Gunfire Games blocked me on Twitter for asking for a tip on Darksiders 3
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It would be REALLY hard to win a libel suit considering how THQn handled that whole ordeal.
you probably make worse threads, or none at all. thanks for your contribution. i got blocked by a4 games for questioning their egs bullshit.
Yes. Because the shitty publisher developed the game. OP didnt tweet THQ
There are better ways than calling developers for pedos. That's entirely the wrong way to go about it. Full stop. There's no defense good enough to justify that here, no matter what some THQ arsehat execs did.
I don't think that justifies an achievement that's just bad and not fun to accomplish. I've always been of the opinion that achievements should be tied to doing sick rad shit. An example of what I mean is the achievements in Mirror's Edge that you get for pulling of complex and precise maneuvers.
On the other end of things we have achievements like those in the souls series, games I love, where you get your achievements by progressing through the game or doing something mundane like leveling a weapon fully through the different upgrade material trees. It's just not fulfilling in any way.
Obviously the former example is much harder to do, and that's why many games have grinding achievements or progression achievements, but that's why I think making achievements be required for your game on most consoles was a bad move.
Yes, as I said.
However, also as I said, if THQn is involved, juvenile kneejerk response or otherwise, expect this to come up.
OP -- I have two opinions on this:
1.) It was extremely lame of them to block you in this case. You didn't curse them or use expletives or slurs, etc
The most they might have done is maybe just not respond back, but definitely does not warrant a block.
2.) Regardless if they have been patching farming spots or overpowered stuff, Achievements are not necessary. And you shouldn't feel like you need to do one if you think it's specifically a badly designed one. I never go out of my way to do any tedious achievement
1.) It was extremely lame of them to block you in this case. You didn't curse them or use expletives or slurs, etc
The most they might have done is maybe just not respond back, but definitely does not warrant a block.
2.) Regardless if they have been patching farming spots or overpowered stuff, Achievements are not necessary. And you shouldn't feel like you need to do one if you think it's specifically a badly designed one. I never go out of my way to do any tedious achievement
To add, if the grinding really is as bad as you say OP, cheat engine is right there for you.
I disagree
Developers can design whatever Achievements they want. In fact if I was a game dev, I wouldn't give a rat's ass about the achievements and what people thought. I find it really weird those players who take them so seriously
Getting to level 100 is in no way necessary to beating the game, it's just a (really lame, granted) achievement; The game's more than doable without needing to grind, especially, I presume, if you're not on a higher difficulty.
THQ Nordic maybe have published the game that Gunfire Games made, but they are not their "parent company".
Let's drop this derail, please.
I need an explanation as for why the "you cheated not only the game" copy pasta wasn't the first response.
yeah that's why PC gaming is nice
I use CheatEngine and trainers when necessary. (although not specifically for achievements because I don't care about them)
Lmao... they were probably still patting themselves on the back for that achievement 'zinger' when you followed up and they panicked.
Cowardly mother fucker... fight your corner at least a little :D
Reminds me of...
Cowardly mother fucker... fight your corner at least a little :D
Reminds me of...
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I can kinda see your point. But, to me, cheesing always meant finding a flaw in the game to essentially cheat and beat a difficult part. Maybe im wrong on that. These farming spots im talking about are just running around in circles getting enemies to respawn and killing them. They patched them so the enemies stop spawning. There are so many accessibility options in the game, that there is really no need to even get to 100, unless you want the achievement or play on the highest difficulties maybe.There are several difficulty options and even an option to change playstyle. You can change it so its more similar to the first 2 games or you can choose the default one the game launched with. On my first full playhthrough of the game, I played through on the hardest difficulty available at the time, using farming spots for quite a bit of time, I was able to reach level 55. Now halfway through the game on my NG+ run I was at like 58. I just dont see what they intended here
Unfortunately I am on xbox, so thats not an option.
I don't know it does seem like a game design flaw if there is no fun way to reach a certain level to get an achievement. Gamers finding a quicker way to grind isn't some new thing.
