For the last 2 years, Nintendo has made a substantial announcement before or during their November financial briefing. What will it be now (if any)?

[Great Martinez Jr.]

I think two years is too little time to establish "a pattern". If anything, they holding a Direct on September for the past seven or so years was more notable, as well as they skipping it this time.

Anyway, I think we all know what we actually want to see them announce, and I honestly would be very surprised if they don't unveil the Switch successor before their next financial briefing. And if they don't do it... Well, we're simply not seeing the console releasing until the second half of 2025.

 

[criteriondog]

Not everything is a pattern.



Free my dawg Skinny.

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He's sharing a cell with Pyoro 😭

 

[Nairume]

Why would they deprive the Switch 2 of some of its most guaranteed system sellers by making them effectively cross-gen?

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Why would they deprive their still extremely well selling platform of a guaranteed system seller if it makes more sense to have it cross-gen? You don't know their plans for the new platform, so it's silly to make assumptions about what they will or won't do.

 

[cdm00]

Both of these announcements were about movies so if anything I would expect that precedent to continue. Maybe Zelda casting news or a Mario movie 2 poster?

 

[Neoxon]

Why would they deprive their still extremely well selling platform of a guaranteed system seller if it makes more sense to have it cross-gen? You don't know their plans for the new platform, so it's silly to make assumptions about what they will or won't do.

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Because of what Furukawa said about prioritizing long-term growth over short-term sales, & making sure the Switch 2 is as big of a success as possible would be part of that (I.E. making sure it has big exclusives that'll move systems). The Switch 1 will certainly still get games, but more of the kind we've been getting for 2024 (plus Pokémon, since Game Freak usually lingers on older hardware for longer than most).

Both of these announcements were about movies so if anything I would expect that precedent to continue. Maybe Zelda casting news or a Mario movie 2 poster?

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Zelda casting news would make sense, though they previously did that at the end of a general Direct for the Mario movie. If not that, maybe concept art for the next Mario movie.

 

[mavericktopgun]

Will it ever be announced?

 

[strangelove777]

Virtualboy 2.

 

[Nairume]

Because of what Furukawa said about prioritizing long-term growth over short-term sales, & making sure the Switch 2 is as big of a success as possible would be part of that (I.E. making sure it has big exclusives that'll move systems). The Switch 1 will certainly still get games, but more of the kind we've been getting for 2024 (plus Pokémon, since Game Freak usually lingers on older hardware for longer than most).

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Just like Iwata said the NX wouldn't be a hybrid device, right?

You don't know what Nintendo projects as lending more to long-term growth over short term sales. Could be that they see more big switch releases as helping their long term plans. Otherwise, why not hold back Mario Party (and this one specifically, because I already know the excuse that'll be given for PLZA).

 

[Neoxon]

I think two years is too little time to establish "a pattern". If anything, they holding a Direct on September for the past seven or so years was more notable, as well as they skipping it this time.

Anyway, I think we all know what we actually want to see them announce, and I honestly would be very surprised if they don't unveil the Switch successor before their next financial briefing. And if they don't do it... Well, we're simply not seeing the console releasing until the second half of 2025.

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It's less that they held off on a September Direct & more that they did it a month early (hence the August Partner Showcase, which served the same purpose of a bunch of reveals from Japanese partners ahead of TGS).

Just like Iwata said the NX wouldn't be a hybrid device, right?

You don't know what Nintendo projects as lending more to long-term growth over short term sales. Could be that they see more big switch releases as helping their long term plans. Otherwise, why not hold back Mario Party (and this one specifically, because I already know the excuse that'll be given for PLZA).

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Because Mario Party is released on a quick enough cadence to where it's not a huge problem. And if 3D Mario/Mario Kart/Animal Crossing are used up on Switch 1, there wouldn't be many big exclusives left for the Switch 2's first year.

 

[Aleh]

Just like Iwata said the NX wouldn't be a hybrid device, right?

You don't know what Nintendo projects as lending more to long-term growth over short term sales. Could be that they see more big switch releases as helping their long term plans. Otherwise, why not hold back Mario Party (and this one specifically, because I already know the excuse that'll be given for PLZA).

