I'm extremely jealous of the US East Coast and PNW right now.
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I went out in shorts and a hoodie to get a latte yesterday. OP is fucking wild wanting snow and does not speak for residents of California.
They should make a reality show called "Switching CliMates" or something, where people that want to experience the extreme opposite climate/weather conditions in another location, have to move for like 2 weeks and experience it during the worst time of the year. Maybe then people would have a newfound realization that others have a different set of crappy weather issues that they need to deal with.
Yeaaaaaaah, terrible weather is only ever cool for people who get to sit in their nice warm home and watch it happen. For everyone else it's a nightmare.
I'm not saying I don't enjoy looking at snow, but too much of it is only a bad thing. Snow for me means arduous shoveling, salting, and putting on three layers to trudge two miles to work in freezing temperatures. It means idiots who can't drive causing accidents. I hate snow.
People die from the cold, doctors postpone vaccinations because of it, they postpone covid tests, 300+ accidents from slippery ice conditions, people slipping and breaking hips and legs and elbows, your commute quadruples in length and is white knuckle from start to finish because you don't even know if your car can get over a hill if traffic stops on it, you go snowblind from being out in the -30F but sunny weather reflecting off all the snow.
Nah it sucks. MN gets over 100F during summer and I work outside and I can easily take that over the amount of variables that snow, ice and cold bring.
Nah it sucks. MN gets over 100F during summer and I work outside and I can easily take that over the amount of variables that snow, ice and cold bring.
I'd kick somebody's dick in to be able to spend another winter/Christmas in Chicago. I grew up there until the age of 14, but haven't been back since '95. Spent the rest in California and now in Texas. I would trade 10 years of my life just to spend a few more up there.
I live close to Florida so it doesn't snow here but the rain has been none stop for like a week and a half straight. Shits starting to get annoying.
We "might" get some. Forecast will say snow and I'll walk outside to find rain for the whole week. Maybe some slush.
Winter weather is great when you can visit it, and then get the fuck out. It's absolutely miserable to live and work in.
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Paso Robles in North SLO County used to get really cold. Snow is a natural part of winter and necessary, just like cold temps and rain used to be a natural part of our winter in California. Our local meteorologist paints a grim-er picture with every passing year. Average rainfall dropping dramatically, breaking more heat than cold records. I do love it here in California, especially in the Central Coast, but it's sad that my son won't get to experience the same California. Last year the wildfires got dangerously close to my house and it's not even technically in a 'dangerous' spot. Not to mention our lakes which are almost depleted.Where exactly are you getting 10's of digits in CA outside of parts directly stuck to the mountains, way up north or odd bits of the central valley everyone ignores? I mean 30 years living as far north as Oakland then down to LA. Our weather is super tame unless you go looking for it. You can absolutely find cold weather here, but the most common places people talk about are some 30s at worst the majority of the time.
Again, not saying there isn't 10 degree shifts and cold snaps, but the coastline of CA is absolutely not that. At best you get winter time that hovers around 20s like right now.
Yeah, SLO doesn't look like the postcards they sell at Cal Poly anymore. We used to have emerald green hills like the ones in Ireland. I'm sure all our natural greenery will die off soon. All my fruit trees are dead because of the lack of water.
OP, I think the biggest issue here is that California (SoCal, at least), is now inevitably headed into yet another drought. For the third time in 20 years. La Niña sucks.
Yeah, it's been an absolutely dreadful winter here. It's one of the few times where too much sunny weather affects my mental well-being.
Living here is like watching one of the most beautiful places slowly wither and die right before your eyes because of climate change. It's absolutely devastating to watch happen in real time.
THAT'S the reason it sucks to live here right now.
The premise should be what OP and I have experienced though; you stay in your home state (NY, WI, IL) but experience the rain, snow, cold and seasons slowing vanish and merge into a neverending sunny day. The best part is you eventually lose track of months altogether. When I first moved to the CA central coast, March - May meant rainy season and lush spring grass and flowers into the summer. Nowadays, dead brown hills all year long, for years in fact because of drought. It really starts to affect your mental well-being, in the same way I would imagine long frozen winters affect people. The catch is the sun never goes away, at some point most Americans have an end of winter.
Where in California are you? We just got a ton of rain in SoCal last couple weeks. The Sierras got DUMPED on with snow - we are talking more than 10 feet at Mammoth and similar in Tahoe. Just 45 minutes north of LA there were multiple storms that dumped over a foot of snow each. Big Bear, Snow Summit, Mt Baldy were a winter wonderland. Even here in San Diego County we got snow - just had to drive east of downtown about 45 minutes into Alpine. This week and the last has been cold AF in SD proper. Its been getting into lower 40s at night and some days it didn't even get up to 60. I been having plenty of fires in my fire place last few weeks. This is about as much winter as I want haha - bring back the 70s at the beach already!
