It's right there in the OP, Sony gets the rights to do CGI films based on Marvel's other properties.
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I think it's time for Sony and Marvel to negotiate a new deal
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It's right there in the OP, Sony gets the rights to do CGI films based on Marvel's other properties.
Unless this is a new revelation, that wasn't what was reported by Variety.
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Nevermind, reading furture there's clauses put in for financial performance
Sony would honestly be crazy not to renew their current deal. While Spider-Man has a lot of characters in it's universe, you only do so much with that world. If I were running Sony I would continue to make films like Venom and Spiderverse, but I would also renew the deal with Disney. Sony could be looking at having X-Men and Fantastic Four characters showing up in Spider-Man films.
Oh ok, I missed that part. Yeah I don't think they'll be interested.
Yep Sony would be stupid the turn away from the potential of a Wolverine appearance in a Spider-Man movie and that can only happen with Marvel Studios involved.
If I had to guess, the Fox deal probably makes Sony's decision a lot easier.
Sony has the rights to both right now. Why on earth would Sony make a deal to lose the bigger of the two series, especially when they already have easy hits with Marvel making the mainline films for them? You're asking them to give up a cash cow for animated films you yourself knows won't ever come close to filling the loss in profits.
That's straight up incorrect. Sony fully financed the film like they have done on all the Spider-Man films. Marvel was essentially a production house similar to Bad Robot's work on the Star Wars films. Homecoming is 100% a Sony Pictures film. Now when the movie achieved certain benchmarks in gross, Marvel got extra performance based payments sent their way. But that's not profit sharing.
I think so too. This could play out well for Sony if they play their cards right. Not only Wolverine, but we could finally have that Human Torch and Spidey team up we've always wanted.
But they'd get to make way more animated films to make up for that loss. Maybe even 3 films per year once their pipeline gets going. Their schedule right now is one Spider-Man film every year, one produced with Marvel and one produced in-house, if Marvel makes an attractive revenue sharing offer for the mainline Spider-Man films, it could be a net gain for Sony.
We don't even have any idea how spiderverse will do vs say homecoming
More like Sony gets the vast majority of the profits which is the point they'd be down right stupid to give those movie rights up. The balls entirely in their court. Marvels out their giving Sony free money while they have full reign with the rest of the IP movie wise, which they have also have marvel make movies for them to reap the profits off if they want and people think sony would want to give that up? Come on now unless Marvel outright buys them they ain't giving it up.
Not now they aren't. Same thing was true about Fox until last year.
Whether it takes 5 years, 10 years, 15 years or 20 years, Marvel Studios will fully own the movie rights to Spider-Man.
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That's a lot of prognostication. Disney didn't buy Fox because of the Marvel rights. You might eb right, you might not, but you haven't put an argument forward.
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Sony can keep those rights as long as I get my Spider-Man 2099 movie.
... I just want my futuristic live action superhero film.
... I just want my futuristic live action superhero film.
Monopoly. Another word like anti-consumer that has lost ALL meaning here.
Jumanji made more money than Spiderman Homcoming and has a sequel out next year. They also have Hotel Transylvania ($1B+ franchise), MIB ($1B+ franchise with a new movie coming out starring Marvel stars), James Bond ($10B+ franchise where the last 2 installments made nearly $2B). They're doing ok.
Homecoming was only successful because it was done by Marvel and not Sony or their meddling suits who know nothing about the character.
Remember there was a reason why Sony decided to let Marvel make the Spider-Man movies.
Venom is looking great.
The Spidey animation movie is looking great.
Homecoming was a success, even if it wasn't 100% handled by Sony.
God knows we wouldn't have gotten a movie soley focused on Venom if Marvel was in control.
It is looking like they're turning things around.
I see no reason for Sony to give the IP back. Nor would I really want them too.
The Spidey animation movie is looking great.
Homecoming was a success, even if it wasn't 100% handled by Sony.
God knows we wouldn't have gotten a movie soley focused on Venom if Marvel was in control.
It is looking like they're turning things around.
I see no reason for Sony to give the IP back. Nor would I really want them too.
No Sony made homecoming. That is why they had to pay RDJ a shit load of money to be in the film. It was payed for and made by Sony with marvel producing.
I do agree that Marvel should get more into animation. I guess it might be tricky to explain how any animated movies ARENT in the MCU since it is so popular, but still...
I would absolutely love a mature X-Men animated series.
I would absolutely love a mature X-Men animated series.
Maybe I am missing something but I just opened the Venom trailer here on Youtube and it is sitting at 67 million views right now...
The new trailer got 15 million in 24 hours...
