Very cool, I'm interested to see how this turns out. Maybe this can be my excuse to sign up for HBO.
Stop HBO. You fucked up and can't get back Game of Thrones. They should be using this money to sue D and D instead.
The sad fact is that this series will come out and end before we get TWOW.
The series is only cover Dance of Dragons material, apparently.I'm kind of excited for this. I'm also curious how they plan to do it; it's a long history that moves through characters pretty fast.
Doesn't have much to do with this, since this is set in the past. But, it is worth noting that this book also is incomplete and waiting on a sequel. A sequel that I can only assume will never happen. The history is supposed to cover up to Robert's Rebellion, IIRC, and it stops well short.
So, the show is going to cover the book material and run out...and then what?
The series is only cover Dance of Dragons material, apparently.
These are set photos, not in-camera screenshots. They'll be lit differently.The two Targ outfits look cheap. From afar they looked better, the dragonscale pattern looked shiny and chaotic, now it looks like a leopard print. Same with Rhaenyra's pattern, another leopard-like pattern that doesn't make sense. Missed opportunity. The one on Alicent looks more dragon-like. It's weird.
There are so many great television shows I can't fathom jumping back into the Game of Thrones universe after what season 8 was.
You signed that petition, didn't you?Stop HBO. You fucked up and can't get back Game of Thrones. They should be using this money to sue D and D instead.
Not seeing the complaints with the costumes. They look pretty great to me. Detailed and book accurate, esp for Rhaenyra.
Ear rings also now exist (no one wore ear-rings in GoT).
Stop HBO. You fucked up and can't get back Game of Thrones. They should be using this money to sue D and D instead.
Bro, it was just a kinda subpar season of television.
You said that HBO should sue the creators of a TV show because you didn't like the final season.
It was called out for the ridiculous comment that it was. And considering people involved with Game of Thrones were harassed and received death threats for that final season, maybe don't feed into that toxic rhetoric.
You can call me out without harassing me follow your own advice and don't support that behavior.
These are set photos, not in-camera screenshots. They'll be lit differently.
Official photos taken by a set photographer though, not taken from the actual camera filming the scene. The lighting on these things is always more blown out than it appears on camera.It will really not look very different at all considering these are shots outside in the sun, official ones too. The pattern on both of them look like leopard patterns, while the Hightowers have what can pass off more as dragon scales. That isn't going to change and I hope it's not going to be a recurring pattern for the Targs, it really looks wrong.
It will be interesting how they adjust the bigger picture stuff with respect to ages of characters. Are they going to have Olivia Cooke play Alicent Hightower and have a grown ass son?
I think they will stick to the Game of Thrones style where there are no big time skips and years are barely mentioned rather than like the Tudors where they tell the story in chunks and at the end you have Jonathan Rhys Meyer (33) and Henry Cavill (27) playing guys who are supposed to be in their mid fifties. ASOIAF isn't real history so they can freely play around with the timeline to suit their needs.
Although if HBO did it Tudors style they could do a better job with make-up.
I'm assuming we'll get some fiery dragon action?
I just like watching the dragons nuke everything.
Corlys Velaryon being black is weird for me because we ultimately don't know how GRRM plans to end ASOIAF. What am I talking about? Well, we know that the Valyrians were all pale ass white people with silver-blonde hair and purple eyes. Also, they pretty much all got wiped out by the Doom except those that escaped to Westeros and those few who lived in what were border colonies like Volantis. Since the Targaryens were one of the last Valyrian families in Westeros that still maintained the Old Blood of Valyria, they kept great strains to make sure the Blood of the Dragon remained "pure."
As such, this meant intermarriage within their own family as well as marriages with other families with ties to Valyria including nobles in Volantis as well as House Velaryon. Now, the fact that all these Targ Kings and Queens turned out to be half-insane always felt like a commentary on "blood purity." Currently, in ASOIAF we have Daenerys and Jon Snow as descendants of Targaryens and thus carrying the Old Blood. However, I've always suspected neither Jon Snow or Daenerys would be some savior of mankind as it would prop up the idea that blood purity matters. The idea that you need to have these pale-ass blonde people breed with other pale-ass blonde people to ensure the sacred Valyrian blood is protected and thus able to produce the Prince That Was Promised seems very not like GRRM.
