Hope the new Tales is good since people are starting to mention it here. Last one I enjoyed was Vesperia and then their budget just seemed to decrease after
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1500 dmg per stack of corrosion (overall dmg until effect wears off if I understand correctly) for now apparently and it stacks, it will also be very hard to not get hit judging by enemy abilities, because some of them have ranged attacks, some can kind of teleport behind you and just like the environmental effects, invulnerability frames from bursts don't stop you from taking dmg.
But these kind of reports have also been shown to be exaggeration in the past and things are always subject to change until release so we will see.
Personally I like having these kind of enemies that force bringing different characters with you but everything depends on the implementation. Things can get very annoying in the game.
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But these kind of reports have also been shown to be exaggeration in the past and things are always subject to change until release so we will see.
Personally I like having these kind of enemies that force bringing different characters with you but everything depends on the implementation. Things can get very annoying in the game.
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As a Hu Tao player the bleed mechanic sucks. SUUUUUUCKS. Ugh. Wouldn't be as bad if it couldn't kill you, but the fact that it can is terrible.
And what's this about the ability going through i-frames? God this design is terrible. I'm honestly legit surprised such a poorly designed enemy made it to beta.
Mihoyo A: "Hmm... What's the solution to players having too much damage mitigation?"
Mihoyo B: "Well, we just make an enemy that ignores everything you do!"
Mihoyo A: "Brilliant!"
Also, this just makes Bennett stronger, which is baffling. Secret Pyro Archon indeed.
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The irony is that it won't actually change the meta at all, since basically all meta teams have Diona or Bennett. It just makes shields categorically worse. And Zhongli will still be in all the teams he's meta for, because a big part of the reason he's in those teams is for resistance shred, which only he can offer.
Same thoughts here. Hu Tao is my main, and she's in a constant state of 10-20% HP for me. Zhongli is what keeps her alive.
This seems like an indirect Hu Tao nerf to me :(
Up until Ayaka, Hu Tao was my main as well, and I still use her regularly in my Zhongli team. I feel your pain. God this is such a dumb design decision. And if the enemy actually gets to ignore i-frames... I don't even know.
Unless they decide that her damage scales with her HP, ain't no one pulling for Kokomi.
Yeah, I'm also getting Tales of Arise, so my playtime of this game is going to drop dramatically. Oh wait, fishing. Guess my acquirement of R5 Catch is going to be a ways off.
Xiao on the other hand...
Yeah, Hu Tao can self heal. She'll be fine.
Xiao on the other hand...
The sad part is if her story parts were good then I could see people still going for it. But she ain't even get that much. They might as well have put Teppai in the gacha.
Not sure if you are referencing the same leak but the one I read said that the effect of the attack ignores iframes just like environmental effects not the enemy attack itself. Meaning if you got hit before any iframes and the corrosion status is applied to you then if you do a burst afterwards the bleed effect doesn't stop draining your life bar.
It could be like the Mirror Maiden attack that marks you where you can't avoid the attack itself with iframes but that is not what the leak was talking about if I understood correctly.
That sounds like nuance and I'm not sure if Genshin is capable of that
I know for sure I won't be running Zhongli in my Eula team.
I'll instead go double Electro/Double Cryo, or maybe Sucrose/Kazuha for crowd control.
The resistance shred is nice, but if I can get additional damage instead, then it's worth it. Zhongli was only useful on that team for the shield.
There's a lot of stuff changing about the new monsters and the bleed, so everybody should probably just chill for a bit before passing judgment.
Introducing an enemy that cuts through shields is one thing that I can handle but if they really can hit you through iframes that would be total BS.
Isn't the 20% resistance shred pretty significant? Or is that diminishing returns stacked with superconduct?
No one but me, depending how the 50/50 goes.
I don't mind pulling for shitters as long as they look nice.
I wouldn't consider her a must have. She's great no doubt, but not on a Venti or Zhong Li level.
