 2.
Maybe I wasn't too clear, but I meant that even if they only own Nintendo platforms, they would've at least seen videos of the game or played it at a friend's house. Sure, if it clicked for them, I don't think they should have waited for a port. I mean, it's similar to wanting to play a Mario game yet waiting for it to be released elsewhere.I took the last line to mean if someone really cared, they'd have tried one of them, i.e. they wouldn't have just one platform.
I find it hard to believe that there are people who will absolutely refuse to read or otherwise consume media regarding a game simply because it won't come out on their preferred platform. I mean, what's wrong about broadening one's horizons a bit? They might even find games that are worthy of them seeking out a different platform.If someone only ever gets Nintendo systems, why bother checking out games that had never been announced for a Nintendo system?
Are you trying to scare people off dude?
So many cringy post.
If I had a switch, I'd twink the shit out of everyone. Give them the true 'Welcome to Dark Souls'
Well, the proof is in the pudding. There are people right here in this thread that are seemingly in that situation.I find it hard to believe that there are people who will absolutely refuse to read or otherwise consume media regarding a game simply because it won't come out on their preferred platform. I mean, what's wrong about broadening one's horizons a bit? They might even find games that are worthy of them seeking out a different platform.
Honestly, I hope people who've never played Souls before give it a chance.
It's one of the few games worth experiencing with a busy online community. And there's to be fair, there's nothing really like your first Souls game and experiencing and understanding all the pieces of the moving puzzle, that is the game.
It's a fantastic experience.
lmao it took me like 70 hours for my xbox no DLC playthrough. I was like level 100 something. So. It can take a wee bit longer...
Look, I used to be REALLY bad. I was bad at normal video games. But hey, if I can do it...
Both are generally not true. Those games are very different.So, if you love Zelda you will probably like Dark Souls also. :)
Also I could said, if you love Dark Souls you will probably like Zelda also. :)
Not true. These games are nothing like Dark Souls and Bloodbourne. You can like all those games but there is no correlation between liking the former and the latter. They play nothing alike.If someone liked Metroid + Prime or Castlevania/Metroidvania games then boy do you need to play Dark Souls it will fit right at home, after playing BB and DS3 i thought why did i not get into this franchise way earlier.
No, it is not. It has more in common with Super Mario Bros 2 jpn / The Lost Levels.
Both are generally not true. Those games are very different.
Not true. These games are nothing like Dark Souls and Bloodbourne. You can like all those games but there is no correlation between liking the former and the latter. They play nothing alike.
Well the world structure gives me a metroid like feeling that's why and the quality ofbthe world building feels simular that's why i like it so much and get to that relation.Both are generally not true. Those games are very different.
Not true. These games are nothing like Dark Souls and Bloodbourne. You can like all those games but there is no correlation between liking the former and the latter. They play nothing alike.
No, it is not. It has more in common with Super Mario Bros 2 jpn / The Lost Levels.
I would really appreciate it if people would stop with the game comparisons. They are quite misleading and only result in false expectations of the game.
Dark Souls games are Dark Souls games. They are rather unique. There is no connection to other games except other "Souls-like" games.
There are no games X that are not "Souls-like" where the sentence "If you like/love X you will like/love Dark Souls" is generally true.
Well I disagree.No, it is not. It has more in common with Super Mario Bros 2 jpn / The Lost Levels.
I would really appreciate it if people would stop with the game comparisons. They are quite misleading and only result in false expectations of the game.
Dark Souls games are Dark Souls games. They are rather unique. There is no connection to other games except other "Souls-like" games.
There are no games X that are not "Souls-like" where the sentence "If you like/love X you will like/love Dark Souls" is generally true.
Is it kinda like megaman where if you play it enough you can do everything on memory?
Can you explain the reasoning for this to me please? It's something I've only ever seen from Nintendo fans and I find it baffling. Why is having Nintendo characters / outfits in games that have nothing whatsoever to do with Nintendo so important?There's a 90% chance they put Link's tunic in the Switch version too, maybe everything like a Master Sword.
If they did it for Skyrim, they'll do it here. Can't wait to play as Link.
I believe that there are quite a few people that like both games, but there is little correlation between the games. It is better to describe which particular aspects of both games you liked and feel are similar. Stories of Zelda and Souls games are very different, as is the atmosphere in both franchises. Dark Souls does not follow the Zelda formula and progression. Combat is only slightly similar.They are different but I already saw plenty of examples (including this thread) where people love DS and Zelda.
Well, this is a better description of your opinion, thank you.Well the world structure gives me a metroid like feeling that's why and the quality ofbthe world building feels simular that's why i like it so much and get to that relation.
