You would think you would ifnit was suicide he wouldn't put on body armor.
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Heavily armed man stopped by armed firefighter at Walmart in Springfield, MO
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You would think you would ifnit was suicide he wouldn't put on body armor.
Police say a man was arrested Thursday after he showed up at a Springfield Walmart store with a loaded rifle and a bulletproof vest.
Lt. Mike Lucas with the Springfield Police Department said the incident occurred at about 4:10 p.m. at the Walmart Neighborhood Market at 3150 W. Republic Road.
Lucas said the man showed up to the business with body armor and military-style clothing and then walked inside carrying a "tactical rifle" and another gun.
As shoppers were panicking and fleeing the store, Lucas said the man was taking video on his phone and making comments to people while pushing a shopping cart.
Lucas said the suspect then walked out of the store, where an off-duty firefighter held the suspect at gunpoint until police arrived moments later.
The suspect, a 20-year-old white man, was arrested, but Lucas said police are still working to determine his motives and whether or not he intended to shoot anyone.
Lucas said the man had more than 100 rounds of ammo.
"His intent obviously was to cause chaos here, and he did that," Lucas said.
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Lucas said Springfield police officers arrived on scene in 3 minutes after the initial 911 call on Thursday. He said the scene was initially chaotic.
Lucas described the suspect as "pretty stoic" during the initial police contact. He said officers would be interviewing the suspect at the jail on Thursday to try to learn more about his motivations.
"His intent was not to cause peace or comfort to anybody that was in the business here," Lucas said. "In fact, he's lucky he's alive still, to be honest."
Around here ALOT of people open carry. Its fairly normal actually. But usually pistols ive never seen somebody with a rifle walking around. (Im about 30 min SE of Kansas City)
More like "People bitching about guns well let me flex my RIGHT to a gun in public huuuurrr"
the same people who do shit like this:
Open carry is apparently legal in Missouri as long as the weapon isn't being displayed in an "angry or threatening" manner.
So I wonder if he ever held his gun up or anything or if it was pointed up or down. If so and it's all recorded, he's probably got a lawsuit and a payday on his hands.
Or certainly he could have been looking to commit a mass murder. Which is exactly why open carry laws and lax gun laws are fucking dumb in the first place.
If you have an concealed carry permit, which is not required to conceal or open carry, you're allowed to open carry basically anywhere and any local rules or laws are overridden.
So I wonder if he ever held his gun up or anything or if it was pointed up or down. If so and it's all recorded, he's probably got a lawsuit and a payday on his hands.
Or certainly he could have been looking to commit a mass murder. Which is exactly why open carry laws and lax gun laws are fucking dumb in the first place.
If you have an concealed carry permit, which is not required to conceal or open carry, you're allowed to open carry basically anywhere and any local rules or laws are overridden.
it sadly probably was, and I bet the NRA will bitch about this.
It is in states with sensible gun laws. Guns is an area where I'm super happy to live in New York. Open carry is fucking insane to me, INSANE.
Most aren't, but I've had to deal with the City of Houston Fire Marshall before and he's a huge prick who carrys a side arm like john wayne. And people make fun of him for it, because he has a desk job.
Maybe but I think a guy with that kind of gear and weaponry probably doesn't have that kind of presence of mind.
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IDK with that amount of ammo makes me wonder if he was planning to shoot but conscience came over him.
With open carry being legal, you'll never know if he's going there to shoot up the store until he decides to start shooting up the store.
In the conservative utopia of everyone owning a gun and open carrying, if "good guys with guns" opened fire on a shooter, it'd be difficult for them to determine who the bad guy was. It'd be more difficult for first responders once they hit the scene.
If only there was something else we could do. 🤔
In the conservative utopia of everyone owning a gun and open carrying, if "good guys with guns" opened fire on a shooter, it'd be difficult for them to determine who the bad guy was. It'd be more difficult for first responders once they hit the scene.
