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God of War wins TGA's Game of the Year award!
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If you spent 20-30 hours on chapter 2 and 3, that's on you though. You can see the credits in 30 or so hours if you focus purely on main missions. It's also just a lot larger in scope then GoW in terms of story and characters. There's literally more members of the Van der Linde gang then there are characters in GoW just in general. Which could be fine, but if you cut out all the "uh oh, we can't get through this smoke, off to alfheim" stuff, you have at most 5 hours of actual important stuff.
Which is not to say RDR2's pacing is amazing or anything, I would have cut the island adventure side plot, but its also spinning a lot more plates.
Not really robbed when it was competing with games that were more critically acclaimed and I assume commercially successful in every category. Was there one it wasn't against RDR2 or gow?
There's a lot of fat in RDR 2 story as well, Valentine, the two families, Bronte, the Natives, it's all the same premise all over again. I believe that it wasn't neccesary to have three chapters focusing on the same idea of making money and laying low until something explodes.
To me RDR 2 is like your favourite long show, Game of Thrones is mine, there's always some seasons that goes on too long.
I kinda thought the nominees were a bit weak but looking at the top games of the year on Metacritic, I can't think of anything that I'd really fight for. My choice from those would probably be Celeste though, maybe Spider-man. I never played RDR2.
I have a friend who LOVED God of War so I don't really mind it winning. There's a lot of love for that game even if you hear lots of negativity when it's talked about now. Of course discussion about it will be negative when the only recent discussion I can think about were threads around Joseph Anderson and Matthewmatosis YouTube reviews.
I have a friend who LOVED God of War so I don't really mind it winning. There's a lot of love for that game even if you hear lots of negativity when it's talked about now. Of course discussion about it will be negative when the only recent discussion I can think about were threads around Joseph Anderson and Matthewmatosis YouTube reviews.
Deserved!
God of War and RDR2 are fantastic games, but I enjoyed the former from start to finish, that's the big difference for me.
God of War and RDR2 are fantastic games, but I enjoyed the former from start to finish, that's the big difference for me.
The indicators were part of the problem. Why not use an auditory cue since you have two characters accompanying you the majority of the time. The entire decision reeks of "we couldn't zoom out the camera and keep visual fidelity" in other words they sacrificed good gameplay for journalist wooing visuals. During juggling enemies stay completely flat with no reasonable animation for reaction, it looks terrible and feels even worse.
God of War is amazing. It's a well-deserved win for the team at Santa Monica. I am glad it's one of the few games I've been able to beat in the last several years.
The fact that other amazing games came out this year and were also amazing spoke volumes on how much of a win this is for Santa Monica. I loved Spider-Man and Astrobot, I look forward to playing more of Red Dead Redemption 2, but God of War may just be my game of the generation so far.
Congrats, Santa Monica Studios!
The fact that other amazing games came out this year and were also amazing spoke volumes on how much of a win this is for Santa Monica. I loved Spider-Man and Astrobot, I look forward to playing more of Red Dead Redemption 2, but God of War may just be my game of the generation so far.
Congrats, Santa Monica Studios!
20-30 hours Is on the fast side, the game gives you zero reasons to rush those chapters and the game would be worst if you did, so no it's not on me, if you are beating RDR2 in 30 hours it's on you.
The important part of GoW is Atreus and Kratos relationship and setting up the world, it takes far more the 5 hours to build that, the journey to the highest mountain isn't the games story.
Also, despite all the characters only Arthur really develops well overtime and is as well written as Kratos and BOY!.
Dutch is done well enough and John in the epilogue is good,.
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It was my game of the year! Well deserved. In the end, RDR2 had too many gameplay issues, and I dont think we should reward R* for extremely crunching their way to GotY.
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8 years of sharpening an axe and growing a beard helped Kratos overcome the cowboys.
Your post has already been addressed, but I also wanted to mention that there's something to be said for games that are more than the sum of their parts. Even if each individual piece may not be the best thing in a vacuum, don't underestimate the cohesiveness as a whole.
This is the first thing I read this morning when reading this thread. Always good to start the day with a good laugh.
You can make that argument plenty of places but if in theory RDR2 had won every other category which implies it would have been considered the top of the top as separate categories to come around and then say "well it was the best individually beating this other title as separate aspects, but as a whole package the title that came in second was somehow better" makes no sense to me as a thought process.
This would only apply if it had swept everything else/the grand majority of the big and small awards. But as I was corrected, gow won some of the major awards that amounted to a higher experience to these reviewers when it was paired to arguably "the second best" in other categories.
And ?