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Very true. As someone with chronic anxiety, I let the weather and climate dictate my mood and mental health, which is why I make some many threads to complain. I actually feel better mentally when we have overcast days and have grown to hate sunshine and hot weather. I get really depressed during the summer and you'll find me at my happiest when autumn finally starts peeling it's head in like November.
LMAO OP go to big bear or something
We're absolutely blessed here to not be dealing with that kind of cold and getting snowed in.
We're absolutely blessed here to not be dealing with that kind of cold and getting snowed in.
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We did too. Actually SLO County got the most rain out of everyone but even that barely put a dent on the drought levels and our meteorologist explained how with a warming atmosphere we'll see less rain overall but more occasional dumping of rain.
It's just extremely sad what global warming is doing to our world. I do what I can but we need people with more power to start doing something.
You'd hate the PNW lol. A week and a half of rain is easy mode.
Reminds me a of story. It's the story of a French person moving to Quebec and as a new immigrant loved snow initially and then slowly turned into a local and hated it. I ran it through google translate (for speed translation). everything with '...' is a swear word.
August 12:
We have just moved into our new home in Quebec.
It is very beautiful here.
The mountains are so majestic.
I can't wait to see them covered in snow.
October 14:
Quebec is the most beautiful place in the world.
The leaves of the trees have taken
all possible shades of red and orange.
We went for a walk
in the mountains and we saw deer.
What graceful creatures!
They are certainly the most beautiful animals in creation.
This place is a paradise.
I love it!
November 4:
The deer hunting season is starting soon.
I can't believe we can
blame such a beautiful animal.
I hope it will snow soon.
I love Quebec so much.
December 12:
It snowed last night.
We woke up this morning
to find out that everything had turned white.
Looks like a postcard.
We got out and we plowed the entrance steps.
We had a snowball fight
(I won)
and when the plow has passed,
we had to clear snow from the driveway again.
What a nice place. I love Quebec.
December 18:
Still snow last night.
That's wonderful!
The plow has played its little farce on us again in the entrance.
I love Quebec so much.
December 19:
Still snow last night.
I couldn't get out of my yard to go to work.
I'm exhausted from shoveling.
Cr .... of plow.
December 21:
He fell from the white must again last night.
I have blisters in my hands from shoveling.
I believe the plow guy is hiding around the corner
and wait until I finish shoveling.
The dog ...
December 25th:
More snow ...... snow.
If I ever get my hand on the dog's ..... dog driving the plow,
I'm going to make a ho .... butt on the elbows.
I do not understand why not put it
more calcium on the roads to melt the cr .... of ice.
December 27:
More white mustard last night.
It's been three days since we went out
except to shovel the ta ...... entry each time the ca .... of dirty
passes with his ho .... plow.
We can't go anywhere
the chariot is caught in a mountain of ca ...... white mustard.
The weather guy says it's going to drop another 10 inches tonight.
December 28:
The cr .... of innocent weather forecast was wrong.
We had 24 inches of the cap ..... white mard.
If it continues like this, it won't be melted until August.
The plow got stuck in the snow bank on the road
and the ho .... disgusting who drives her came knocking
home to ask if he could borrow my shovel!
After telling him that I had already been through
six shovels to shovel all the waste he had pushed me into the entrance,
I broke the seventh there on the head ....
December 30:
We ended up leaving the house today.
We went to the store to buy something to eat
and on the way back a cap ..... of deer stepped in front of the car and I hit it.
I have $ 3000 in damage.
Cr .... deer.
How come the ho ... of hunters
did not kill them all in November ???
1st May:
I took the car to the garage in town.
There is always a lot of cr ..... of limits.
The tank ta ...... is all rusty
because of the h ..... of calcium they put everywhere on the roads.
May 30:
We moved to Florida.
I can't understand that there are quite innocent people
to want to live in a cr .... of hell like Quebec
Moved from Minnesota to Arizona in June during the hottest summer ever and even after experiencing that I never want to live somewhere cold again. Shoveling your driveway sucks. Get too much snow? Now you need to get it off your roof before it gets too heavy. Driving on ice is horrible. Other people driving on ice is terrifying. The only time snow is cool is during the holidays. I can drive up to the mountains for a week and then be right back in the warm weather.
There's nothing to be jealous about. It's fun to watch the snow fall, but just about every other aspect of it is shit, especially if you have somewhere to be.
In the PDX area, we only get significant snow events once or twice a decade, so nobody here really knows how to drive in it. When you combine that with the usual pattern we get where snow falls, melts during the day and then freezes overnight, creating sheets of ice on the roads, It makes driving nearly impossible, especially in the hillier parts of town. Even before the ice comes, if more than an inch of snow falls, the lack of skill in driving in snow means that 30 minute commutes can take 4-5 hours, and some people just leave their cars stranded on the sides of the freeways.