If the developers have been patching out good farming spots, they're probably getting hateful tweets from angry gamers left and right. They probably have very little patience for that kind of thing at this point. In a vacuum, the criticism in your second tweet isn't horrible, but if they're being hit by an onslaught of negativity, they probably thought it was too much for them to put up with.
LOL so Gunfire Games is a "You cheated not only the game, but yourself..." kind of developer?
But in all seriousness I think all companies need to attend a PR seminar/TED Talk called "Sometimes just shut the hell up ya know? Like, it's not realistic to reply to every tweet and email in the first place so know when to not."
But in all seriousness I think all companies need to attend a PR seminar/TED Talk called "Sometimes just shut the hell up ya know? Like, it's not realistic to reply to every tweet and email in the first place so know when to not."
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Lol I almost wish this was the response, at least I would of laughed
They really should of just not replied at all if this is all they had to say
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Why would I back down when they reply with something like that. If they didn't owe me a response, then they shouldn't have replied at all. Instead they replied with a condescending tweet. I bought their game and dlc and supported them day 1. This isn't the way they should reply to people who play their games. How hard would it be for them to say anything helpful at all.
I agree with you OP, whoever is working Gunfire Games Twitter didn't handle your questions well.
Because nothing helpful was going to come of it. They clearly expressed to you that they didn't care, unfortunately, so pressing the topic further wasn't going to get anywhere. They already have your money, and they're condescending on Twitter; might have to think twice before going in on their next project.
Holy shit.
You think they went into business with them after the 8chan incident?
Lol.
Nah, fuck that. OP was right pushing back, their initial reply was rude as hell. Who gives a shit if he gets blocked by some random dev?
I hear you, but it's a situation where it's Twitter, not a customer service line. They bared their ass to someone asking a legit question that whoever handles the account probably couldn't answer anyway. They are, in fact, some random dev, so who cares what they have to say? If they're gonna be childish, engaging further isn't going to do anything positive. They (the dev) shouldn't have responded at all if they didn't have a good answer, of course, so expecting anything good after that is wasted energy, in my opinion.
I guess OP does.
I don't see anything blockworthy, but in the end it's their Twitter account. Perhaps they took Kamiya as a role model?
Can someone explain gunfire games's relation to the game and THQN? I don't know the story there (obviously know the THQN 8chan story)
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Gunfire is the new form of Vigil(who made the first 2 darksiders), I believe a lot of the key people moved there from vigil. And now gunfire made darksiders 3. THQN is the publisher, but the 8can stuff happened after darksiders 3
It takes like five seconds to check if there's anything more at all to the conversation (there isn't):
But of couse that would be five seconds looking for something online, when you could spend them throwing shade at someone for no reason instead, and who could possibly resist doing the latter?
Developers always say they want to interact with their customers but any feedback always seems to fall on deaf ears. Randy Pitchford blocked me yesterday when he asked what platform we were going to play borderlands 3 on. I said I couldn't support them after the EGS issue, and even apologized for it. He gave me a snarky ass answer and blocked me. Lol like wtf? I wasn't rude, I didn't say anything inflammatory, I answered the question he asked. If you don't want people to answer you honestly then don't ask. For all the y'all about gamers being entitled, these guys sure are thin skinned bitches.
I mean I don't like Pitchford at all either, but I'm pretty sure he was asking to those people who *ARE* going to buy BL3
not those who are not buying the game
who cares
its ok if you dont like their game and you're not entitled to them wanting to talk to you about how bad you think (a part of) their game is indefinitely.
its ok if you dont like their game and you're not entitled to them wanting to talk to you about how bad you think (a part of) their game is indefinitely.
Gonna side with OP here. Grinding levels isn't even an achievement, it's just work. This thread actually has me thinking about making a thread on achievement design again and how poorly thought out it is by most developers.
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Then im apparently not even entitled to an answer to a legitimate question, because they didnt answer me to begin with. I clearly liked the game as I was on a second playthrough
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I would be a regular in that thread, and I would write an essay about overwatch achievements.
Whined about optional activity in game directly at developers, got blocked. What gives? They probably get hundreds of these a day, and blocking can stop people from doing it over and over.
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lol
asking a legitimate question is whining now. Guess nobody should ever reach out to developers then unless you are 100% praising them.