Gran Turismo 7 to feature a ray tracing mode for improved lighting, shading and reflections, as well as a 60fps performance mode

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Επιστροφή στις ρίζες. Μια πρώτη ματιά σε αυτά που ετοιμάζει η Polyphony Digital για το Gran Turismo 7 στο PlayStation 5.

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This is according to this leaked preview, there's more details about the game itself of course in the article.

Of course, the technical part of the title is also important, since it is the first first party racing game that we will see for the PS5. So according to Kaz, the GT7 on the PS5 will have two display modes, one aimed at "the highest possible frame rate", with a ceiling of 60 fps, and one with an improved display where Ray Tracing mode is activated for improved lighting, shading and, above all, reflections on the bodies of vehicles

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[plow]

Wait, i thought RT was only on Replays?

 

[Poldino]

We'll probably find out more in today's SoP

 

[EvilBoris]

Wait, i thought RT was only on Replays?

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That sounds like you can have it in game if you want 30fps instead

 

[Deleted member 93062]

Could they be talking about during the replays?

 

[Milennia]

I'm never not going to play this title at 60 fps, so I guess that's that, unless RT is only for replays, in which case I at least don't completely lose it

 

[AstralSphere]

Is that implying a 30fps mode in a GT game?

I'll take the no raytracing mode then please Bob.

If there was any game I'd have thought needed the Ratchet/Miles Morales framerate + lower res RTX mode the most, it would have been GT7.

 

[Karlinel]

God, please, don't make a GT play at 30fps again Kaz habibi, GT6 was unstable enough already.

 

[benzy]

The article doesn't exactly confirm RT reflections will be applied during gameplay.

The Daytona video had 30fps replays with RT reflections on, but the gameplay was 60fps.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I really do wonder if a potential PS5 Pro could handle both RT/high res and 60fps instead of the current split we see in game modes.

 

[kowalski]

That sounds like you can have it in game if you want 30fps instead

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I think it's 60 FPS also but not as solid as 60FPS performance mode.

 

[Strafer]

Why cant it have both? Is the ps5 not strong enough?

 

[Muji]

I feel like a 30FPS experience in a GT game would feel extra jarring.

 

[Atolm]

I want a 1080p120 mode. High frame rate is vital in competitive racing.

 

[jroc74]

Well....this is certainly interesting.

 

[Lant_War]

Would probably be better to wait a few hours and find out than take stuff from a leaked preview

 

[plow]

Why cant it have both? Is the ps5 not strong enough?

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Spiderman, Ratchet and i think Metro Exodus offer both.

 

[Raigor]

Why cant it have both? Is the ps5 not strong enough?

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60fps and RT at a higher res? No

 

[benzy]

Spiderman, Ratchet and i think Metro Exodus offer both.

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Looks like they're using RT for more than just reflections:

"where Ray Tracing mode is activated for improved lighting, shading and, above all, reflections"

Insomniac's games only use RT for reflections and prebakes their lighting, Metro lacks RT reflections but has RT lighting.

 

[DC5remy]

30fps racing game. I would cry.

 

[EvilBoris]

I think it's 60 FPS also but not as solid as 60FPS performance mode.

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Hopefully with VRR in there too.

 

[White Glint]

Could be like the performance toggle in GT Sport on PS4 Pro. Highest resolution mode that runs at 60 or high performance mode that.... runs at 60.

I'm not drawing any conclusions from this though, I'm hoping they talk about this stuff in the SoP.

 

[jon bones]

suddenly worried steam deck won't hit locked 800/60 lol

 

[2Blackcats]

I read that as reduced resolution, not frame rate but guess we'll see

 

[SixelAlexiS]

I think it's 60 FPS also but not as solid as 60FPS performance mode.

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Doubt, even in performance mode they talk about "with a ceiling of 60 fps" so I think that RT will indeed be 30FPS.
Maybe they will do a 1080+RT+60FPS mode similar to Spider Man tho.

 

[plow]

Looks like they're using RT for more than just reflections:

"where Ray Tracing mode is activated for improved lighting, shading and, above all, reflections"

Insomniac's games only use RT for reflections and prebakes their lighting, Metro lacks RT reflections but has RT lighting.

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Then no way this is 60FPS in Gameplay.

 

[Dussck]

30fps racing game. I would cry.

