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For those that use the term 'Soulsborne', what term will you use after Elden Ring
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Souls game or Souls-like. Soulsborne was always a silly name.
Bloodborne is literally a Souls game. The only difference between Bloodborne and the Souls games is that it doesn't have the word "Souls" in the title. The name Soulsborne would only make sense if FROM had made Demon's Souls and Bloodborne at roughly the same time and both games kicked off the genre, but that's not the truth. Bloodborne was specifically created as a Souls spin-off.
So Soulsborne makes as much sense as calling the subgenre Soulsbornekiro now because Sekiro also shared some gameplay elements with Souls games.
The difference between "Soulsborne" and "Metroidvania" is that Metroidvania is a fusion of two very different games that had certain similar gameplay elements that both became popular around roughly the same time (though Metroid obviously outdates Symphony of the Night) and kickstarted a new type of game based on both of them. So the subgenre was named that to honor both of the games that can be considered the progenitors of that type of gameplay.
Bloodborne is literally a Souls game. The only difference between Bloodborne and the Souls games is that it doesn't have the word "Souls" in the title. The name Soulsborne would only make sense if FROM had made Demon's Souls and Bloodborne at roughly the same time and both games kicked off the genre, but that's not the truth. Bloodborne was specifically created as a Souls spin-off.
So Soulsborne makes as much sense as calling the subgenre Soulsbornekiro now because Sekiro also shared some gameplay elements with Souls games.
Yes. That's why they're gonna be called Soulsbornekiring games
That's too simple. You want to make naming the genre have an easy mode? Filthy casul detected
For real I feel like for the last 5 years I've been seeing all of y'all use the term Soulsbourne and now it turns out everyone hates it? Wild.
Bloodborne was never unique enough to warrant adding ''borne'' anyway. They're all Souls-likes, whether it's Sekiro, Bloodborne, Nioh, Lords of the Fallen, The Surge. Anyone would understand the concept of the game if you described those games with Souls-like combat and gameplay.
At this point, that style of game will forever be known as 'Soulsborne' in my mind (or just Souls for short). If Elden Ring is that style of game (I haven't followed any of the coverage for it), then I'll probably just call it a 'Soulsborne' game and leave it at that.
I honestly think "Borne" should be removed from the name and just call it a Soulslike. Yeah, bloodborne is good; but it's just one game by the same developer made and names that way because of exclusivity issues. Souls or Souls-like is all these types of games ever need to be called.
We don't need tack on another game to the metroidvania genre just because a new good one of those released; if that was the case it would be called Holloxiomtroidvania.
We don't need tack on another game to the metroidvania genre just because a new good one of those released; if that was the case it would be called Holloxiomtroidvania.
Soulsborne is not an established term and Metroidvania at least describes the combination of two very different types of games, while Soulsborne is just… Soulssouls. It's a bad umbrella-term that seems to warp with every new FROM game. Is Sekiro Souls-like? No. Does it get grouped with Soulsbornes? Yes. Just call it FROM-like, when the term just means "similar to FROMSofts recent output", lol.
Well damn, no wonder everyone's losing their minds over this game. Consider one of them now.
I'm not going to call them anything like that.
I usually just say "it's like Dark Souls".
It's not even a genre!
I usually just say "it's like Dark Souls".
It's not even a genre!
Personally I never found the need to add the borne to Souls so I'll just keep saying Souls tbh. I do wish there was a better term, but people seem to be very particular about lumping other games into the genre for whatever reason. I can't imagine 20 years from now talking about the genre when I look at discourse around Metroidvanias.
They've said multiple times that people who like their previous dark fantasy games will be pleased with what they do next.
This was known a long time ago. They talked about three games they had in the works and what they were like. I think one ended up as Derecine. One was described as specifically something that fans of FROM's dark fantasy games would feel very much at home. They've talked about it in those terms a lot. Made it pretty clear it's that type of game.
But my main point is that FROM make a lot of different kinds of games that are nothing like Souls games.
Well...yes.
But we're excited for this game because it's by FROM. But it being by FROM isn't necessarily what would excite us. Hearing about a dark fantasy game coming from FROM makes me excited. But hearing about some random other game that isn't that genre probably wouldn't excite me. FROM make many different kinds of games that are nothing like souls games.
Soulsboring.
Which is how I react to most of these games, honestly. Souls? Boring!
*ba dum tish*
Which is how I react to most of these games, honestly. Souls? Boring!
*ba dum tish*
I don't use Soulsborne much I'll usually say Souls-like to describe a similar game. Or I'll just say "it's like a Souls game".
Metroidvania has been the term for decades and a new game in both of those series hasn't been released in a LONG time. Why would this change for Soulsborne/Souls-like games?