I usually don't mind fantastical character designs, especially in a fantasy setting. But the designs in this game are silly. Having guest artists design some of character was a mistake, it created that inconsistent look.
I like how she shares the exact same design idea as Morag, but the designer went about the exact opposite way of how she was designed.
on paper, having a bunch of guest artists coming in to do character/creature design sounds rad!
but then this happens
it's honestly really hit and miss. And when it misses, it misses hard.
This is pretty interesting. The artist was clearly thinking about the design more than just hurr durr big boobs. I think a lot of the blades have pretty interesting design touches if you read their lore or do their side quests. There's a lot of visual communication going on this game, and even though I understand anime at it's core is repulsive to some people (and of course the OTT female bodies and leery camera) but I think there's a lot of interesting design work in this game.
I do wonder how much of Pyra and Mythra's look was based on being "The Holy Grail but an Anime Girl" but I'm no scholar.
My problem is when BREASTS is a major design decision in and of itself to some extent. Games have hardly dressed female characters as practical or comfortable with these looks, and often RELISH that exaggeration (or so as not to ""body shame"", but all seemingly coincidentally having giant jugs that are "made" to fit into the camera)
Literally so much of it exists, not for the fun and wackiness design of it all, but to exploit women's bodies for a specific target audience in mind. You can play coy and say it's out of "creativity" or "artistic choice", and sure some sexiness can be fun and appealing, but the fact remains it's an often one-sided design decision that affects one gender more often and takes advantage of their appearance to the point it affects them on real and personal levels.
And cmon
Can you honestly say boobs are like any other part of the body??? Do we fetishize arms or legs at ALL the way we fetishize breasts? You're just being naive if you really see NO other part to why this bothers some people, it doesn't matter if you have tits or not.
And cmon
Can you honestly say boobs are like any other part of the body??? Do we fetishize arms or legs at ALL the way we fetishize breasts? You're just being naive if you really see NO other part to why this bothers some people, it doesn't matter if you have tits or not.
And some terribly written parts of the story, at least as far as I played
Cause a vocal minority are jealous that it's the most successfully Monolithsoft game in their history and could be the template used for all future blockbusters they produce. Anger is often driven by fear. It's okay though, people can express differing opinions and make a lot of noise, but it won't have any impact on anything.Ouch, I know the designs in the game are definitely not great, but why does Xeno 2 seem to always get roasted on a regular basis on this forum..
Overblown does not mean there aren't bad designs and design choices. I do think boobs are too big on some blades. Even Pyra and Mythra's official concept art don't have boobs as big as their game models have and they'd look much better that way. The boobs also just look weird the way they are.Horrible excuse and hardly overblown from a lot of evidence in this thread already. Here's 3 more where fabric does things it never normally does
(I think it's like some sort of bubble-latex getting squeezed by black straps cuz....____????)
Battle underwear and an incomplete magic bra!
No idea how the middle part does that...does it suction to her tits? Is it transparent all (ALL) the way down??? This is such a unique design, it really didnt need the maximum-level of cleavage going on here, nor does it fit the character at all.
Right....So...go on.
People are actually really tsundere for XC2.Ouch, I know the designs in the game are definitely not great, but why does Xeno 2 seem to always get roasted on a regular basis on this forum..
Oh yes. It is so far below Nintendo's standards, much less the standards of the series, that it is impossible not to trash the game at every chance I get.People are actually really tsundere for XC2.
Just ask yourself: If you show up to every XC2 thread to express your thoughts, without fail, do you really hate it?
Overblown does not mean there aren't bad designs and design choices. I do think boobs are too big on some blades. Even Pyra and Mythra's official concept art don't have boobs as big as their game models have and they'd look much better that way. The boobs also just look weird the way they are.
Blades are basically hardlight holographic projections of computer AIs. Apart from special cases like Flesheaters and Blade-eaters, Blades only conform to the physical world when they want to. They can't even be physically harmed. While it's certainly fine to object to how they look, the realism aspect of their designs is not an especially strong position since they're not even "real" in the world of the game.
Praxis is a water blade. The orbs and netting give an impression of water droplets. The straps on her chest don't seem to be tight though or squeezing anything and are holding her breastplates on. The top under them is too form-fitting, though. Hell, they might even be made of water; it's hard to tell.
I just noticed that the breastplates are basically the opposite of her eyepatch. She has and X shaped patch covering her left eye and eye-shaped patches covering her breasts.
Zenobia is a gender-bent version of the Japanese wind god Fujin:
The "bra" is a magical wind sack.
Brighid's hair, boots, and gloves are made of fire. Her dress is pretty elegant like something a celebrity would wear to a party or an awards and she does consider herself a celebrity and has a hangup about not being as famous as Mythra.
I'm not condoning Tora's behavior; I'm saying in a lot of cases, due to his upbringing and due to being a kid and a Nopon, he is unaware that his ideas of how he and others should be acting are not normal. He is called out on it and burned both figuratively and literally.
