Dogs have started barking. It's a black man speaking AAVE so people are immediately going to be ignorant off the bat.
GTA San Andreas voice actor for CJ rages at Rockstar Games and says he'll never work for them again and won't be in GTA VI
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Dogs have started barking. It's a black man speaking AAVE so people are immediately going to be ignorant off the bat.
He says in one of his tweets that he is, quote, "street" and I'm not really sure what it means but I thought it is something like "real or anti-corporation".
I can imagine this is something to do with royalties.
I can imagine very easily.
Same thing happened with Lez of course, and I'm sure that was a far, far larger sum.
I can imagine very easily.
You know, street, road, asphalt. Come on, it's an innocent word!
As expected.
Looks like it's because of pay
Same thing happened with Lez of course, and I'm sure that was a far, far larger sum.
I'm not sure why the GTA voice actors would really expect to make millions off of a GTA game. They're not going to give a voice actor a percentage of the gross because these games pretty much sell themselves and they don't need to offer points on the backend. The VAs are not what sells the games or attracts a massive audience.
Fuck R*
motherfuckers wont come out with gtav single player dlc stories
Im sure its related to that
Fuck gta online
motherfuckers wont come out with gtav single player dlc stories
Im sure its related to that
Fuck gta online
This is always about their pay after the fact. Isn't this kind of the same thing that Voice Actors for games have been fighting for recently? Like better studio time pay and conditions?
I wanna say the Niko voice actor was pissed because he recorded his parts - got paid the normal amounts - and then watched GTA4 make a fucking billion dollars and he got none of that pie.
I dunno. I get the anger/frustration but ... these guys HAVE to know what's up right? Like you're gonna be in a GTA game. It's gonna sell fucking gangbusters. And no .. you're not gonna get any of that residual and royalty pay. I don't think this catches any of them by surprise. I think it just festers and burns as R* piles up stacks and they don't get called back for roles or a boost to their career cause people still don't recognize them anywhere or anything. (Except fucking Trevor...)
I wanna say the Niko voice actor was pissed because he recorded his parts - got paid the normal amounts - and then watched GTA4 make a fucking billion dollars and he got none of that pie.
I dunno. I get the anger/frustration but ... these guys HAVE to know what's up right? Like you're gonna be in a GTA game. It's gonna sell fucking gangbusters. And no .. you're not gonna get any of that residual and royalty pay. I don't think this catches any of them by surprise. I think it just festers and burns as R* piles up stacks and they don't get called back for roles or a boost to their career cause people still don't recognize them anywhere or anything. (Except fucking Trevor...)
That's 3 for 3 with the old GTA voice actors expressing they'll never work with Rockstar again. I recall the GTAV VA for Michael also got paid little for his work.
I have a feeling R* changed their entire process when it comes to voice actors after GTA IV. Like you had Rob Wiethoff (Marston) and Ben Byron Davis (Dutch) willing to come back 8 years after RDR 1. And Peter Blomquist as Micah in RDR 2 after playing Dr. Fontaine in L.A. Noire.
Hopefully that means better pay and working conditions for actors, but tough to know for sure.
Timing wise that also matches up with their move towards mostly unknown actors starting with RDR 1. A far cry from the avalanche of celebrities in the PS2 games (and even GTA IV when you include the comedy clubs and radio cameos).
This is why you have to comb the contract and look to see how they'll fuck you with royalties and the like before signing.
Yeah, and going by the video interview thing they did with Wiethoff he wasn't big on being a voice actor in the first place. So getting him back for RDR2 Rockstar must have started to treat their voice actors right after GTA 4.
Yeah, and going by the video interview thing they did with Wiethoff he wasn't big on being a voice actor in the first place. So getting him back for RDR2 Rockstar must have started to treat their voice actors right after GTA 4.
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Ray Liotta wasn't upset with Rockstar just because of not being paid enough. He also felt that Rockstar didn't appreciate his efforts enough.
At a time when va are looking for better security you better come with more than blind company love for rock*
A few posts out there hella embarrasing
A few posts out there hella embarrasing
Probably because he could make a decent argument that RDR wouldn't be as big a hit as it was without him providing his voice to John.
They'll probably just get someone else? Maybe they don't want to negotiate too much prior to getting the gig.
In the scheme of a video games I really don't think VA's take top precedent when it comes to royalties/pay for work on videogames. There are people who work a lot harder and make a lot less on a single videogame.
That's true. He seemed content with being out of video games post-RDR 1, so hopefully that means R* did alright by him to get him back for RDR 2.
Getting fucked by not reading and thinking about the contracts before signing.
More likely about a few years ago, SAG got video game voice actors added to the union.
So they had more protections.
Well they also began working on RDR2 right after the first one in 2010 and then the full cast was doing performance capture by 2012-2013. Again the GTAV seemed quite happy post release but they also found work including The Walking Dead and Boardwalk Empire.
He wants 10% of the profits? He's not 10% responsible for its success, and he signed the contracts and it was what, 15 years ago?
I don't get this at all.
I don't get this at all.
So, he agreed to a contract and got paid as stipulated in the contract.Does he not know how this works?
He's a rapper signed to Ice Cube's Lench Mob label so asking if he is "street" enough is laughable lmao.
Team Young Maylay.
Not only that, he was discovered by King Tee (an LA legend) which is likely how he had the relationship with DJ Pooh (another LA legend and a writer on San Andreas) and got the Rockstar gig in the first place. Nobody on the internet is in a position to question his street credentials.
Not only that, he was discovered by King Tee (an LA legend) which is likely how he had the relationship with DJ Pooh (another LA legend and a writer on San Andreas) and got the Rockstar gig in the first place. Nobody on the internet is in a position to question his street credentials.
i'll give you three guesses, first two are money and dont count.
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Does Rockstar even consider Saints Row competition anymore though? They've turned GTA Online into Saints Row Online so I'm guessing they admire it.
That's how I've understood it, the 3 PS2 games and 2 PSP games are one continuity. And there's a different continuity with IV, the two expansions, and V.
He's probably sick of hearing his own voice in all these videos and memes and he probably stopped receiving any residuals from GTA:SA years ago.
There's no way he got paid what one might expect for a game that's probably sold over 30MM copies LTD.
Rockstar seems pretty apt at saving money on vocie talent.
Hell look at the principal VAs for GTAV. They're best known now for their roles in GTAV...
There's no way he got paid what one might expect for a game that's probably sold over 30MM copies LTD.
Rockstar seems pretty apt at saving money on vocie talent.
Hell look at the principal VAs for GTAV. They're best known now for their roles in GTAV...
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Era's proved to be pretty bad about interpreting AAVE as inherently aggressive over the last couple days.
Rockstar sure has a rocky history with voice talent - not to mention their own employees, reportedly.
Way to belittle your own hobby. GTA is not just a video game, it's the most profitable entertainment series of all time.