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How do you bring Magneto into the MCU? (He'd be very old with his origin)
- Thread starter T002 Tyrant
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Love this angle but it will never happen. Maybe give us a multi verse version with this backstory
My favorite thing is when they go "no it's fine we'll make him a different minority so it's fine right? It's like a point system right?"
Because his power is over magnetism, not metal. You could have him manipulate the metals in his body to do something funky that slows his aging.
Also I agree. The takes where people think Mags should just no longer be Jewish and be subbed with another oppressed group are super bizarre
So if we merge all the suggestions, might as well make him a former Black slave who survived slavery in the US. He's like 200 years old but has very slow ageing.
Can even have Magneto was friends with an Eternal who gave him the gift of long life.
Feige will figure it out.
Feige will figure it out.
You have to keep the Holocaust part. If you don't, there's no point.
You either A. Have him slowly age as part of his mutation which is like, not at all complex and the easiest option
B. Have hydra put him on ice, gets out, Xavier uses his powers to try to heal his mind and have them be at peace with one another. Then the movie opens up with dodc killing some mutant kids, and the x-men were too late to stop it. Fully radicalizing Magneto for the movie.
You either A. Have him slowly age as part of his mutation which is like, not at all complex and the easiest option
B. Have hydra put him on ice, gets out, Xavier uses his powers to try to heal his mind and have them be at peace with one another. Then the movie opens up with dodc killing some mutant kids, and the x-men were too late to stop it. Fully radicalizing Magneto for the movie.
A slow aging secondary power would work because it doesn't really make him any more powerful, and it's not like it totally upends what makes Magneto what he is.
The most it gives him is an advantage in accumulated knowledge over time, but he's already depicted as a genius in multiple disciplines anyway (like a hundred other characters). If anything it actually gives him a good reason for being that erudite. It's not like he really has to have a healing factor alongside it or something like that, since they can easily come up with any other explanation.
The most it gives him is an advantage in accumulated knowledge over time, but he's already depicted as a genius in multiple disciplines anyway (like a hundred other characters). If anything it actually gives him a good reason for being that erudite. It's not like he really has to have a healing factor alongside it or something like that, since they can easily come up with any other explanation.
I'll echo the sentiment that he should age slower. Multiverse stuff just overcomplicates things.
I see what you are saying but I think that sort of disproves your entire point. Xavier showing up in MoM was a big deal to the audience because they knew the actor.
A whole new Magento and Xavier from an alternate reality wouldn't have to same impact if just Planted in the MCU.
And in regards to the bolded. As a Marvel fan for 30+ years I don't get where you've gotten that idea.
We can go back even further. He could be a Jewish slave during the time of the pharaohs. You know who was also there? APOCALYPSE. ALSO KANG.
I would be surprised if this wasn't already a storyline somewhere in the Marvel canon.
Magneto is a South African apartheid survivor who meets Xavier while doing charity work in Isreal.
I don't want a version of Magneto from the multiverse either, but the other origin stories people are giving aren't any better. Another frozen Hydra super soldier? Nah, hard pass on that. Slow aging would be ok, but it still doesn't explain where the hell he's been the last 60+ years.
Strange is probably going to search his universe's Charles Xavier for some reason. The Xavier from the main universe will reveal he's been hiding all mutant activity in the world and locked Magneto and some mutant villains in some kind of prison. The snap made some of them escape.
Somehow 100 year old Magneto finds "MCU Lazarus Pit equivalent" or has some kind of "slow-age" secondary power.
Or Magneto could somehow use Apocalypse's rejuvenation chamber.
Or Magneto could find a mutant that can make him younger.
Somehow 100 year old Magneto finds "MCU Lazarus Pit equivalent" or has some kind of "slow-age" secondary power.
Or Magneto could somehow use Apocalypse's rejuvenation chamber.
Or Magneto could find a mutant that can make him younger.
I don't think making Magneto not jewish would really work.
Edit: What if all mutants aged slower than humans? Would be an easier way to explain no only Magneto, but any kind x-men hero/villain with some older background.
He could easily just have retreated from public life for a while and events in the recent MCU force him to come back into the limelight. Once the government starts targeting mutants he decides he's had enough and starts lashing out.
1) Let him be alive and a teen in the 40s.
2) He grows up to have a wife and kids
3) Some time in the 50s or 60s he gets captured by Hydra/Kree/whoever.
4) They can't contain him nor can they defeat him so they trap him in ice, or do something that causes him to be in stasis.
5) Cues to sometime in the present day. Magneto awakes and escapes.
6) Realised the world has moved on but Nazis are still around.
7) Tries to find his family but discovers they're all dead, except for a granddaughter, Wanda Maximoff.
2) He grows up to have a wife and kids
3) Some time in the 50s or 60s he gets captured by Hydra/Kree/whoever.
4) They can't contain him nor can they defeat him so they trap him in ice, or do something that causes him to be in stasis.
5) Cues to sometime in the present day. Magneto awakes and escapes.
