Harvard researchers say soda and sports drinks increase risk of dying from heart disease and breast and colon cancers (especially sugary ones)
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I've always been tempted to try those water flavoring packet things to spice things up with my h20 consumption. Are those bad too? :- \
Well they just mentioned in the article thay the diet results may be skewed due to the fact that these individuals switched from sugary drinks.
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Depends, there are sugared one which will be about as bad as soda, and there are unsugared ones which will be on par with sugar free drinks (IE, don't blast through a couple liters/quarts of it today and you'll be fine)
Indeed. A more conclusive and specialized study would have to be done to say for a fact there.
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Bang's don't contain sugar... but I'd still be worried since we don't know the long term health effects of a lot of these "special energy blend" type products... At least it doesn't appear to have yojimbe bark and stuff in them.
Fruit sugar is not processed sugar. It takes longer time to digest and your body can handle it. It doesn't shoot up your blood sugar level. You ancestor has been eating fruit for 1+ million years, but processed sugar only the last couple hundred years. Your body is not designed for it.
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The study can be summed up pretty succinctly as "excessive sugar bad"... so when in doubt, check the label for total sugars.
They cause migraines in some people. Like me for example. I gave up diet soda and i now i rarely ever get headaches.
What does it say on the nutritional fact. How many grams of sugar per serving?
Yeah but that's an over simplification. I will check them later today (values are at home) but I will be pissed because unflavored protein shakes taste like assThe study can be summed up pretty succinctly as "excessive sugar bad"... so when in doubt, check the label for total sugars.
How much pre-workout are you drinking that this might be a problem for you? lol
Not in liquid form though.
Juice is just as unhealthy, there's no fibre, plus the quantity.
Our "ancestors" ate an apple, they didn't drink 4 (a cup's worth).
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A simplification, yes, but hardly an oversimplification. The study was on the health impact of sugary drinks over 3 decades, and they clearly didn't see nearly the health concerns with unsugared sodas and energy drinks. If your protein shakes are getting most of their carbs from sugar, you can pretty safely assume that they are unhealthier than those with protein shakes that don't.
gotta switch to lacroix
gatorade/powerade is insane. nobody should be drinking that unless they're a serious athlete. just thinking of the feeling it leaves in your mouth makes me want to go brush my teeth.
gatorade/powerade is insane. nobody should be drinking that unless they're a serious athlete. just thinking of the feeling it leaves in your mouth makes me want to go brush my teeth.
So every participant in the study was split into two categories. One drank fizzy lifting drinks the regular kind, and the other drank the pseudo sugar kind. All day long, everyday, from the moment of inception, to the day of death and drank nothing else.
They did not injest anything else, nothing other than their particular soda pop. Each and every day. For each and every meal. Because such scientfic rigor is the only way they could categorically state one way or another.
They must have used rats.
Glad to know.
They did not injest anything else, nothing other than their particular soda pop. Each and every day. For each and every meal. Because such scientfic rigor is the only way they could categorically state one way or another.
They must have used rats.
Glad to know.
eh, fuck off Harvard.
they've been trying to tell us sugar will kill you for years, then the diet stuff will kill you, now the sugar will kill you again.
did they adjust for stress and other factors that contribute to cancer and heart disease, or just the fact that they drank what everyone drinks?
I remain unswayed.
edit: that said I stopped drinking sodas because they've gotten really syrupy over the decades, and mainly drink things with real sugar.
they've been trying to tell us sugar will kill you for years, then the diet stuff will kill you, now the sugar will kill you again.
did they adjust for stress and other factors that contribute to cancer and heart disease, or just the fact that they drank what everyone drinks?
I remain unswayed.
edit: that said I stopped drinking sodas because they've gotten really syrupy over the decades, and mainly drink things with real sugar.
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You could just... I dunno... click the link in the OP, or read the original study versus throwing in completely anti-scientific mumbo jumbo. Might as well throw in a "FAKE NEWS" while you're at it.
Agreed. I've been trying to diet recently and so I drink nothing but green tea, black coffee and water. But mostly water. Surprisingly not that difficult, just the feeling of drinking something is what I need sometimes, not even what I drink.
good thing I've stopped. Haven't had any Soda in about 2 weeks now, and I have no intention of drinking it ever again.