Cause a vocal minority are jealous that it's the most successfully Monolithsoft game in their history and could be the template used for all future blockbusters they produce. Anger is often driven by fear. It's okay though, people can express differing opinions and make a lot of noise, but it won't have any impact on anything.
Cause a vocal minority are jealous that it's the most successfully Monolithsoft game in their history and could be the template used for all future blockbusters they produce. Anger is often driven by fear. It's okay though, people can express differing opinions and make a lot of noise, but it won't have any impact on anything.
Oh yes. It is so far below Nintendo's standards, much less the standards of the series, that it is impossible not to trash the game at every chance I get.
In fact, trashing this piece of trash at every opportunity gives me far more enjoyment then I ever got from playing this terrible game.
Like this post. Frankly, a lot of the points of that first post you're replying to read to me like drinking the Kool-Aid, and it distresses me because it comes off like designers can do really egregious stuff consistently in a game that isn't even meant to be pornographic as long as they have the flimsiest most hollow explanation/design inspiration. Of COURSE that one design is super scantily clad, it's based on a Japanese wind god and there was no way to represent that that wasn't a mostly naked woman fighting in her underwear!None of what you're saying is helpful to excuse the incredible lengths some of the designs go to sexualize women, so I'm not sure what you're trying to explain. Magical wind sacks or literal-water-filled-balloons doesn't address why NONE ZERO NADA ZIP of the male designs are even HALF as egregious as one of the tamer female designs.
lol shame they never went for a design based more on this, then maybe we'd have a really unique female design for once/
I'm sad (not jealous) that my favourite game series has little interest in how it depicts my sex as anything other than ridiculous looking most of the time.
Cause a vocal minority are jealous that it's the most successfully Monolithsoft game in their history and could be the template used for all future blockbusters they produce. Anger is often driven by fear. It's okay though, people can express differing opinions and make a lot of noise, but it won't have any impact on anything.
Cause a vocal minority are jealous that it's the most successfully Monolithsoft game in their history and could be the template used for all future blockbusters they produce. Anger is often driven by fear. It's okay though, people can express differing opinions and make a lot of noise, but it won't have any impact on anything.
I respect where you're coming from with this reply and it's very thoughtful, but you make it sound like a female artist can't make an exploitative design meant primarily for the male gaze and the objectification of the female character being designed. They can, and do.
PS - I think your post is formatted incorrectly.
Cause a vocal minority are jealous that it's the most successfully Monolithsoft game in their history and could be the template used for all future blockbusters they produce. Anger is often driven by fear. It's okay though, people can express differing opinions and make a lot of noise, but it won't have any impact on anything.
As I am not a woman, I find that distinction hard to make and honestly despite my point you're probably more qualified to make a judgement call on something like that. The reason why I think XC2 specifically is not an example of that with Dahlia is because the game is absolutely lousy with similar designs that were not produced by women and it makes it seem as though the game has an agenda that is not in line with the sort of empowerment that's possible with female-derived designs that look like this. Having gone through some scenes to try to get a better idea what the game is doing, the camera seems voyeuristically positioned and the girls and women in the game typically not in control of or even aware of the eyes on them.There are true examples of that, but then how do you, in your opinion, tell the difference between "I'm a woman who drew this because it's what I genuinely wanted to draw" and "I'm a woman that was pressured into drawing this"?
Fixed, thanks.
People are actually really tsundere for XC2.
Just ask yourself: If you show up to every XC2 thread to express your thoughts, without fail, do you really hate it?
the game making people angry is a feature, not a bug. its been several years now since release and you can still get much entertainment out of itOuch, I know the designs in the game are definitely not great, but why does Xeno 2 seem to always get roasted on a regular basis on this forum..
I'm sad (not jealous) that my favourite game series has little interest in how it depicts my sex as anything other than ridiculous looking most of the time because I've never been considered its target audience. And Im sad the industry has to "fight" for respectable designs to which male designs are often always afforded by default.
I feel like if I can't play it with all my family members in the room, then it's probably too much. That's my way to gauge it. My sister always loves walking in and reading along when I play RPGs ever since we were kids. She walked in on this:
And angrily told the game to Fuck Off. This was a first and kinda shows how bad it is. I really didn't care much to continue after that.
Yeah people are definitely gonna be surprised when they see certain characters jiggling in full HD.It's also really on here and sometimes fun to read some opinions. The best posts are those saying that some horny dude designed XY character, but it was a woman that did that. This thread is better though because we have someone in here explaining some designs which is interesting. Otherwise other communities don't have a problem with the game. The best people are those that complain about XC2 and then say that XC1 was so much better in that regard like...have you played your own favourite game? Yeah some designs are trash, but some are also really great and the villains have top tier design.
I'm sad (not jealous) that my favourite game series has little interest in how it depicts my sex as anything other than ridiculous looking most of the time because I've never been considered its target audience. And Im sad the industry has to "fight" for respectable designs to which male designs are often always afforded by default.