Darn it you beat me to it. Soon as I saw the thread title Active Reloads in the Gears series came to mind immediately.
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Great mechanics that were never copied
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Darn it you beat me to it. Soon as I saw the thread title Active Reloads in the Gears series came to mind immediately.
Exist Archive is made by the same people that made VP, so I don't really like the idea of saying they "copied it." I mean, it's their battle system, hahaha.
But a ton of games copied VP combat. Mostly low budget JRPGs made by shit developers like Idea Factory and the like.
I am quite a fan of the encounter rate manipulation in Bravely Default. If you were super close to death and had no healing items left or if you were backtracking or even just trying to beat a puzzle, being able to shut off encounters was amazing.
That should really be a jrpg staple at this point.
That should really be a jrpg staple at this point.
I think what was best was turning encounter rate to max, speeding up the combat by a billion and turning on auto battle. It made grinding so good.
It has two flavors. One where low level enemies will run away to avoid combat and another where you simply win if you start combat.
I am fairly certain Remember Me has the dodge during a combo mechanic.
If I had to bet I would say most every mechanic mentioned so far has appeared in multiple other games.
If I had to bet I would say most every mechanic mentioned so far has appeared in multiple other games.
Totally agree with this and all the Earthbound related ones.
I've been on an FFVI kick this week, there are so many cool things that game did I rarely if never see:
- Splitting parties and jumping between them in storylines
- Splitting parties for multiple path battles and coordinated dungeon play
- Sabin's button press combo for special moves
- Combo spells that give crazy results (even if its a bug)
- "Meanwhile" style fights that take place during a major cinematic (yet interactive) event ::coughmaria::opera::coughdraco::
- Gau's Veldt and its growth through encounter system
- transforming castles...
MAN!
Majoras Mask groundhog day mechanic,I dont remember it getting repeated in any other game,at least the ones I have played
Phantasy Star IV's Macro system. You had up to 5 playable characters at a time so going into and giving direct commands for each one was a pain so the Macro system helped with that. Outside of battle you can setup up to 15 different macros choosing what each character does and the order they attack. This enables you to get through many battles extremely quickly making combat much less of a chore then pretty much every other JRPG out there. On top of that it felt somewhat like additional customization, you'd always have an 'everyone attacks' macro by default but you could make macros for healing, buffing, every members best attack, specific skills to trigger a combination attack, ect.
It's such a great system and unless I'm mistaken no one else has ever tried even doing something like that, certainly not any games I've played.
It's such a great system and unless I'm mistaken no one else has ever tried even doing something like that, certainly not any games I've played.
Yeah I know Tri-Ace made both but it's still another game using that combat style.
What are these other games you mention?
OP
OP
Yeah, those are really great.
IIRC The World Ends With You has a similar system where you can increase the difficulty of random encounters and they harder you up the difficulty the more likely you are to receive rare drops.
Of the ones I've played, the ones that stood out most were Cross Edge and Ar Tonelico 2. I've seen a lot of others, though.
Merging with the walls in A Link Between Worlds. Odyssey kinda does this, but the implementation was different.
In ALBW you're constantly looking at the landscape in a strategic way. Can I use that wall to get past that gap? To hide from enemies? Find a collectible? Usually the background is merely a layer for aesthetic purposes.
In ALBW you're constantly looking at the landscape in a strategic way. Can I use that wall to get past that gap? To hide from enemies? Find a collectible? Usually the background is merely a layer for aesthetic purposes.
Plenty of games use a grid based inventory system. Deus Ex: Human Revolution in particular sticks out to me as a game that was almost certainly inspired by RE4's specific implementation of it.
Shadow of Memories - arguably the best solo concept ever made:
- open spatial world mechanics
- open time world mechanics (free time travel)
- Shenmue-like
- anxious race against his own death by unknown treats.
Never been imitated, never been matched.
- open spatial world mechanics
- open time world mechanics (free time travel)
- Shenmue-like
- anxious race against his own death by unknown treats.
Never been imitated, never been matched.
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Z-targetting in first person shooters. Nothing else feels like the metroid prime games. I love how they play.
Well they did. Persona and Trails both have similar systems when your party is OP.
Heard of those games, had no idea they used the VP battle system. Interesting
That system always felt super clunky to me. The movement systems in Titanfall and Black Ops 3 always felt a ton better to me. Weighty shooters just don't feel good when they encourage platforming on top of it.
I don't know how it works in Earthbound, but Berseria basically has this.
Berseria had this one too.
I'm fairly sure all of these are in at least one of the following FFs.
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After playing Dark Souls I don't ever want to see a system where stun or status effect are governed by random chance in a new game ever again. There's no excuse for leaving these things up to a die roll now that it's been proven that they can be done in a robust and intuitive way without one.
Starting with zero no kiseki, trails games have auto win battles on the field screen.
(re: earthbound )
(re: earthbound )
One hasn't come out yet and the other was by the same studio. And this is in the course of the last 20 years, so not exactly a very wide use of such game mechanics.
Meh, I prefer Call of Juarez: Gunslinger's mashing a button to reload faster. I don't like timing mini games, especially in my fast paced shooters.
As other poster pointed out, Persona 5 does this, it's a perk that affects Mementos. On top of that, I remember Tales of Berseria having a similar mechanic as long as you used the Hoverboard, and some Atelier games having it too.
Monster Hunter had that system for a while beforehand, and Cosmic Star Heroine uses it too, though those use it more for inflicting them on enemies.
Max Payne 3's gunplay.
Shooting from every position.
Using the weight of your own body to knock over enemies.
Diving to prone and sliding down slopes.
Plus all the ways you can stagger enemies, use the environment, mix-and-match weapons... various games have attempted some of these elements before and after Max Payne 3, but none have accomplished it so smoothly and seamlessly.
I swear, if RDR2 plays like GTAV, I'm gonna blow a gasket.
Shooting from every position.
Using the weight of your own body to knock over enemies.
Diving to prone and sliding down slopes.
Plus all the ways you can stagger enemies, use the environment, mix-and-match weapons... various games have attempted some of these elements before and after Max Payne 3, but none have accomplished it so smoothly and seamlessly.
I swear, if RDR2 plays like GTAV, I'm gonna blow a gasket.
Final Fantasy XIII-2 had something like that. There was a skill you could unlock where you could instakill weak enemies that appeared in the field rather than fighting them in a battle. Unfortunately you needed to get a bunch of difficult Fragments (including the one for finishing the entire bestiary...ugh) to obtain it, and I don't think it awarded any EXP/CP either.
I think Blue Dragon had something like this as well, though it's been ages since I played through it.