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They didn't hold back Mario Party because there's always a bunch of Mario Party games per console, and because it's not the type of game many people buy a console for.

 

[Skies]

If we get to November I just don't see anything for Switch 2 past maybe a clear statement of a 2025 reveal being announced. But in reality they probably will just recommit to "this fiscal year" which will somehow have some people still thinking a game awards announcement is on the table.

I think most likely there could be some type of update on the Zelda and/or the second Mario movie? Maybe a confirmation of the rumored Zelda theme park expansion in Orlando? The new device (if it is something legit) will be revealed this month so it can presumably be out for the holiday season. So I guess they could just point that if it happens.

But at this point I am fully expecting Nintendo to be on the OG Switch train for the remainder of the year. It really makes no sense to announce Switch 2 at this point when in all likelyhood it's not coming out in March and they currently have a thriving platform that can carry them through another holiday. The only people that benefit from an announcement this month are the fans. Publishers and Developers got games to sell this holiday 2024 and so does Nintendo. This isn't 2016 and the circumstances are just completely different.

Before anyone brings up 3DS/WiiU, please compare the current software sales of Switch versus those two combined LTD.

Switch: 1,266.46 Million Units
3DS: 392.02 Million Units
WiiU: 103.60 Million Units

Again the scenario is not the same.

 

[Neoxon]

If we get to November I just don't see anything for Switch 2 past maybe a clear statement of a 2025 reveal being announced. But in reality they probably will just recommit to "this fiscal year" which will somehow have some people still thinking a game awards announcement is on the table.

I think most likely there could be some type of update on the Zelda and/or the second Mario movie? Maybe a confirmation of the rumored Zelda theme park expansion in Orlando? The new device (if it is something legit) will be revealed this month so it can presumably be out for the holiday season. So I guess they could just point that if it happens.

But at this point I am fully expecting Nintendo to be on the OG Switch train for the remainder of the year. It really makes no sense to announce Switch 2 at this point when in all likelyhood it's not coming out in March and they currently have a thriving platform that can carry them through another holiday. The only people that benefit from an announcement this month are the fans. Publishers and Developers got games to sell this holiday 2024 and so does Nintendo. This isn't 2016 and the circumstances are just completely different.

Before anyone brings up 3DS/WiiU, please compare the current software sales of Switch versus those two combined LTD.

Switch: 1,266.46 Million Units
3DS: 392.02 Million Units
WiiU: 103.60 Million Units

Again the scenario is not the same.

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The Wii U was hella dead by that point, yes. But the 3DS was legit still kicking when the Switch 1 was revealed. And as Furukawa said in his recent Q&A, he's willing to sacrifice holiday sales in service of a more successful Switch 2. Plus it's not like the Switch 1 has any guaranteed heavy-hitters this year outside of Jamboree (EoW sales still pending). That said, if we don't get anything this month, I doubt we'll see the system revealed until next year. And if that's the case, the system won't launch until June at best or probably H2 2025.

As for movie news, maybe. Though you raise a potentially-good point in announcing intentions to do a Zelda expansion for SNW.

 

[shox]

Mods please ban daily switch 2 threads until actual news

 

[Neoxon]

Mods please ban daily switch 2 threads until actual news

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It's not just Switch 2, but also other potential news like that one clock or more movie info.

 

[SofNascimento]

Switch.... THREE.

 

[LumberPanda]

Mods please ban daily switch 2 threads until actual news

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Just click ignore on the main page, you don't even need to open the thread

 

[Derbel McDillet]

It's not just Switch 2, but also other potential news like that one clock or more movie info.

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So ... no news just speculating on potential news ... about a clock.

* shrug *

 

[Neoxon]

So ... no news just speculating on potential news ... about a clock.

* shrug *

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They could drop movie news or SNW expansions. The latter could still get rides for Zelda, AC, &/or Splatoon.