There were many great games the past years and Sony always had an contender.
I don't think he was trolling. I lol'd reading it just because, despite all the quality since 2015, this was their first win they could get because there was always that game that topped them, and this year could have been RDR2. And since this started in 2014, they missed out on an easy 2013 win.
Bloodbor.... robbeddddd!!! Oh wait, no this game was my choice honestly amongst many tht could have won in it's own right.
I think it deserved it more bcus as others have mentioned it was a reimagining of the ip with some risky changes tht paid off!!!!
The best dev's on Sony are neck and neck and I love the competition.
I think it deserved it more bcus as others have mentioned it was a reimagining of the ip with some risky changes tht paid off!!!!
The best dev's on Sony are neck and neck and I love the competition.
RDR2 is infinitely superior to me as well. Opinions are opinions and as such, like I said earlier I couldn't even finish God of War due to it becoming a repetitious, insufferable slog from the midpoint onward. It just boggles my mind how much love that game gets; but then again, some people might have their minds boggled by how much love Red Dead Redemption II gets. Oh well.
Lol, I really wanted it to win GOTY too :(
I preferred RDR2, but I can't really argue with this choice. Both ar amazing games. It just depends on preference.
Oh definitley, I wouldn't consider RDR2 amazingly paced either. I think the entire island segment should have been heavily cut down since it only exists to showcase that these dreamed of tropical islands aren't quite the paradise Dutch was trying to make them out to be. My point was more that it's at least trying to cover a lot ground with a massive cast and typically focusing on some form of plot point.
God of War is a boring, photorealistic game?
You know what I think happened? That post must have been going by the Sony Template pic, lol.
It's the damn trees......
RDR2 is the game of the generation so I guess GoW getting its single year moment before it is mostly forgotten about is fine. RDR2 on the other hand will influence game development for years in massive ways and doesn't really need a single year award to represent how impactful and masterful it is.
Poor Spidey, not winning anything :(
Poor Spidey, not winning anything :(
gow3 wasn't as good because it stayed in one whole place unlike gow1 and 2 where it was an adventure. you were stuck in a mountain and everything looked same-y and the sky looked grim and grey. gow2 is still the best followed very, very closely by gow1 then ghost of sparta. if ascension stuck with the same combat it would have been way better than gow3. actually, it took some getting used to but once you're in the flow it's actually really good. and the only thing i didn't like about gow2 was that they toned down the traps and spikes. gow1 was so good because of those, reminded me of prince of persia sands of time.
Using an extreme impossible example to illustrate my point, but suppose you had Hans Zimmer compose the most grandiose space opera suite to ever exist and stick it into the slick art direction of a Japanese town ala Persona 5. Doesn't really gel together even though both elements are top of class. Not hard to consider what that would look like if you reel in the example a bit. Unlikely that such a game gets developed? Sure. Impossible to even contemplate? Nah.
Yeah, it was very hard to get a Goty the past years.
But having every year an contender with BB, UC4, Horizon and GoW is really strong.
And next year also with Dreams, maybe Tlou2, GoT or DS.
It still would be far fetched for me to say a game score would clash so much that it would bring down a game yet they consider it amazing. I wouldn't think gaming industry personalities would award it say score of the year even though they think it clashes with everything else and another games score meshed better.
It's all theoretical anyways until I see some posts of voters in here just like we saw the thought processes of academy awards members where they showed they didn't always put much thought into their choice for something.
You hit the nail on the head with those first two sentences. And I think GOW3 needed a shakeup itself, just because of the set-up in GOW2. Like everyone scales the mountain and then you're back to the normal, "Go to this location, face enemies, do some puzzles, sex mini-game," where it probably needed some kind of difference in pace. The idea of killing Zeus and then going to a different mythology the same game somehow (Jaffe and Barlog talked about this) or something along those lines is probably a different way it could have worked.
I don't have all the answers just sitting here without a creative group, but when you end with the Titans coming back to lay waste to the Gods, it just feels strange that the fight is over soon and you see Hades in another place, Hermes in another place, and a slow ascent from a couple other titans.
Hell, they had multiple contenders this year considering how many people I've read put Spidey or Astro Bot in their GOTY category. And that's ignoring a really great SOTC remake, which is saying something.
i actually don't enjoy god of war as much as the previous entries, havent finished it, and i've been playing rdr2 really sporadically (only played it twice, an hour each or so) - so i am not really that invested in either - but i'd rather have god of war take it. movement in rdr2 is so clunky it's like their arrogance stopped them from refining it in qa and just said, 'fuck it they'll play this shit anyway'.