And the overall sentiment we can see reading the comments and public hype is 99% positive from the mainstream.
The new trailer got 15 million in 24 hours...
And the overall sentiment we can see reading the comments and public hype is 99% positive from the mainstream.
movie is looking fun, no surprise.
Venom is a cool character too.
But Fox was selling their movie and television divisions regardless.
What's there to argue?
You argue your premise. Especially if you're saying 'well maybe in two decades'. I could just as easily say taht it's self evidend that Sony will get the rights after they are bought up by comcast who buys Disney. Even in the event that Sony sells ever, why would it not be another company that buys them.
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Marvel animations suck, have you seen their TV stuff? They killed Sony's spectacular Spider-Man (which was the best SM cartoon ever) after the TV rights were transferred back to Marvel for their abomination of a show, this is why this deal makes sense for both sides.
Nah, keep Sony away any other Marvel property.
I wish folks like this would actually come back to the thread and discuss why they think this a monopoly.
If you read the leaked emails. Sony asked around for like a couple billion dollars for the Spider-Man rights. I think they settled on two BILLION. This was when they were planning all those Amazing Spider-Man movies and were planing a Amazing Spider-Man vs Spider-Man movie. But then that went down the toilet so they made this deal with Marvel.
Here's the image. THEY WANTED 5 BILLION DOLLARS just for the rights and they still wanted to make all those horrible ideas like the Gwen Stacy Carnage movie.
Here's the image. THEY WANTED 5 BILLION DOLLARS just for the rights and they still wanted to make all those horrible ideas like the Gwen Stacy Carnage movie.
I will never get tired of these crazy ass Sony emails. It's literally if they picked up a handful of Resetera users and put them in charge of Sony franchises. It's so fucking wild.
Here's the image. THEY WANTED 5 BILLION DOLLARS just for the rights and they still wanted to make all those horrible ideas like the Gwen Stacy Carnage movie.
WTH
- Emma Stone as Carnage
- Tatum as Venom
- They Actually wanted to replicate the MCU plan ( IW P1, IW P2 ) to make their event movies on two parts
- Andrew vs Tobey WHATTTTT
- ASM 3 as an animated movie that when they knew they screwed their franchise
If only Sony let Sam Raimi keep on making Spider-man movies.
So he can make a new SpiderMan movies where MJ always getting kidnapped
Or we get a new Tobey scene where he's doing that Fortnite's dance
Planet Earth? Homecoming was a coproduction between Columbia (Sony) and Marvel Studios, which means that Sony and Marvel made Homecoming together.
As long as Arad is still in the business the Sony/Spidey Universe rump won
Anyways, Sony won't let go of those rights and they'll keep making weird Spidey spin offs as long as Avi Arad is still in the business.
Curiosity question: Can Sony use another Spider-Man that is not Peter Parker like Ben Reilly (Scarlet) or Miguel O'Hara (2099)? Obviously the latter can't happen...yet.
I am definitely in the wrong timeline if I didn't get the chance to see an Andrew v Tobey Spider-Man film XDHere's the image. THEY WANTED 5 BILLION DOLLARS just for the rights and they still wanted to make all those horrible ideas like the Gwen Stacy Carnage movie.
Anyways, Sony won't let go of those rights and they'll keep making weird Spidey spin offs as long as Avi Arad is still in the business.
Curiosity question: Can Sony use another Spider-Man that is not Peter Parker like Ben Reilly (Scarlet) or Miguel O'Hara (2099)? Obviously the latter can't happen...yet.
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You know how much it'd cost to buy all of Sony? Far more than what Spidey is worth and far more than what they are paying for Fox. And the majority of which is worthless to Disney, unlike Fox.
I don't think they will buy Sony, but they will just pay the release clause of the Spider-Man contract and retain everything.
Although hell, maybe they can buy Sony, Disney is nuts.
yeah i still can't get over that.
That would have been a massive money maker..
Sony bankrolled it and promoted it.
Anyone who believes they made any significant creative decisions for that movie is, well, lol
I highly doubt it, the role of a producer is to be involved with the creative process, they didn't just hand Jon Watts and the writing team a ton of money and said "Well, bye, we'll see you again at the promotional tour".
EDIT: Looking at Wikipedia, they were at least involved with casting, hiring the writers/director and the visual effects, so yeah...
This isn't even real, the sony pictures leak was in 2014 and this email doesn't appear on the wikileaks sony pictures leak site.Here's the image. THEY WANTED 5 BILLION DOLLARS just for the rights and they still wanted to make all those horrible ideas like the Gwen Stacy Carnage movie.
Marvel owning the rights to something they created is not a monopoly.