She will be back in a few months. Just save your primos until then.
It helps, but say I run Beidou with her now instead, I get damage/interruption reduction and charge for her with Eula, this is in addition to the damage from Stormbreaker.
Not a must have imo (I have her at C0). She has some niche teams that she does very well in and is fun to play, but having Raiden isn't game altering in the same way Zhongli is and Venti used to be.
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There are scenes from it in the 2.1 trailer
No. Zhongli and Bennett. They're the only must haves.
Either way, still bad. It's literally putting you in a state where you're losing even if you're doing something that's supposed to help you win (and that, previously, had no negative effects attached to it). It's a knife in the back and then twisting it.
I didn't say they wouldn't attempt it. More of if they can do it well lol
Zhongli's not really needed on a Eula team tho? She normally runs Diona, and then Fischl or Raiden for superconduct, last slot is Flex.
Zhongli's good in any team, but he's great on teams that particularly have issues without shields. So, any character with heavily commital moves, like Diluc / Klee / Ganyu is where Zhongli really shines. That said, he's still never bad on a team, and this shield ignoring butthole won't change that.
Yeah, he was the flex slot, so I didn't have to worry about animation interruption.
Pretty sure most Eula teams ran him cause of that, he's popular in most Eula comps.
Now that'll be Beidou's role.
I didn't need Zhongli for my Venti team, so he won't serve any purpose.
I use Zhongli with Albedo, and I don't really have a geared replacement for Albedo atm, so until further notice, Zhongli will always have to be on at least one of my teams. That said, my Diona is getting there and since Sara is awesome with Raiden, I can make Xingqiu / Ayaka / Diona / Zhongli - at some point
Think they mean that the bleeding proc can't be evaded by iframe like the sheer cold mechanic can't?
Do yall use any uncommon teams or do you go for the ones you mostly hear are good?
I'm about to look at all my teams and break em up, switch em around some so I'm curious as to how everyone else team builds. I just go for who I like and whatever works, works.
I'm about to look at all my teams and break em up, switch em around some so I'm curious as to how everyone else team builds. I just go for who I like and whatever works, works.
Build to maximize your favorite units.
There's almost no one less meta than Xinyan but she's a staple on my Abyss runs because I pair her with my main Eula as shield support and a bit of a physical damage booster. I even run Def Millelith on her to get her shield to last as long as possible. I save Zhongli for the other floor.
Forgot to mention it's for my main dps Diluc
Serpent Spine is his best 4* weapon, so if you don't have any 5* Claymore get that for sure.
For me it's generally:
- Optimal builds in the Spiral Abyss.
- Random teams in the orverworld.
I plan to experiment more in the Abyss after I can get all stars comfortably. For me the meta goes hand in hand with characters I enjoy though, I'd never build (or pull for) a character I don't care for just because they're supposed to be strong.
If you have Ningguang at C2 or above, that might be a better pair.
In the case of the Ayaka team, Kazuha or Venti seems like it'd be better, for the crowd control.
Though of course, if you got none of them, Zhongli will still be ok.
So the new monsters can't damage you directly when shielded but apply the bleed status effect nonetheless.
Seems fine to me 🤷🏻♂️
And the bleed damage is less than burning grass lmao
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Seems fine to me 🤷🏻♂️
And the bleed damage is less than burning grass lmao
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I feel you, haha. Take your time though, it gets easier the more you develop the characters.
I use Diluc on Abyss with Serpent Spine and he's hitting like a beast now, it really is a matter of investing on talents, levels and upgrading some decent artifacts. I'm close to getting 9 stars on floor 12, just need to finish getting some of my supports up to speed.
I guess this is indeed more to promote healing more than to invalidate shields then. DoTs bypassing shields but not the hit itself seems consistent with how DoTs work elsewhere in the game (except for special cases like Azhdaha's passive damage not happening if you have a shield up).
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