Not sure what this has to do with what I posted. Justifying a subscription by rolling it into another subscription doesn't make sense to me.
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If you subscribed to PS+ / Xbox Live Gold at the start of this generation, you'll have paid $420 by the time the new consoles arrive
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Not sure what this has to do with what I posted. Justifying a subscription by rolling it into another subscription doesn't make sense to me.
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It's weird to look at the 4K consoles as a mandatory upgrade. It's not like Xbox Ones stopped getting games
Ahhh we are getting into the overall price of everything. Got it.
As I said before I only have Gold because of the $1 Ultimate deal, I'm not paying for either as a stand alone product.
They originally "justified" the services in the first place by rolling in some "free games" in with it.
My main reason for subscribing on PS3 was the free games and I guess it still is because I don't play any games that require PS+.
Although, for convenience I'm now practically locked into PS+ for cloud saves.
Although, for convenience I'm now practically locked into PS+ for cloud saves.
I've had PS+ and XBL Gold since day 1. I also have that Switch online sub. $420 over a 7 year period isn't that crazy. How many hobbies are there that are cheaper over a 7 year period? That's like a dime a day... Does anyone here golf? Hell, I went axe throwing the other day and that was $50. I'll easily do that 10 times by 2027
I never payed more than 42 for a year. So after 7 years it should be 294. Still a lot, but meh, I got some cool games. But definitely not worth it for my use case. I just use it for some asynchronous online games like Death Stranding and Dark Souls.
I haven't paid full price for Xbox Live Gold in over 7 years. You can always find discounts for both Xbox Live Gold and PlayStation Plus.
Oh we had another chance to stop it. The chance was at E3 2013 and everyone blew it. But I'm to blame as much as anyone else. I fell for that trojan horse of PS Plus too. Already subbing anyway so no need to revolt. What a fool.
people are really bringing up the money they "saved" with ps+ discounts, do you not realize a game on ps+ discount is still sold about the same price as when the same game is on sale on other platforms?
i really doubt most people paid full price all this time
my last three years of gold were all on sub 10R$ deals
my last three years of gold were all on sub 10R$ deals
Same here and since launch. Honestly, the games that came with plus have given me more than enough entertainment to make up for it. If I look at my usual metric of $1 per hour of fun, it has paid for itself in spades with the free games.
Just looking at the PS4 games list I or the family have really enjoyed Resogun, Dead Nation, Infamous, Transistor, Rocket League, Helldivers, Rebel Galaxy, The Deadly Tower of Monsters, Stories, LBP 3, ABZU, Tales from Borderlands, Life is Strange, Until Dawn, AC Freedom Cry, Deus Ex, Rime, Bloodborne, Trackmania, Rayman, Xcom 2, Destiny 2, GOW 3, Onrush, Steep, the Witness, Detroit, Wipeout, Sniper Elite, Arkham Knight, Titanfall 2. Not to mention it also gave away games I had already played on PS or PC like TLOU, Ratchet, Mad Max and Borderlands. And all this not including PS3 games for that console.
I am not a latest and greatest all the time gamer, so I always have a sizeable backlog, so to me playing something 2-3 years after release is the rule not the exception.
I don't pay for entire years or even extended periods of time in general, but the times I have had PS+ has led me to discover some of my favorite experiences of the generation. Games that I never would have played if it wasn't for PS+. You don't have to enjoy it yourself, but it's pretty condescending looking down at people for buying into these services for the games.
I finally let my PS+ lapse for the first time since it launched. I think the value for the service tanked hard this past year. I don't play many online games on my PS4 anymore and the free offerings were not good compared to how cheap some of the games are in a sale.
Both insignificant over the course of 7 years so yea I agree.
Subscription wasn't 60 bucks to begin with, plus you can pretty easily get 12 month ps plus for 40 dollars.
And 400 dollars over 7 years are much？2019's ps plus free games are more than $400 value.
And 400 dollars over 7 years are much？2019's ps plus free games are more than $400 value.
Didn't sub when it started until they introduced free games into it and I let it lapse for a time. PS+ started at $50 and didn't hike up to $60 until years later. Pretty sure most people have gotten PS+ on sale and doubt anyone paid full price. The game offerings have been pretty lacking, so little reason to keep it.
Seems fine to me. Gaming is my primary downtime hobby, and primarily I'm gaming on Xbox and PC (Switch when I'm gaming with the kid, PlayStation rarely - I had a subscription but dropped it). So the only gaming service I'm subscribed to is Game Pass Ultimate / $15 a month.