 

[Skies]

The Wii U was hella dead by that point, yes. But the 3DS was legit still kicking when the Switch 1 was revealed. And as Furukawa said in his recent Q&A, he's willing to sacrifice holiday sales in service of a more successful Switch 2. Plus it's not like the Switch 1 has any guaranteed heavy-hitters this year outside of Jamboree (EoW sales still pending). That said, if we don't get anything this month, I doubt we'll see the system revealed until next year. And if that's the case, the system won't launch until June at best or probably H2 2025.

As for movie news, maybe. Though you raise a potentially-good point in announcing intentions to do a Zelda expansion for SNW.

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Just looking at the numbers in my previous post, it would be safe to say that Switch is averaging per year more software sold than 3DS and WiiU combined. The platform is also in a much healthier state than both the 3DS and WiiU was in 2016. It would undoubtedly be a much bigger "sacrifice" for Nintendo to announce the Switch 2 this October compared to Switch 1 in 2016 of October, 3DS alive or not.


By chance do you mind providing where Furukawa specifically said they would sacrifice holiday sales for Switch 2?

I've seen that mentioned a few times but never seen an actual citation.

 

[Neoxon]

By chance do you mind providing where Furukawa specifically said they would sacrifice holiday sales for Switch 2?

I've seen that mentioned a few times but never seen an actual citation.

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The quote of importance is the last one, which is corporate speak for them saying that they're focusing on long-term rise in corporate value by preparing for the future (I.E. the Switch 2) rather than obsessing over single-year profits (I.E. this year's Switch 1 sales, including the holiday season). It's not that the Switch 1's momentum isn't important to maintain, but rather that it should be kept up in a way where they can cleanly pass the baton to the Switch 2. So yeah, they aren't adverse to revealing the Switch 2 this year (unless the system isn't dropping until H2 2025).

 

[TheEchosOfTheCyborg]

Daisy confirmed as a lesbian or wlw please!!!
Followed by The Pokemon Company finally confirming what everyone has known about Skyla and Elesa for decades.
The Capcom belly flopping into to finally confirm Cammy is a lesbian and it being hinted and long wanted by so many fans since the 90s

None of that is a joke post, that would make one of the happiest days of my life if any of the above was confirmed. Please?
🥺

 

[Skies]

The quote of importance is the last one, which is corporate speak for them saying that they're focusing on long-term rise in corporate value by preparing for the future (I.E. the Switch 2) rather than obsessing over single-year profits (I.E. this year's Switch 1 sales, including the holiday season). It's not that the Switch 1's momentum isn't important to maintain, but rather that it should be kept up in a way where they can cleanly pass the baton to the Switch 2. So yeah, they aren't adverse to revealing the Switch 2 this year (unless the system isn't dropping until H2 2025).

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Thank you for supplying the remarks.

Not to mean any disrespect, but I feel like you are reading into the above statements to support your own hopes for an announcement this year.

Single-year profits are in relation to the fiscal year (evidence by "this fiscal year is when we devote ourselves to preparations for the successor of the Nintendo Switch). The first statement also says it is extremely important to maintain momentum of this fiscal year for the current Switch. Which again is at odds with sacrificing sales this fiscal year with an announcement during the largest sales period.

That last statement could be taken many different ways. In relation to the audience it was stated for, that seems more like preparing them for profit drops this year in preparation for increased profits and revenue in the future (next fiscal year and beyond).

Lastly, the word holiday is never mentioned. The fiscal year ends in March. Any logic used to support sacrificing a portion of the fiscal year could also be in relation to the final quarter (Jan. - March).

 

[Greywaren]

Nintendo will announce they have an announcement to make at some point.

 

[Majora's Mask]

If we haven't seen the Switch 2 in an official channel by then, I think Nintendo may throw a "we will tell you more at the beginning of next year" and that would be it.

 

[klastical]

So both times it was movie news…. If this is a trend which I don't think two times is enough to call it a pattern then it would likely follow that it would be another movie update.

 

[SilverX]

Its only October 8th, lets not already jump to the "It was November all along, knew it" safety net predictions yet lol.

 

[Neoxon]

Thank you for supplying the remarks.

Not to mean any disrespect, but I feel like you are reading into the above statements to support your own hopes for an announcement this year.