Also there is a bit of sense of progression sure not the same at all but still.
I did not say your experience is invalid. You might feel the same way with Dark Souls as with The Legend of Zelda. I will not argue that. But you did not equate your experiences with the two games before, but the games themselves. And the games are not alike. They are not even similar. Gameplay is completely different. 2D vs 3D. No Zelda formula in Dark Souls. Completely different combat. Progression through the world is not similar. Similarities might be in NPC and story sparseness, the general 'action' category for both games and having boss fights. And liking one does not automatically lead to liking the other.Well I disagree.
For me, DkS1 is the game most evocative of the original Zelda. If not for you, that's fine, but it doesn't make my experience any less valid.
Also a key difference between Dark Souls and basically every other game:
Other games are benevolent towards the player and mostly fair. Dark Souls is not. Dark Souls hates the player with a passion. It is a game designed by a pissed-off, vengeful Dungeon Master that wants to see all characters die. And tries his best around every corner and in every room with enemies, traps and architecture. (like the lost levels)
I completely disagree.Also a key difference between Dark Souls and basically every other game:
Other games are benevolent towards the player and mostly fair. Dark Souls is not. Dark Souls hates the player with a passion. It is a game designed by a pissed-off, vengeful Dungeon Master that wants to see all characters die. And tries his best around every corner and in every room with enemies, traps and architecture. (like the lost levels)
I've heard DS is similar to MH, so I'll definitely have to give it a try. The setting is also something not found on Switch yet, outside of Skyrim.
Moreover, the first two Zeldas are brutally difficult. Way way harder than DkS1 to me. Yeah, they've been a cake walk since LttP, but those first two are seriously challenging.
I'm Nintendo only, and I'm pretty sure there are lots. I know people who only play Nintendo to limit their play time and backlogs, for example.I dont think it really exist the "Nintendo Only" gamers out of a few handful amount. that being said Souls on the go in worth the double dip
I dont think it really exist the "Nintendo Only" gamers out of a few handful amount. that being said Souls on the go in worth the double dip
Nintendo only gamers still baffle me in the sense they are a lot less enthusiastic about 3rd party games that are on their platform.I am technically a Nintendo-only gamer.
1. I like Nintendo's focus on how you interact with your games, being someone who grew up during the decline of arcades;
2. I like Nintendo's quirkiness;
3. I appreciate that at least Iwata viewed Nintendo's developers as artisans (per a quote from an Iwata Asks that I can't recall off the top of my head) as opposed to just cogs in a machine that makes commercially viable stuff;
4. I will not buy a Microsoft platform because I have been privy to the company-at-large's anti-competitive practices since the 90s - practices which still exist (and have not existed with Nintendo since Iwata took over the company);
5. Sony's marketing since PS3 has pretty directly said to me "we are focusing on competing with Microsoft, the kinds of games you like are mostly here to throw you a bone and keep you in our ecosystem" (where is Ape Escape, or Dark Cloud, or any of the titles that made me love my PSX or PS2? They're just not competitive enough with Microsoft's offerings in America, but maybe the Crash Bandicoot remaster will change that);
6. I am poor and a lot of my money goes toward my intended career paths, so I can't put money into a console + a PC, therefore I will buy Nintendo first and foremost (I do have a Steam account with quite a few games but never get a chance to use it);
7. Nintendo makes great games that I personally enjoy, and third party devs who have provided content to Nintendo platforms have scratched any itch I might have gaming-wise;
8. I don't give the first shit about resolution, and honestly feel like forcing HD on devs last get was more harmful to the industry than beneficial due to the number of studios that were shuttered due to the increased costs of development... the focus on 4K is not boding well in this regard.
"Nintendo-only gamers" aren't a myth. They're just hard for a lot of enthusiasts to comprehend because enthusiasts have a lot of presuppositions about how gamers are "supposed to be" or "supposed to think", which I generally disregard because it's usually all in-group signaling BS.
Ask me whatever else you'd like.
I've heard DS is similar to MH, so I'll definitely have to give it a try. The setting is also something not found on Switch yet, outside of Skyrim.
Noooooot really.
Don't know who told you that, but is not an apt comparison.
I personally have been in a financial hole for the last 7 or so years, after the Wii and DS I was only really able to afford a 2DS at 120 euros, and only own like 10 games for it. So yeah, I do, and even if I have missed out on a ton of games, my 2010 PC has at least let me play most indie games up to 2015 if they are not too demanding.Who only owns Nintendo consoles anyway? No offense, but the amount how games you're missing out on is like the Pacific Ocean.