Well most juice are just favored processed sugar water anyway.
Fruit is easy to transport and cheaper.
Juice is not much healthier than soda. Eating fruits is much better for you, one glass of orange juice is the equivalent of 2-4 actual oranges and doesn't have most of the pulp that makes it more fulfilling and take longer to digest.
a public health statement warning everyone about a poison isn't a personal attack against you for drinking it
Yeah, more and more evidence continues to point just how awful sugar is for you.
I've managed to cut my soda intake to 0-2 a month, which I feel pretty good about. Just enough to treat myself every now and again.
I've managed to cut my soda intake to 0-2 a month, which I feel pretty good about. Just enough to treat myself every now and again.
Looking at their data, the people who drink artificially sweetened drinks do tend to weigh more. 2-6 artificially sweetened drinks a week is an extra 0.5 BMI, more than 2 a day is about an extra 1.0 BMI. They kind of hand wave it away because they didn't strictly enforce what people were drinking, so they attribute that to people switching to artificially sweetened drinks when they're already fat from sugar sweetened drinks. I find it really hard to believe that is consistently the case over a 30 year study. Especially when the calorie intake for the artificially sweetened group is lower, and the activity level for the artificially sweetened group is slightly higher.
I think they have a lot of confounding issues. They even mention this as a potential problem- that people drinking artificially sweetened drinks tend to exhibit other behaviors that are healthier (and isn't this at odds with them tending to weigh more?). The lack of any dietary interventions on the researchers' part makes all of these claims pretty meh in my opinion. The error bars on the mortality rates for BMI >25 are quite large for both artificially and sugar sweetened drinks. The ones <25 look more convincing to me.
I wouldn't take this study as a permission slip to go nuts on artificially sweetened drinks. If you're not exhibiting other healthy behaviors, then chances are it wouldn't do too much good. Although I guess if you managed to drop your weight from solely switching to artificially sweetened drinks, that would probably be good regardless of anything else that's going on.
I think they have a lot of confounding issues. They even mention this as a potential problem- that people drinking artificially sweetened drinks tend to exhibit other behaviors that are healthier (and isn't this at odds with them tending to weigh more?). The lack of any dietary interventions on the researchers' part makes all of these claims pretty meh in my opinion. The error bars on the mortality rates for BMI >25 are quite large for both artificially and sugar sweetened drinks. The ones <25 look more convincing to me.
I wouldn't take this study as a permission slip to go nuts on artificially sweetened drinks. If you're not exhibiting other healthy behaviors, then chances are it wouldn't do too much good. Although I guess if you managed to drop your weight from solely switching to artificially sweetened drinks, that would probably be good regardless of anything else that's going on.
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Still waiting for any actual evidence to emerge potentially proving that Diet Coke (or anything else with an artificial sweetener) is actually bad for you.
Most I've read is that it makes someone more likely to eat something sugary... But if you don't (which I don't), I don't see any evidence that proves long-term harm.
I read it and i'm doubling down. I think you missed my point . . . and the truth of it.
Or maybe you got my point and thats why you flung insults and derision? ( <probabally that )
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Yeah that's how I rolled for a long time. Mostly I'd just get orange soda with Mexican food or a coke with a burger, haha. But I eventually lost interest in it all together. I like the taste, but it also kinda feels like I'm just drinking a random concoction of chemicals.
How do you take 100-mile bicycle ride and still don't know the difference between calories and sugar. I call bullshit.
I honestly don't think I can quit the Gatorade. Classic lemon lime is my jam. Orange is a close second.
is this a parody post
I actually can't fathom that some of you are complaining that you're being told eating truck loads of sugar years on end is bad for you.
Have you not noticed that one third of humanity is overweight or obese? Obesity rates have skyrocketed since the 80's when everyone freaked out about fat and food producers replaced fat with processed sugar?
Sugars are certainly a way more efficient way to carry calories on my jersey back pocket than the alternatives, unless you can point me towards a good one. And no need to get aggressive, my profile over here is not private and I'm active at the cycling thread.