You got me there, champ. I really think Canada is a racist ass place. My country is too, so I know.
Yeah, pretty much. Newsflash whitefolk (I know some here are already aware, but this is to the ignorant fools that do lurk about), if you say racist things, YOU RACIST! END OF STORY!I'm not racist, I just believe racist things and shout racist things and is known for being a racist, but I am not racist. No sir.
A fascist state like, if I understand the law correctly, Denmark?Because Canada isn't a fascist state where just saying a slur will get you charged. This woman's a racist cunt but she's not doing enough for it to be a crime.
Denmark prohibits hate speech, and defines it as publicly making statements by which a group is threatened (trues), insulted (forhånes) or degraded (nedværdiges) due to race, skin colour, national or ethnic origin, faith or sexual orientation.
Iceland, too. I don't think these are fascist states.Anyone who publicly mocks, defames, denigrates or threatens a person or group of persons by comments or expressions of another nature, for example by means of pictures or symbols, for their nationality, colour, race, religion, sexual orientation or gender identity, or disseminates such materials, shall be fined or imprisoned for up to 2 years.
How many Confederate flags have you seen in rural Alberta?As a Canadian (Albertan no less) I can tell you racism is all over the place here.
I'm shocked whenever there are people surprised by this. This shit is everywhere and Canada is no different.
Anyway, the woman in the video is repulsive and a complete moron.
How many Confederate flags have you seen in rural Alberta?
When me and my sister were little we were on a daytrip to Jasper and our vehicle broke down so my Mom had to head back to Edmonton for a rental. We spent a few hours in Edson and saw no less than half a dozen confederate flags. Felt like the segregated South.
Also, the culture in and around hockey is probably the most uniquely racist Canadian thing. Seems all the racists and bigots congregate to the sport. It's non-stop abuse if you dare not to be white and get into the sport at a young age.
That was my reaction. Like Richmond? Is she going door to door dropping off fliers?Imagine doing this in Richmond. There's more of us than there are of you! (Although something similar happened to me before in Richmond as well.)
Fuck this thread title btw. Needs to be changed.
I was born and raised here and have never understood it. I feel no real Canadian pride and certainly not any provincial pride. This place is pretty gross on the whole.
How many Confederate flags have you seen in rural Alberta?
When me and my sister were little we were on a daytrip to Jasper and our vehicle broke down so my Mom had to head back to Edmonton for a rental. We spent a few hours in Edson and saw no less than half a dozen confederate flags. Felt like the segregated South.
Also, the culture in and around hockey is probably the most uniquely racist Canadian thing. Seems all the racists and bigots congregate to the sport. It's non-stop abuse if you dare not to be white and get into the sport at a young age.
Anyone believing the contrary is delusional. We're just less bad on the political spectrum....but racism is very real among the people just as elsewhere.
I literally said this in the last sentence of the text you quoted.Racism has existed well before people were getting anxious about natural resources running out...
social shaming is more than enough here.
we've deluded ourselves into thinking we're a progressive utopia,
Now obviously not everyone's gonna be a saint, but I really dislike the narrative that Canadians are soooooooo nice.
You don't have to be a fascist state to be civilised enough to make hate speech and racial vilification a crime.Because Canada isn't a fascist state where just saying a slur will get you charged. This woman's a racist cunt but she's not doing enough for it to be a crime.
I'm still amazed that someone would call Iceland and Denmark fascist statesYou don't have to be a fascist state to be civilised enough to make hate speech and racial vilification a crime.
I never called any specific countries fascist. Has anyone in those been given a criminal record because of a situation like this where a person says racist things but without a threat of violence? If they have, then that's a pretty extreme law in what would otherwise be great countries.I'm still amazed that someone would call Iceland and Denmark fascist states
wiki on Canada's laws said:Section 319(1) makes it an offence to communicate statements in a public place which incite hatred against an identifiable group, where it is likely to lead to a breach of the peace.
What's extreme about it?I never called any specific countries fascist. Has anyone in those been given a criminal record because of a situation like this where a person says racist things but without a threat of violence? If they have, then that's a pretty extreme law in what would otherwise be great countries.
Why is that extreme? Where's the problem?Anyone who publicly mocks, defames, denigrates or threatens a person or group of persons by comments or expressions of another nature, for example by means of pictures or symbols, for their nationality, colour, race, religion, sexual orientation or gender identity, or disseminates such materials, shall be fined or imprisoned for up to 2 years.
Imagine doing this in Richmond. There's more of us than there are of you! (Although something similar happened to me before in Richmond as well.)
Please, give me a hypothetical. Like, you seem to think a law like this is not good to have, and I want to understand why.If that was followed exactly, then it does look like it could taken to an extreme but I don't know enough about Iceland's legal system to know how far they have enforced that law.
First off: the woman clearly wasn't insulted based on her gender. Come on now.Dave Chappelle publicly mocked groups of people in this recent Netflix special. Multiple people in this thread called the racist woman a cunt. People insult Americans every day on this site. I don't think those things should qualify as crimes and I think most would agree. They aren't direct threats to people's safety and fall under the umbrella of freedom of expression.
Have never met anyone who claims Canada is racism / prejudice free. This point is brought up ad nauseam every time a story like this happens in Canada.
At most people point out differences (or at least used to before alt right corn groups like 'soldiers of odin') with regards to things like histories of slavery and the KKK and stuff. Who do you people know that have been saying "Canada has zero racists"
I think a lot of these so-called non-racist countries have simply suppressed minorities to the point they don't have a voice and we can't hear any of their complaints. Most of these countries are over 90% white and have no black or brown people in real positions of power and/or wealth.
I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree or else we're just going in circles. Any hypothetical I give will be like the example of the woman in the video. You think what she did should be considered a crime, and I don't. I don't think insults and shitty opinions on their own should be legally punishable. If she were making threats of violence, then I do think the police should get involved.Please, give me a hypothetical. Like, you seem to think a law like this is not good to have, and I want to understand why.
First off: the woman clearly wasn't insulted based on her gender. Come on now.
Anyway, basically, it all boils down to "I think it should be allowed to insult people based on race, nationality, religion or gender identity"? I'm not saying you'd do that, I just don't see how that's a right people should necessarily have.
I feel that speech doesn't need to be without limits. I don't mind being legally unable to tell someone he's an n-word, or deny the holocaust, or call a man "woman" because he's transgender. Nothing bad about outlawing this kind of hateful stuff.
These insults are used as a tool to dehumanize and oppress. Words harm people.I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree or else we're just going in circles. Any hypothetical I give will be like the example of the woman in the video. You think what she did should be considered a crime, and I don't. I don't think insults and shitty opinions on their own should be legally punishable. If she were making threats of violence, then I do think the police should get involved.
It's great that people like this are being filmed and exposed nowadays, though. I had to deal with some public racists like that in the '90s (and including in Richmond BC, too).