I maybe redeem 25% of the games offered. Otherwise I end up worth more games than time to ever play them and they just clutter my library
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How bs is it that neither Games For Gold nor PS Plus auto redeem the "free" monthly titles to your account?
- Thread starter wafflebrain
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The point is, it could work like this. There really is no reason it shouldn't. You are the dude in the well of the "let's improve things somewhat" comic, going "you knew this when you signed up".
It's literally 2 clicks from the store frontpage to see all monthly games... Quite the process
Pretty sure it's because they pay the publishers of the games per redemption. So they'd pay out the nose for every single game if it was automatic.
Can anyone confirm this?
Can anyone confirm this?
You don't need the consoles to redeem the PS+ games to your account, OP. You unfortunately missed out on games you didn't need to miss out on by not using the webstore or app to redeem them.
That poster is getting some slack for their poor usage of it being anti-consumer which really torpedoes their argument.
The publishers have much less incentive to offer their games for free to play for subscribers if they make them available in perpetuity. I get that, but it undermines the benefit for them to offer them on the service.
It may be that for every game redeemed Sony and Microsoft have to pay the publisher an additional fee, so there's no point paying it when console users don't want the game. I now have many games in my library that i never want to play and never want to even look at the thumbnail again! I'm going to now be a lot more discerning with what I add to my library.
Well, you did knew this when you signed up lol.
They could improve this? Yes, will they? I don't know but saying it's anti consumer when you had all information available to you in disingenuous.
The PS+ monetization is under NDA, i don't think any developers or publishers have leaked the details publicly.
Multiple times I've clicked a PS+ link and had it ONLY try to sell me a PS+ sub which they know I already have. The games themselves had to be found elsewhere. Maybe that's been changed or maybe I've just learned since where to look for them, but they could easily be right there on the front page of the store.
But to be clear, overall, I'm not on the side of "just make it all automatic."
They could add a setting for it, but not everyone cares and they are probably fine with that. I honestly don't redeem them all the time because I don't want to him up my already cluttered library with games I won't ever play.
I would most likely turn it on and forget about it though.
I would most likely turn it on and forget about it though.
Eh, everyone that subscribes to those services is aware that free offers have an expiry date.
If you fail to redeem a million dollar lottery ticket before the expiry date, then the lottery is anti-consumer?
If you fail to redeem a million dollar lottery ticket before the expiry date, then the lottery is anti-consumer?
That's just false. You can check how many people actually have interest in those titles by the number of people adding those games to the library.
You might say "you could also check how many people started/downloaded the game" instead, but not really. I for example have a lot of redeemed games i never played/downloaded so far because of a lack of time but still I wanted them in my library for sometime later.
This of course is also important for the compensation for the devs
I think the only sub-service that does this is NSO NES and SNES games, because they're contained within apps.
Don't be silly.
This change would massively increase the cost of the programs for Sony and MS, most likely lowering the budget available to spend on the actual titles offered.
Yeah. I like convenience and accessibility but I tend to keep track of my active subscriptions. This never crossed my mind at all that its an issue how it is haha. Hop on my phone at any given moment then hit add. Probably never actually download them like I rarely do for Gold games.
I assume it's 1) to hope you forget, and 2) to get you to go into the store where you might find something else you're interested in buying.
How? If they gave an option to auto-add to your library they simply make it that only when you download the game are you considered to have redeemed it and pay dev.
Honestly I'm embaressed at the piling on in this thread. Sure the OP is being bit hyperbolic but having an option to set Plus/Live to auto-add titles to your library is hardly impacting anyone. If you want to pick and chose you leave it to off. If Sony/MS want that to be the default they do that and it's on you to set it to on. It's a simple change to then have downloading the game trigger actual redepmtion/payment.
It's not even changing anything anyhow. If OP manually added all titles to his libary it's the same end result as auto-add.
I can't speak to Live but the clear difference between simply putting something in your library vs downloading it should make it easy on Plus to support this. If you drop Plus they can always have it you loose access to games you haven't downloaded and merely added to your library if they want to encourage maintaining Plus and punish dropping it.
An auto-add should change nothing as it doesn't change what you can do yourself (for the record I always add everything to my library just in case so Sony owes me lot's of titles should I chose to play them. I'm happily building up a free PS5 library for when I eventually get one much later in the year too.