I reckon I'd game for say three hours a day, five days a week - so a dollar an hour (minus cost of hardware, peripherals and electricity...).
That's an absolute bargain as far as hobby expenditure goes as far as I'm concerned. I'll spend $3 without thinking on a cup of coffee that lasts five minutes... I'm sure not complaining about a dollar for an hour of gaming.
I reckon I'd game for say three hours a day, five days a week - so a dollar an hour (minus cost of hardware, peripherals and electricity...).
That's an absolute bargain as far as hobby expenditure goes as far as I'm concerned. I'll spend $3 without thinking on a cup of coffee that lasts five minutes... I'm sure not complaining about a dollar for an hour of gaming.
I've been paying ~25$/year for XBLG thanks to having some freinds who work for Microsoft.
At that price it's difficult to complain considering all the free games I've got over that period of time. That doesn't even include all the money I saved by converting that to gamepass for 1$ and playing a bunch of games that I would have normally paid for in some capacity.
Having said that, if I wasn't forced to pay to play online, I probably wouldn't have an Xbox live gold membership at this time. The free games/deals are not enough of a draw for even the price that I pay.
At that price it's difficult to complain considering all the free games I've got over that period of time. That doesn't even include all the money I saved by converting that to gamepass for 1$ and playing a bunch of games that I would have normally paid for in some capacity.
Having said that, if I wasn't forced to pay to play online, I probably wouldn't have an Xbox live gold membership at this time. The free games/deals are not enough of a draw for even the price that I pay.
I've played well over $1,000 in Gamepass games alone already, and probably the same for regular XBLG/PS+ games. $400 for the whole generation doesn't actually seem too bad.
If you paid $400 for the generation that's like paying for a whole extra console just to play online. How's that not bad?
$400 to play easily over $1,000 worth of games is a good deal in my eyes. Also, I usually only pay $40/year since they are always on sale. With Gamepass, I've paid $130 for the last two years and from now until April 2022. I started a list, and I think I'm over $1,300 in games played on that service alone. Some people don't mind paying a subscription to get a really good value on games played.
Gamepass is obviously worth but the Games with Gold? They've been mostly terrible for ages now.
Hmm. Assume a;
Console costs $330
65" OLED TV costs $1,750
A year of game service subscription cost $180
If you gamed for 15 hours a week, over say three years (give or take a few weeks off) - that total setup is only ~$1.16 per hour.
When I look at just about any other hobby I enjoy, nothing beats the per-hour value of gaming, doesn't even come close.
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Even if you wanted to buy a new console at launch for one game - say you're a completionist that wants to buy a theoretical God of War PS5 remastered edition;
$500 for the console
$60 for a game.
Say 55 hours of entertainment.
That's still only $10.20 an hour.
Everyone's idea of how far $1 goes will vary depending on circumstance, but again, I'd say that extreme example still equals a better hourly value than most other things I spend money on...
Console costs $330
65" OLED TV costs $1,750
A year of game service subscription cost $180
If you gamed for 15 hours a week, over say three years (give or take a few weeks off) - that total setup is only ~$1.16 per hour.
When I look at just about any other hobby I enjoy, nothing beats the per-hour value of gaming, doesn't even come close.
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Even if you wanted to buy a new console at launch for one game - say you're a completionist that wants to buy a theoretical God of War PS5 remastered edition;
$500 for the console
$60 for a game.
Say 55 hours of entertainment.
That's still only $10.20 an hour.
Everyone's idea of how far $1 goes will vary depending on circumstance, but again, I'd say that extreme example still equals a better hourly value than most other things I spend money on...
Huh really? So discount without PS+ membership is worse than on other platforms? Lol if true
I used to subscribe for the "free" games but I never played them so I quit a few years ago. I don't really play anything with online functionality these days either.
The HZD rumours made me take the time to work out (roughly of course) how much I've spent on Playstation since PS1. It was quite the fucking shock :(
who pays full price?
I don't think I've ever paid more than around 1/2 price for either Gold/ PS+/ Gamepass
I don't think I've ever paid more than around 1/2 price for either Gold/ PS+/ Gamepass
If PS plus didn't exist then the "Plus discount" would have probably been the normal discount anyway.
I'm glad I was able to get PSN codes on sale for most of the gen....
And I've actually played a bunch of the games
Would be awesome if it was free but I doubt that happens
And I've actually played a bunch of the games
Would be awesome if it was free but I doubt that happens
