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Naga

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Wanna bet they'll try to do the X1 reveal again but good this time?
Publishers really wanted what the original X1 pitch was, lots of infos to get from that.
 

LV-426

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The only way the camera is a negative is if there is no option to not purchase a box without it. That is really where MS made a mistake with the Xbox one. I really couldn't care less if sony and ms want to have a camera option, there better be a sku that doesn't have it that I can purchase because I want nothing to do with streaming and or vr.
 

AxeVince

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The whole article is about how not sure about any of this they are and you take it at face value smh
 

FTF

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lol seriously. That #4 is getting me all hot and bothered.
 

BadWolf

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What's psvr got anything to do with my post u quoted, u are literally just quoting with stuff which has nothing to do with my post.

You said people are forgetting the article mentioning PS5 having a camera, which they are not (and I explained why).

PS5 having a camera isn't news, it needs to have it.

On the other hand people are curious about Scarlett having a big camera focus, for obvious reasons.
 
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You said people are forgetting the article mentioning PS5 having a camera, which they are not (and I explained why).

PS5 having a camera isn't news, it needs to have it.

On the other hand people are curious about Scarlett having a big camera focus, for obvious reasons.

Theres more jokes about kinect 3 and mattricks xbox one kinect inclusion, but the leak says the ps5 dev kit has a camera too, so it's not like the joke is inclusive to scarlett.

U don't know PS5 needs a new camera, PSVR2 could use inside out tracking, and the article says its because of youtube and streamers, does not sound like a VR camera.
 

Dezzy

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That 3D render of what the PS5 could look like by LetsGoDigital is just silly. It says SSD Drive, when the D stands for Drive. Solid State Drive Drive? It has CD player like buttons near it, and it shows a disc drive. Whoever made this has no idea what an SSD even is.
 

SavoyPrime

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Not sure why MS is focusing on the camera, unless it has something do with VR. Surely they wouldn't try something similar to Kinect again.

I like the Prospero codename.
 

DeathyG

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Not sure why this is surprising. With MS trying to grow Mixer and Sony with PSVR, having a good camera will be pretty important.
 
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Detective Pidgey

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Also I don't get something...

Worst case scenario is that they bundle this in and we'll have to pay more for it because of that. If it's just a separate camera thing for streamers it should mean it won't take anything away from the hardware power, right?
 

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Those camera features sound like they're more software-based than anything else. I'd place bets on both companies just throwing something in with dev kits so developers incorporate features.
 

Cactuar

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Exclusives are a big factor in moving consoles, but they're not the one and only. And hell, for many people they're barely a factor. You seem to think that for anyone and everyone, the games (read: exclusives) are the only thing that matters for a console. This isn't true. They're a big factor, yes, but for many price difference (and to a smaller amount, power difference) outweigh exclusives.

Exclusives are great but their limited. Third party games are by far the most played games on either consoles. Hence for many, many people, power is indeed a major factor, hell possibly a more important factor than gaming for some as well.

Or do you think everyone jumped ship to PS4 this gen because of Knack? (Though this jump was a mixture of many factors, of which launch titles were actually lower on the list than the others.)

You're making a lot of ditto head/talking points arguments about me saying games sell systems. Including putting words in my mouth. Interesting that you chose to go after my controversial "games are what sell video game systems" argument and not the statement of the guy I quoted, who said...

And again, with the X the introduced the most powerful console so far. Nah. They are well aware of what the people care about that buy a next gen system.

I find it very interesting that you chose to go after the guy who said games sell systems, and not the guy I quoted who said the most powerful console is what people care about. I find that very interesting.
 

Haint

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Wiimote and Move technology is a solved problem that is effectively bulletproof these days, it'd be great if both Sony and MS shipped functionally compatible motion controllers by default (which would be required for widespread support).
 
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Ugh leave the camera stuff as a VR add-on for people that are into it.

Console + controller. That's all. Learn your mistake from the awful original XB1 package (Kinect built-in)
Just an FYI as this is dev kit stuff; all PS4 games require checking for voice recognition from the OS and are tested accordingly. This may not mean PS5 ones are bundled in on the consumer side, as with PS4.
 

Spider-Man

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I'm sure the camera is optional and part of a push for streaming. MS has Mixer and watch Sony start their own next gen too and likely why MS is investing more since Mixer has decent reach now while Sony would just be starting.
 

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Camera? But why? At least don't make it mandatory or bundled or something like that, please. This goes to both companies.
Edit: so camera for Ms of course means another Kinect while camera for Sony means VR. What else could it be, right? Gamers sometimes...
 

bsigg

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Camera? But why? At least don't make it mandatory or bundled or something like that, please. This goes to both companies.
Edit: so camera for Ms of course means another Kinect while camera for Sony means VR. What else could it be, right? Gamers sometimes...

It's for streaming. It sounds like Microsoft is building out an extensive suite of tools to make console streaming easier and far better.
 

Qvoth

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perfectly fine with a shit camera since i'll never do a stream
probably will be cheaper as well as a result
 

Ocean

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Lol at Playstation, a Sony company being rumored to have a worse camera than Microsoft. Sony makes some of the best cameras in the world, they wouldn't do the Playstation brand like that.
Sony is part of the Blu-Ray Disc Association, but they still shipped PS4 (even the Pro!) without UHD compatibility.
 
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