There's nothing blocking a simple option to enable this at all that I can see.
You subscribe knowing one of the perks is getting a game each month and you forget to check it? You don't even use your phone to add it in 5 seconds? Sorry you lost me
So that's why I have this U2 song the always auto plays whenever I connect my bluetooth earbuds! I never really looked into why I had that song in the first place, thought I redeemed it from somewhere lol
Adding the game to your library is your account acquiring the license. The publishers would need to be paid at that point.
Currently. Is there anything actually blocking changing T&Cs to download to another trigger?
I think they should have an option to add these games automatically. Then the people who don't want it won't complain. Seems quite simple.
The business model the publishers sign up for is one where their game is free to play for subscribers who claim it during the offer period. There are ramifications if the terms change for the publishers. The difference in a publisher making their game free to play for every subscriber vs just those who claim it manually is huge. It impacts their potential future sales. Even with an auto-redeem option, it's a huge difference in the benrfit for a publisher to allow their game on the service. With auto-redeem, it becomes a lot less attractive for publishers.
The trade-off for customers for more/better games is to manually add to their library. It would be one thing if Sony/MS put up unnecessary roadblocks to redemption, but that's not the case at all. They have dedicated sections on the web and console itself in multiple places that shows what games are available and you can claim them in a few clicks. It's reasonable.
Ask yourself this; would the same number of people be redeeming these licenses be the same or different with an auto-add feature in place even if it was just an option and even if the default was set to off and you had to opt-in? The answer is no, the numbers wouldn't be the same and there would be an increase in license redemption. An increase in license redemption means an increase in cost to Sony. In order it to be the same end result, it would have to mean that there is no change in the number of redemptions. The reason people want auto-add is because they might be forgetting to redeem them which means it's not the same end result when you look at the total number of redemptions.
I have multiple friends that would hate this. They don't redeem any of the games some months and don't want it to fill up their library cause they will legit never play them. I'm of the mind that if it's on PS+ or Xbox GWG I'm adding it my library and trying it out. I do see why there's no option even though I'd love it.
On PS5 you have a PS+ app. And the games are literally together on the front page.
Eww, no. I'm in favor of an option to turn it on for those folks that want it, but I don't want all these garbage titles cluttering my lists. The only thing I'm getting in March between the two services is Metal Slug 3, and I'd really rather not have the rest of this stuff sitting around. Yeah, I could "hide" them, but that's effort I could just be using to redeem them if I wanted them in the first place.
How many minutes do you have in a month? For less than 5 minutes is too much to claim your free games?
Look I procrastinated and missed out on Bugsnax but that is my fault.
Look I procrastinated and missed out on Bugsnax but that is my fault.
It's really annoying and a massive pain point. I get that on both fronts you can claim the games from a variety of platforms, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a key marketted bonus of the subscription service and haivng to manually claim them before the offer expires or risk missing the chance to get what you paid for is really annoying. Sadly it's a trend now and it's been normalized so I don't forsee it changing
Does any one know if either service doesn't give you back access to the claimed Games once you renew your membership again after having let it expire? I get that you lose access if your membership isn't active but I'm curious if the lapse between renewal wipes what you had acquired over time
Does any one know if either service doesn't give you back access to the claimed Games once you renew your membership again after having let it expire? I get that you lose access if your membership isn't active but I'm curious if the lapse between renewal wipes what you had acquired over time
think it's bullshit, if they can autobill ya lol. there was a period where i was dumb and missed some end of life ps3 offers and A LOT of xbox one stuff. there'd be months where i wouldnt turn on my xbox one
OP I agree. Think it's kind of wild the amount of people dismissing what is a pretty reasonable criticism of a service you have to pay for. "B-b-but they're giving you the choice to have less games that you pay for" is not a defensible position to me, nor is people not wanting them because Sony can't figure out their license bullshit. In the software section there's literally already a section for PS+ titles, it should automatically populate that list with every title you've had an active subscription. You're completely right and I never imagined seeing the amount of awful takes arguing with you about it.
The PS+ and GWG programs would straight up not have the same level of offerings they have today.
This has nothing to do with "Sony license bullshit." MS has the same system in place for the same business reasons.