Oh I'm not victim blaming at all, and the question is literally why is everything but one type of post seen as victim blaming even if it is stated as not being such, in fact your post is literally the personification of what I'm asking.
To be fair, they're both awful. It's the kid(s) who ultimately suffers.What in the hell at these victim blaming posts? How are people blaming her after seeing that video?
How is the woman awful?To be fair, they're both awful. It's the kid(s) who ultimately suffers.
Oh I'm not victim blaming at all, and the question is literally why is everything but one type of post seen as victim blaming even if it is stated as not being such, in fact your post is literally the personification of what I'm asking.
The assault on the wife is of course the biggest issue and deserves the harshest criticism/ legal ramifications of anything in this situation, but to say everything else isn't relevant is wrong, the everything else is what directly leads us into this awful situation.
I implore everyone to watch the first 20-40 minutes of that video, whatever time you can spare. And refute Destiny's points.
if someone were to say something as low effort as "she is no saint either" or something in that vain then I would agree with you that there not really adding much and are probably just muddying up the discussion if not even posting in bad faith. What I was asking initially was why is everything from the lowest effort post to genuine topics of discussion all being lumped together as victim blaming even wen preference as not being such, why are people comfortable wrapping the intent of someone else's words and then telling that person what they actually meant with there own words, because it honestly all comes off as people building up a boogie man to then knock down to feel good about themselves.Ultimately what is the purpose of analyzing her actions in this? Like why is telling us "she is no saint", or something similar, an important topic of discussion in relation to spousal abuse?
I never said she's the reason this happened once nor did I imply that it was somehow her fault or even deserved, I never even mentioned the cardboard box in any one of my posts. But yeah I'm the transparent one. Your post is actually a great example of what I was asking, which was why do you feel comfortable manipulating and flat out lying about the things I said to suit your narrative to then "drag me".You are literally victim blaming her. You are literally saying that she's the reason this happened.
You're openly saying that her throwing a cardboard box at him is what led to this "situation", as if she were responsible for making her hit her twice.
But, yeah. "Just asking questions" and "What's so wrong with Destiny?".
So transparent.
One of the things I dislike about ResetEra is that it feels like there's very little discussion on most topics. There's one accepted type of response, and people who don't post it simply get abused. There's no attempt to engage with other people, take their posts at face value, and actually attempt to change their mind or perspective. If you can't change people's minds then the world will never change.
Yes, there will be people who post disingenuously, but I don't think that's a good reason to throw all discourse in the 'too hard' or 'waste of time' basket. I'd consider myself a cynic, but even I think that that's taking cynicism a bit too far.
One of the things I dislike about ResetEra is that it feels like there's very little discussion on most topics. There's one accepted type of response, and people who don't post it simply get abused. There's no attempt to engage with other people, take their posts at face value, and actually attempt to change their mind or perspective. If you can't change people's minds then the world will never change.
Yes, there will be people who post disingenuously, but I don't think that's a good reason to throw all discourse in the 'too hard' or 'waste of time' basket. I'd consider myself a cynic, but even I think that that's taking cynicism a bit too far.
One of the things I dislike about ResetEra is that it feels like there's very little discussion on most topics. There's one accepted type of response, and people who don't post it simply get abused. There's no attempt to engage with other people, take their posts at face value, and actually attempt to change their mind or perspective. If you can't change people's minds then the world will never change.
Yes, there will be people who post disingenuously, but I don't think that's a good reason to throw all discourse in the 'too hard' or 'waste of time' basket. I'd consider myself a cynic, but even I think that that's taking cynicism a bit too far.
I hate to sound like one of those MRAs trying to weirdly justify hitting women, but yeah like self-defense is a thing. That's probably about it, though.The video in the OP is gross and im glad the guy has been charged but this is really a dumb statement.
You shouldn't hit anyone man or woman under the vast majority of circumstances. But as with anything there are exceptions.
There have been some topics that I agree with what you are saying, but this definitely isn't one of them. There is no other side to this. He's a shit bag wife abuser. You don't hit someone in the face because they threw something at you, especially something as meaningless as cardboard. On top of that, as a man you don't hit women. This has been one of the most infuriating topics I've debated in quite a while because it is something so fucking basic that should just be the way it is with no debate. But nope, I was removed from the thread at GAF because a couple people, one in particular, insisted she be "put in place" and I tried to talk sense into them. But guess who was labeled as "sexist" and a "white knight" for believing a man shouldn't hit a woman? Guess which posters still gets to post in that thread spewing their 'but the man' nonsense? Speaks volumes of what a site stands for and against.One of the things I dislike about ResetEra is that it feels like there's very little discussion on most topics. There's one accepted type of response, and people who don't post it simply get abused. There's no attempt to engage with other people, take their posts at face value, and actually attempt to change their mind or perspective. If you can't change people's minds then the world will never change.
Yes, there will be people who post disingenuously, but I don't think that's a good reason to throw all discourse in the 'too hard' or 'waste of time' basket. I'd consider myself a cynic, but even I think that that's taking cynicism a bit too far.
if someone were to say something as low effort as "she is no saint either" or something in that vain then I would agree with you that there not really adding much and are probably just muddying up the discussion if not even posting in bad faith. What I was asking initially was why is everything from the lowest effort post to genuine topics of discussion all being lumped together as victim blaming even wen preference as not being such, why are people comfortable wrapping the intent of someone else's words and then telling that person what they actually meant with there own words, because it honestly all comes off as people building up a boogie man to then knock down to feel good about themselves.