This gets back to the Sea Snake. By casting the Sea Snake as a black dude and just being like "yeah, of course there were black Valyrians" it destroys this social commentary. But, such social commentary could only be destroyed if we knew the actual end to ASOIAF!
However, Corlys Velaryon being black is something I'm definitely not sold on. Copying my previous post from an older thread:
As a black dude, diversity is great. But, I don't need a black dude that's a direct descendant of pure blood Aryans that are all about protecting their pure blood.
The great beauty of the Valyrians—with their hair of palest silver or gold and eyes in shades of purple not found amongst any other peoples of the world—is well-known, and often held up as proof that the Valyrians are not entirely of the same blood as other men.
Is there actually anything in all the books that says the Valyrians were white?
Hair and eyes described. Nothing about skin.
Is there actually anything in all the books that says the Valyrians were white?
Hair and eyes described. Nothing about skin.
I believe it is only the Targaryen family, or primarily the Targaryen family, that was concerned with incestual breeding to keep their bloodline "pure". I want to say that the Valyrians overall were a more diverse group, in all liklihood. The Targs did not make up the whole of the Valyrians, just one family from Valyria.
So I don't see it as unreasonable to see a diverse group of Valyrians.
I don't know anything about the character nor the actor but this is easily the most badass-looking character from all of GOT. In for this alone.
Steve Toussaint as Lord Corlys Velaryon, "The Sea Snake": Lord of House Velaryon, a Valyrian bloodline as old as House Targaryen. As "The Sea Snake," the most famed nautical adventurer in the history of Westeros, Lord Corlys built his house into a powerful seat that is even richer than the Lannisters and that claims the largest navy in the world.
I'm cautiously interested due to the source material. I will say that I'm not immediately sold with Matt Smith as Daemon. I actually don't know him through Dr. Who but through everything else he's done. He was excellent in The Crown. But, I always pictured Daemon as looking something like Nikolaj as Jaime, including their personality. Daemon is a sly bastard that you occasionally find yourself liking through his sheer charm and occasional honor.
However, Corlys Velaryon being black is something I'm definitely not sold on. Copying my previous post from an older thread:
As a black dude, diversity is great. But, I don't need a black dude that's a direct descendant of pure blood Aryans that are all about protecting their pure blood.
Is there actually anything in all the books that says the Valyrians were white?
Hair and eyes described. Nothing about skin.
I don't know anything about the character nor the actor but this is easily the most badass-looking character from all of GOT. In for this alone.
Her parents blood raven and shiera shestar have yet to be born
Wasn't it only the ruling dragonlords, ala the Targaryens, that were obsessed with blood purity?As a black dude, diversity is great. But, I don't need a black dude that's a direct descendant of pure blood Aryans that are all about protecting their pure blood.
That's Targaryens, not Valyrians. Which is probably exactly what is getting "fixed" with this show's take on race, and probably 100% approved by George. He has stated before he had thought of making the Targaryens black but walked back on it because of the implications of their behaviors, but the second logical step is to make it that Targs were one "royal" family among Valyrians, of which they are by then the last remnant of. Hence, no reason for Velaryons to look like Targs. Valyria could have been multi-cultural, and Velaryons aren't known for riding dragons.
Wasn't it only the ruling dragonlords, ala the Targaryens, that were obsessed with blood purity?
The Velayron's weren't dragonlords. So why would they be protective of blood purity? They didn't ride dragons. They didn't rule in Valyria. They were lower level sailors and merchant, making their way to ports all around the freehold.
The real question is whether any intended social commentary is destroyed by black Valyrians, unfortunately we can't know unless GRRM says something or finishes the damn series.
Doubt it because I think any such commentary would be done through the Targaryens as Valyria is too remote and ultimately if there was any to be made even about Valyrians it wouldn't have to be about skin color.
What I do hope the show will do is have at least some of the Targs show their racism.
And again George is involved with the show, and I am sure this whole topic is something they had a common vision on.