If only there was something else we could do. 🤔
still lock him up for a long time.
I guess he did nothing wrong so...1 million views on his youtube channel.
I guess he did nothing wrong so...1 million views on his youtube channel.
Since he didn't actually shoot anyone, is it possible he can sue the govt if he had all the right permits? Assuming you need permits to open carry in that area.
This whole story is so nuts, very glad nobody was hurt.
This whole story is so nuts, very glad nobody was hurt.
Yeah, an open carry troll probably. Not sure why Walmarts seem like such a popular destination. Saw this at a local Walmart where a dude was standing there with an AK variant trying to look badass.
Didn't the New Zealand shooter stream his? Or at least filmed up to it?
make everyone carry a gun, then anyone you shoot is fair game
Under Missouri law if he wasn't aiming the gun or being threatening, he not only likely will not be charged/jailed, he likely could sue.
Congrats, Missouri!
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He streamed it.
Ironically, the Dayton shooter was obsessed with that footage.
He was recording things with his phone, he was trying to cause an incident. Probably to do this very thing. Why? Like the others said probably just to troll.
Whatever the reason guy did this.. the talking point is going to be good guy with a gun, even though he walked around the store, parading as in imminent threat, and even existed after the fire alarm was pulled.
If dude wanted to, he could have just walked through the front door and opened fire before anybody with a gun could be a significant factor.
If dude wanted to, he could have just walked through the front door and opened fire before anybody with a gun could be a significant factor.
That's the objective of terrorism.
Am I being hyperbolic? Please tell me.
I'm legit worried about going shopping this weekend. It's fucking ridiculous.
I don't want to wear sandals for christ's sake. Gotta be ready to go fast.
Fuck these pieces of shit.
This is about 2 hrs. south of me....told my wife the other day we're avoiding Wal Marts for a while.
Never thought I'd see a day where I was afraid to go to fucking Wal Mart.
This country is fucked.
Never thought I'd see a day where I was afraid to go to fucking Wal Mart.
This country is fucked.
Maybe he went in with the intention of shooting brown people but didn't encounter any
This is going to get worse.
Living in Orlando, which is a hotspot for tourist has nothing to stop a mass shooting from happening like in Pulse. And I fear for when a mass shooting will happen at my job.
Living in Orlando, which is a hotspot for tourist has nothing to stop a mass shooting from happening like in Pulse. And I fear for when a mass shooting will happen at my job.
I don't even know how to process this.
He went to WALMART, dressed up for combat and just walked around videotaping himself?
And then a firefighter dude pulls a gun on him?
I don't know who succeeded here.
I sure as hell ain't going to a Walmart anytime in the next 15 to 20 years.
He went to WALMART, dressed up for combat and just walked around videotaping himself?
And then a firefighter dude pulls a gun on him?
I don't know who succeeded here.
I sure as hell ain't going to a Walmart anytime in the next 15 to 20 years.
This fool isn't going to get any money out of this, lets be real. He rolled into a Walmart within a week of a mass shooting having happened at another store in a bulletproof vest and rifle. If he even tried, Walmart's band of lawyers would rip him apart, open carry state or not.
Cold feet possibly. Like he planned to do something but started to have second thoughts.
Probably only saw only white people, so couldn't scratch his genocidal, Nazi itch.
Under Missouri law, it doesn't seem to matter. If he had a conceal carry permit, he could open carry anywhere he wants except schools and churches basically.
We'll see, but their laws don't allow for any recent shooting exceptions. Because it's all dumb as hell.
Not here maybe, but in other states. And you know, the messaging.
I live in rural Oregon and the only people I ever see carrying are old guys I wouldn't trust not to accidentally shoot me in a gun fight.
This is crazy. I actually live here, and go to that Walmart regularly. I don't look forward to people here defending this as his freedom of speech, but I know they will.
Man, I need to get out of the midwest...
Man, I need to get out of the midwest...