One of the things I dislike about ResetEra is that it feels like there's very little discussion on most topics. There's one accepted type of response, and people who don't post it simply get abused. There's no attempt to engage with other people, take their posts at face value, and actually attempt to change their mind or perspective. If you can't change people's minds then the world will never change.
Yes, there will be people who post disingenuously, but I don't think that's a good reason to throw all discourse in the 'too hard' or 'waste of time' basket. I'd consider myself a cynic, but even I think that that's taking cynicism a bit too far.
This must be why we're considered so toxic.Yeah the biggest bummer about ResetEra is that you can't justify dudes beating up their pregnant wives without getting banned.
I always wondered why people make dumb statements like this. So, if a woman comes at you with a knife, I guess her gender would outweigh your natural desire to live? Wow.I'm not trying to thread whine but this shit should just be locked. There is zero discussion to be had. There is ZERO REASON TO EVER HIT A WOMEN UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. And if you think other wise or want to try to rationalize you need to be hit in the head with an ice pick and see what it's like to be hit.
Is this really the thread where you want to discuss to nuances of when it's ok to assault women?I always wondered why people make dumb statements like this. So, if a woman comes at you with a knife, I guess her gender would outweigh your natural desire to live? Wow.
My response was in general, I was just reminded of it in this thread because I've stopped visiting nearly any non-gaming threads. I only posted in here because I read that article in the Sydney Morning Herald and figured there weren't many other people at Era who regularly read the Herald.There have been some topics that I agree with what you are saying, but this definitely isn't one of them.
She said he played the game for much of their relationship, but the addiction only gripped him in the past year.
'He got famous and started playing six to eight hours a day for his fans,' she said.
'As he got more addicted he changed, he became an angry person.
'He wasn't spending enough time with the kids and it was a struggle every day to get him to leave the computer for anything.'
Ms Campbell revealed that since the alleged assault she had been left terrified after being subjected to torrents of online abuse from Munday's fans, including death threats.
'They even said I was a bad mother and should lose my kids,' she said.
The court heard Ms Campbell wrote a letter asking that he be allowed to return home, according to Mr Mercael.
However, Ms Campbell said this was a misinterpretation as she only wanted to be able to contact him by phone to sort out money issues.
In fact, she said the relationship was over and she no longer thinks he is fit to be the father of their children.
'After this, I've had enough. I don't want him near me or the children,' she said.
Wow, I hope she can get away from him permanently and be financially stable.The partner has responded..
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/aust...er-on-a-livestream/ar-BBQUhdP?ocid=spartanntp
The partner has responded..
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/aust...er-on-a-livestream/ar-BBQUhdP?ocid=spartanntp
The partner has responded..
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/aust...er-on-a-livestream/ar-BBQUhdP?ocid=spartanntp
Ms Campbell revealed that since the alleged assault she had been left terrified after being subjected to torrents of online abuse from Munday's fans, including death threats.
'They even said I was a bad mother and should lose my kids,' she said.
Yikes, that just screams healthy relationship.And she was 16 while he was 21 when they started dating. Loser.
One of the things I dislike about ResetEra is that it feels like there's very little discussion on most topics. There's one accepted type of response, and people who don't post it simply get abused. There's no attempt to engage with other people, take their posts at face value, and actually attempt to change their mind or perspective. If you can't change people's minds then the world will never change.
Yes, there will be people who post disingenuously, but I don't think that's a good reason to throw all discourse in the 'too hard' or 'waste of time' basket. I'd consider myself a cynic, but even I think that that's taking cynicism a bit too far.
He slapped her in the video, right?If someone watches a video of a dude furiously beating his partner in a fit of gamer rage and their go-to response is to put on their Sherlock Holmes hat and play detective, that kind of says it all.
Yes, there should be no debate on 'domestic abuse bad'.
One of the things I dislike about ResetEra is that it feels like there's very little discussion on most topics. There's one accepted type of response, and people who don't post it simply get abused. There's no attempt to engage with other people, take their posts at face value, and actually attempt to change their mind or perspective. If you can't change people's minds then the world will never change.
I always wondered why people make dumb statements like this. So, if a woman comes at you with a knife, I guess her gender would outweigh your natural desire to live? Wow.
She said he played the game for much of their relationship, but the addiction only gripped him in the past year.
'He got famous and started playing six to eight hours a day for his fans,' she said.
'As he got more addicted he changed, he became an angry person.
'He wasn't spending enough time with the kids and it was a struggle every day to get him to leave the computer for anything.'
So what exactly is the problem with the Destiny video, having only seen about 15m of it myself it seemed mostly fine from the small part I watched.
Also why is it that people see criticising the victim for her actions to any extent in this scenario as the equivalent of somehow saying that they deserved it or were asking for it, why is it you cannot deem her actions in this video as also being poor while not be seen as defending or justifying the mans extreme actions.
the everything else is what directly leads us into this awful situation.
The partner has responded..
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/aust...er-on-a-livestream/ar-BBQUhdP?ocid=spartanntp
What an immature asshole. Nice of him to put his audience before his own family.The partner has responded..
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/aust...er-on-a-livestream/ar-BBQUhdP?ocid=spartanntp
But then Ms Campbell said she would consider taking him back if he took anger management classes and showed he could be a good father and partner.
'I'll give him another chance for our kids, but only if he makes the effort and shows real improvement,' she said.