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Foundation — Official Teaser 2 | Apple TV+ — Premieres on September 24
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Is apple plus very big? I like seeing this type of story get a big swing at TV, but I fear that its success will be throttled by apple plus adoption levels.
I only read the first book, but don't see anything of it represented in this trailer. Maybe it's based on later books?
Looks phenomenal but the trailer doesn't really pique my interest from a narrative perspective. And I love sci-fi.
I talked a lot of shit on Apple TV but damn if mythic quest and ted lasso arent really good, so I got some hopes here
Good lord, visually it looks better than some feature length films. You can tell there's passion behind it.
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"Save your legacy" is a lame tag line. But when I hear Pace's voice, I'm in. Apple hasn't produced much yet, but what they have has been pretty high quality, so my hopes are high for this.
From what I've seen, it's mostly an original story that just uses ideas from the books. It's as much of an adaptation of the books as the I, Robot movie was of the I, Robot book.
credit where it's due, Apple's had a lot more success developing their own originals than I expected. Hope this delivers too!
Hmm. On the one hand, it looks high-budget. On the other...it looks like it has absolutely nothing to do with the Foundation Trilogy, and appears to be creating a new story very loosely centered around the Foundation prequels.
That is...not what I was hoping for. But I also didn't expect them to have the guts to create a series that takes place over 1,000 years with different main characters each season.
This doesn't appear to be about the ideas of Foundation (which were about trusting in the plan and the genius who made them, as well as forging your own way when you realize the flaws of the genius), and more about the genius himself. Because of that, I am not really excited. It might end up being good (the cast sure looks great), but it's just another scifi series that has borrowed the Foundation name.
What a shame. Imagine hearing that Lord of the Rings was being made (for the first time), but then Peter Jackson revealed that it's actually about Gandalf and a plan by the current humans to try and take him down while he's on the run. Sure, it's got some of the same character names and locations...but it's not the same story at all.
That is...not what I was hoping for. But I also didn't expect them to have the guts to create a series that takes place over 1,000 years with different main characters each season.
This doesn't appear to be about the ideas of Foundation (which were about trusting in the plan and the genius who made them, as well as forging your own way when you realize the flaws of the genius), and more about the genius himself. Because of that, I am not really excited. It might end up being good (the cast sure looks great), but it's just another scifi series that has borrowed the Foundation name.
What a shame. Imagine hearing that Lord of the Rings was being made (for the first time), but then Peter Jackson revealed that it's actually about Gandalf and a plan by the current humans to try and take him down while he's on the run. Sure, it's got some of the same character names and locations...but it's not the same story at all.
I hope this is good! I have been really impressed with apple's output, from For All Mankind to Ted Lasso.
i thought the foundation book...the blueish one with the city, was about hari seldon delivering the report about how its all unsustainable than my memory goes to complete shit.
ah this one;
Looks beautiful. Has the sort of dramatic flair that I enjoy, with some very credible actors that are likely to elevate the storytelling above a lot of the high concept fantasy and sci-fi series flooding the streaming market. I'm on board AppleTv+ when it comes out.
A teaser trailer typically contains little information about the film and fulfils its intended function by building anticipation without satisfying you. You're more likely going to find further narrative content in a full trailer :)
A teaser trailer typically contains little information about the film and fulfils its intended function by building anticipation without satisfying you. You're more likely going to find further narrative content in a full trailer :)
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I read the Foundation series a long time ago and my vague memory was that it wasn't an entertaining series on its own at all, but it was more of a loosely connected group of fascinating concepts. Which is probably the point, iirc it started out as high-concept short stories for sci-fi mags, very similar to I, Robot.
Basically, what I'd say to look forward to from the books is the Men in Black quote "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." And coal powered spaceships.
And now that I've watched the trailer, it'd be pretty weird if they just work with the first book. But it'd be pretty hard to sell the later books in the same trailer, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's just the first few episodes.
Basically, what I'd say to look forward to from the books is the Men in Black quote "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." And coal powered spaceships.
And now that I've watched the trailer, it'd be pretty weird if they just work with the first book. But it'd be pretty hard to sell the later books in the same trailer, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's just the first few episodes.
That's one of the prequels, likely. In Foundation (the first in the actual trilogy), Hari Seldon is only in like, the first few chapters. Then it jumps into the future by decades and then centuries. This series appears to be about the time leading up to him forming the Foundation, not about the Foundation itself, or what happens to it (which is the really interesting story).
Do you happen to know if the hardware is better than the app on the LG?
i thought the foundation book...the blueish one with the city, was about hari seldon delivering the report about how its all unsustainable than my memory goes to complete shit.
ah this one;
Seldon's trial is just the prologue in the first book. You only actually see him for about 20 pages. He spends the rest of the story dead. The first book covers a couple hundred years of story.
What do you mean by a big swing? I mean, it's obviously got the budget, and Apple hasn't yet cancelled shows prematurely or at all really. The series is probably safer here than most other places.
Yeah for all mankind looks pretty big budget, and it doesn't look like apple is going to cancel it. They're not Netflix, yet. They want to support their critically-acclaimed shows as adoption continues to rise.
I'm thinking that because this series is "inspired" by the books (similar to I, Robot), that Seldon and his trial (and what leads up to and immediately after) will be the entire first season.
I've yet to use a bad Apple TV app. I've tried it on TVs, Apple TV, PS5, Roku, and Xbox. Streaming quality and speed is excellent on all of them.
pessimistic about this; looks like a re imagining set during the fall of Trantor rather than the actual first Foundation book
Exactly. Maybe there is a slim chance that they are only revealing the first 2-3 episodes...but I am not hopeful. What makes Foundation great are the big ideas (that take place over centuries), not the characters. Asimov was absolute shit at writing characters (especially women). The only reason you'd want to make Foundation is to translate those big ideas and then improve upon the actual writing. This appears to be taking the name, a single idea (that of Psychohistory) and then saying "instead of using the entire trilogy, let's just use the first chapter of the first book."
This might be pessimistic, but I'm almost expecting them (over 2-3 seasons) to save the galaxy and restore the Empire within the lifetimes of the characters (who will remain constant). 🤮 Or, to end the entire series at the point where scientists land on Terminus and form the Foundation.
I mean, it's more that there is no cap on TV seasons. Why rush through it?
For all mankind is amazing too if you haven't gotten to it yet.
The trial is the first chapter of the first book (and there are three books in the main story). The trial just serves as a prologue to explain why the real main characters are doing what they are doing (decades and centuries later). Maybe they could make that work...but this type of book series (effectively an anthology) isn't often well-translated to visual media since producers will want the same actors for long periods of time (rather than switching out the main cast every few episodes).
They've done weekly releases for their other shows, and I haven't seen anything that would indicate otherwise for this one.
I read these books on the verge of middle school and don't remember a thing about them. Same with Dune. It will be like going in fresh. That's a period of my life I must have repressed because it all feels second-hand. On the plus side, each story beat will feel like a surprise regardless of how close the script lines up with the original.
I love when I see these bad boys after Interstellar.
I'm not familiar with the books but this looks pretty fantastic and right up my alley.
Does Apple drop all the episodes at once?
3 episodes on 9/24. Then weekly after for foundation.
I love when I see these bad boys after Interstellar.
I'm not familiar with the books but this looks pretty fantastic and right up my alley.
Does Apple drop all the episodes at once?
Is that a structure built around the black hole? That would be awesome.