After that, everything gets slushy, the snow gets dirty as the gravel mixes in and car tires mix dirt and gunk from the road surface into the slushy mess, which makes huge, cold, wet dirty slushy puddles that are a pain to walk through and get kicked up by buses and cars onto people on the sidewalks.
I like watching snow fall, but I can do without huge amounts of accumulation. Give me nice, sunny weather over snow any day.
In the PDX area, we only get significant snow events once or twice a decade, so nobody here really knows how to drive in it. When you combine that with the usual pattern we get where snow falls, melts during the day and then freezes overnight, creating sheets of ice on the roads, It makes driving nearly impossible, especially in the hillier parts of town. Even before the ice comes, if more than an inch of snow falls, the lack of skill in driving in snow means that 30 minute commutes can take 4-5 hours, and some people just leave their cars stranded on the sides of the freeways.
After that, everything gets slushy, the snow gets dirty as the gravel mixes in and car tires mix dirt and gunk from the road surface into the slushy mess, which makes huge, cold, wet dirty slushy puddles that are a pain to walk through and get kicked up by buses and cars onto people on the sidewalks.
I like watching snow fall, but I can do without huge amounts of accumulation. Give me nice, sunny weather over snow any day.
Yup. Grew up in Colorado and couldn't wait to get out for these exact reasons. Texas and Cali have been much kinder to me. Zero desire to live in that climate again. Good for a visit though.
Snow storms were cool when snow days existed. Now they are just a nuisance.
For example, back in '98 we had a vicious storm that snowed us in for days. I used that to not have to work and play through my Christmas present that year, Ocarina of Time.
Now I just have to shovel in between meetings.
For example, back in '98 we had a vicious storm that snowed us in for days. I used that to not have to work and play through my Christmas present that year, Ocarina of Time.
Now I just have to shovel in between meetings.
As a lifelong Seattle native, you can have our snow. We lack the infrastructure to handle it and the majority of the city is on a hill which makes things even more fun.
My father-in-law was out here from Nebraska for our last big snowstorm in 2019 and he helped me shovel the sidewalks. He said our snow consistency is way worse than what they get in the Midwest and finally understood why everything shuts down out here.
My father-in-law was out here from Nebraska for our last big snowstorm in 2019 and he helped me shovel the sidewalks. He said our snow consistency is way worse than what they get in the Midwest and finally understood why everything shuts down out here.
This is for real. Not to mention that the weather swings back and forth so good luck with the melted ice after shoveling if you didn't use salt.
It's been a pretty crappy winter in the Rockies as far as skiing goes. Would've liked a little more snow myself.
If snow were a living thing I'd beat it to death with a shovel.
I spent 3 winters in Tahoe and a -20 winter in Wyoming, yeah I'll take that, I enjoy it! Then again I'm a high level skier and I don't mind managing mid level snow. Then again my preference is mid way up a mountain in the 6000-7000 ft area so it's a few minutes to the good stuff but only a couple days or a week or two of heavy stuff at my place
I don't really think it's the consistency. The snow here is similar to what we usually got back on the east coast...heavy and wet mostly. I think the hills are definitely one of the biggest issues out here when it comes to snow. Well that and infrastructure as you mention with lack of plows and salt trucks. Temps usually never stay too cold during the day and you will get some melting then it will freeze overnight and cars are just sliding down hills.
I hate California for this too. There is no fall here either. It usually will still be in the 80s by October. Sometimes 90s. November can be in the 70s. Then it will hit the 50s until January until some bullshit high pressure system comes rolling in heating it all up again. It never fails to happens. It can easily get above 110 here in the summer and its just too hot to do anything. Its pure suffering. Its not fun living in CA. It never fucking rains here. Not enough by far not enough. I despise hot weather. Absolutely despise it. I refuse to leave the house unless its either dark or with cloud coverage. Screw the sun. Screw California. I HATE it here. And im stuck here. Fuck this state.
East Coast Era represent! FUCKING FINALLY we're getting a decent winter here(SW CT) last couple of winter were extremely mild and well below our average in amount of snow.
Yea, having to break all the ice frozen over my car, and shovel it out, in windy 10 degree weather is so fun.
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Lived in MN all my life, I'm 34. Thinking about moving out of this state, just can't stand the weather anymore.
Lol, nothing pisses people off in cold climates more than someone who comes for a week, says how nice it is to see some cold and then leaves while they're stuck in -25 weather for another 3 months.
Having said that, I hate LA/California and can't wait to move back to Canada when it's practical for me.