6) Realised the world has moved on but Nazis are still around.
7) Tries to find his family but discovers they're all dead, except for a granddaughter, Wanda Maximoff.
I don't want a version of Magneto from the multiverse either, but the other origin stories people are giving aren't any better. Another frozen Hydra super soldier? Nah, hard pass on that. Slow aging would be ok, but it still doesn't explain where the hell he's been the last 60+ years
Sorry, but that's needlessly convoluted. That origin story would take half a movie(or show) all just to tie him to Scarlet Witch. Wanda is not a mutant anymore, so leave that out.
How could a Omega level mutant just easily retreat from life for 60+years?
He wouldn't be a supervillain to start. Something happens in the current era (aka: mutants being cracked down on, literally his number one pet peeve) that makes him realize humanity will never improve past the Holocaust without being forced.
Yes, exactly. So if that hasn't happened yet he has no reason to go nuts and start blowing shit up. There needs to be a moment where Erik realizes that it's happening again, and humanity learned nothing from the 40s, and that's the moment he chooses to punish the world. All you need is DODC overreaching inside a small mutant community and that's the spark.
I know, but unknown Holocaust
victim/superpowered mutant that appeared out of nowhere is much sillier tbh
They gotta be real fucking good at hiding, excuse my language. With all the other crazy shit in the MCU, you think they wouldn't know about mutants?
Until The Avengers seemingly no one knew aliens were a thing, Gods exist but we're just myths til Thor popped up,magic is still largely hidden, the world of fantasy style martial arts is hidden, etc.
They don't need to do half a movie. Could be a flashback montage.
Of course the easiest way is for him to be someone who ages slowly but then they might need to explain why he has been hiding of invisible for the past few decades anyway.
Whatever the case might be he has to keep his Jewish identity.
You didn't watch Captain Marvel did you lol? They knew about aliens since the late 80's/early 90's. Magic was not hidden, just know to a select few. The fact that mutants would have been around and NEVER been mentioned once is pretty farfetched even for the MCU.
They can literally do anything and explain it away with 'multiverse'
What does magneto have to do with Dustin?They are simply going to update his origins. Or they can find a way to bring a person from the 80's in our times, so the whole age thing wouldn't really matter.
Or they could just bring Dustin from Stranger Things in a few years, he would be perfect for the role.
(On a more serious note, it's going to be really hard for me to not see Magneto as some really agile person that can fucking jump on his prey in one second, thanks to Marvel vs Capcom).
It's a make believe world, the characters say what writers wrote for them. They didn't mention them because they didn't have the rights and it wasn't part of the plan back then in early MCU movies, lol.
They can just write themselves out of it somehow, hehe.
But please please, keep Mags Jewish and with the Holocaust background Marvel!
2 of these were not on Earth and the other 2 require intense training under groups/organisations dedicated to secrecy, sometimes with them being located in other dimensions.
Mutant powers, on the other hand, crop up at random across the globe in children and teenagers. It's just not even remotely close to being as believable that it could be kept secret for years. Better to have the X-Gene be "activated" by the Snap in most people's cases.
Not known as in the general populace doesn't know you can be a wizard with like a month of training or that Aliens pop up all the time on Earth. Just handwave it the same way they've done whenever they introduce something that should be widely known by everyone on Earth but isn't . Some nonsense about Xavier and Shield keeping it secret or some omega level mutant wiping everyone's memory.
I know that, but at least has to make sense in that world. What people are suggesting doesn't even make sense in the MCU.
obviously
tell me, are you trying to logically explain mutant powers over fundamental universal forces that make up our very universe?
Man, that's a bit of a stretch tbh. If that's the case, Fury would have had to go around using an entire race of superpowered individuals. With all the stuff that's happened you know crazy that would look?
I always thought they could just have Xavier and Magneto fight some villain that slowed their aging. Like a side effect of fighting Shadowking or maybe Apocalypse or Sinister does it.
I just don't think you can remove Magneto from his origin and it would be disrespectful to attach him to some updated tragedy that took place more recent. Like something off the wall like saying Nazi experiments in Argentina led to an undisclosed Holocaust… is disrespectful.
I highly doubt Marvel doesn't have Magneto in the right age context either.
Here's a scenario… Sinister combines their DNA with Logan and it makes them age slower, though not as slow as Logan. Sinister does it because they intrigue him and he wants them to live longer to experiment on them more…. He uses the same formula on himself of course. However Magneto and Xavier escape. However it's established early that Sinister, Logan, Magneto, Xavier, and Apocalypse are longer lived.
Crazy, but no crazier than him communicating for years with aliens and super powered beings who could destroy Earth. It's already a world wheee there's a whole universe that kind of just ignores Earth and even entire civilizations that ignore the outside world. If aliens , gods, magic, and Wakanda can be largely out of sight why not a few hundred mutants.
He has been on a drinking binge considering the world is just fucked up as ever if not more.
Also, all the "lets make this major Jewish character not Jewish" bits in the thread are offensive as hell.