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It would be like DriveClub. Looks great. Playing it sucks.

 

[Deleted member 30077]

Spiderman, Ratchet and i think Metro Exodus offer both.

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If you downgrade enough stuff even the PS4 could do "RT" at 60fps. Those questions are always silly because the answer is almost always yes and no. Specifically for GT7 the PS5 is not strong enough but that's always a choice devs make.

 

[Ariakon44]

Surprised there isn't a 120fps mode, honestly

 

[Fliesen]

yeah, yeah, people are gonna be like "options are good" - but i really really don't like the "Performance" vs "Fidelity" mode toggles.

Just make a well balanced, locked to 60fps mode that looks as well as it can without dropping frames. (so, basically ... performance mode, guess?)

Or just call the modes what they are ... "Gameplay mode" vs. "Screenshot mode" 🤷‍♂️

 

[EvilBoris]

Looks like they're using RT for more than just reflections:

"where Ray Tracing mode is activated for improved lighting, shading and, above all, reflections"

Insomniac's games only use RT for reflections and prebakes their lighting, Metro lacks RT reflections but has RT lighting.

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The last GT used pre-baked lighting, I'd be suprised if it was more than that - I don't think that the full on GI solutions or even screenspace stuff will hold up too well in fast motion.
RT reflections and Shadows from direct light sources seems fairly plausible - especially as the game is also on PS4, this is about as far as it goes in most games right now.

 

[gabdeg]

How about a 40fps RT mode 😏

 

[Praedyth]

Why cant it have both? Is the ps5 not strong enough?

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PS5 can do RT at 60fps, but then you take a hit at something else, be it the resolution or how the game looks.

 

[EvilBoris]

How about a 40fps RT mode 😏

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I'm fully expecting something like this for it too - the GT games have often been used for TV demos.

 

[tapedeck]

Uhh yeah if this means 30fps that's gonna be a no from me dawg. Not sure if this is even a thing but we'll know in a few hours anyway.

 

[Sklaary]

hopefully they will clear things up at the State of Play

 

[Shopolic]

I highly doubt this and maybe it's a translation mistake. They'll talk about it in State of Play if it's true.

 

[Arex]

If it's given as a choice then that's great. I can handle 30fps with RT eye candy once in a while.

We'll find out on the SoP I suppose.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Pfeww. It was going to be very dumb to just include RT just in photomode like it was presumed before.

 

[benzy]

Then no way this is 60FPS in Gameplay.

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I highly doubt they targeted 30fps gameplay as well. Kaz has stated he doesn't consider it to be a racing game if it's not 60.

I think RT reflections will be restricted to replays (we've seen replay at 30fps in the Daytona vid but the gameplay portion was 60). They could probably get RT GI and shaders at 60fps for gameplay.

 

[behOemoth]

Real time global illumination would be pretty.

 

[DarkVaber32]

I really do wonder if a potential PS5 Pro could handle both RT/high res and 60fps instead of the current split we see in game modes.

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If it has something like DLSS, sure. Even the newest GPU struggle to do RT 60fps at a high native resolution.

 

[Det]

We could speculate all day, or wait until the SoP later today. Let's speculate.

 

[benzy]

The last GT used pre-baked lighting, I'd be suprised if it was more than that - I don't think that the full on GI solutions or even screenspace stuff will hold up too well in fast motion.
RT reflections and Shadows from direct light sources seems fairly plausible - especially as the game is also on PS4, this is about as far as it goes in most games right now.

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GT7 has dynamic time progression and weather changing now, so I'm wondering how they were doing this while looking as good as GT Sport's static baked GI lightmaps.

 

[FarZa17]

Yeah, show that RT reflection when in race, please. I want to see.
I wonder if RT reflection quality could be reduced or limited, where there is noticeable range of rendering if they want to keep it smooth 60fps.

 

[slider]

Under twelve hours until the SoP.

 

[jroc74]

I highly doubt this and maybe it's a translation mistake. They'll talk about it in State of Play if it's true.

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One thing's for sure...this State of Play just got alot more interesting, lol.

 

[MegaSackman]

Is GT Sports 60fps?

 

[dusan]

Are they saying we will see that lights & reflections with 4K RT?

 

[jayu26]

Is GT Sports 60fps?

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They are all 60fps. GT6 just didn't hold it very well. Sport holds it very well.