Single-year profits are in relation to the fiscal year (evidence by "this fiscal year is when we devote ourselves to preparations for the successor of the Nintendo Switch). The first statement also says it is extremely important to maintain momentum of this fiscal year for the current Switch. Which again is at odds with sacrificing sales this fiscal year with an announcement during the largest sales period.

That last statement could be taken many different ways. In relation to the audience it was stated for, that seems more like preparing them for profit drops this year in preparation for increased profits and revenue in the future (next fiscal year and beyond).

Lastly, the word holiday is never mentioned. The fiscal year ends in March. Any logic used to support sacrificing a portion of the fiscal year could also be in relation to the final quarter (Jan. - March).

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Never said they'd fully sacrifice holiday sales, which goes into the other part of what I said...

It's not that the Switch 1's momentum isn't important to maintain, but rather that it should be kept up in a way where they can cleanly pass the baton to the Switch 2. So yeah, they aren't adverse to revealing the Switch 2 this year (unless the system isn't dropping until H2 2025).

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Either way, when they reveal the system will be dictated by when manufacturing starts. If that's this year, the reveal will be this year. And an October reveal would give them time to pivot back to the Switch 1's last holiday going into November (hence why I don't see November or December as viable reveal months).

 

[Dyle]

I don't think there's any point in speculating about some announcement that may or may not happen in a month and may or may not be significantly impacted by something else that may or may not be announced by then.

 

[RandomlyRandom67]

I'm tired, boss

 

[SpiritDusk]

I don't think the argument that "oh this should all be contained to a single thread" is fair. That's not the case for Sony or Microsoft threads. Think how many threads have been made on the Pro, for example. People enjoy the speculation, which is why these threads get so many responses. The thread-whiners are the minority.

Also, when this was tried with making a Switch 2 speculation thread, no one used it lol.
It's pretty much dead.

 

[mavericktopgun]

Wake me up when Switch 2 gets announced.

Sleeps forever.

 

[delete12345]

I'm tired, boss

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We all are....

 

[perfectchaos007]

Hurricane Milton will be ravaging Florida on 10/10. This is not the week

 

[Chippewa Barr]

I'm gonna say non-videogame media related to their IPs.

There is no urgency to reveal Switch 2, especially when they will still get those holiday Switch purchases. Switch 2 reveal in new year with release in March seems likely...and will absolutely not be impacted by revealing it in November.

fixed that for you. A device that plays physical and digital GB, GBC, GBA, DS, and 3DS games.

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I would pay a right handsome fee for a quality device that did this. It would also (probably) be my final gaming hardware purchase.

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Real talk, that'd be awesome.

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If it's Nintendo authorized, I will pay around $1000 for it, knowing that it will be supported for at least 5 years.

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The crazy part is, the Switch 2 (and maybe Switch as well) could have done this.

Switch 2 could still do it technically with digital titles, but if they made it a design requirement when planning the console, there could have been multiple cart slots on the machine to accommodate this.

Biggest hurdle IMO would be how to display 3DS games, but in a perfect world where Switch 2 is designed with all this in mind, the joycons could be attached both with the screen horizontally aligned or vertically aligned in order to give you two large 3DS screens above one another. Would be the be-all end-all Nintendo machine for me lol.

Issue is, they want to sell us new more expensive games!

 

[SpiritDusk]

I'm gonna say non-videogame media related to their IPs.

There is no urgency to reveal Switch 2, especially when they will still get those holiday Switch purchases. Switch 2 reveal in new year with release in March seems likely...and will absolutely not be impacted by revealing it in November.





The crazy part is, the Switch 2 (and maybe Switch as well) could have done this.

Switch 2 could still do it technically with digital titles, but if they made it a design requirement when planning the console, there could have been multiple cart slots on the machine to accommodate this.

Biggest hurdle IMO would be how to display 3DS games, but in a perfect world where Switch 2 is designed with all this in mind, the joycons could be attached both with the screen horizontally aligned or vertically aligned in order to give you two large 3DS screens above one another. Would be the be-all end-all Nintendo machine for me lol.

Issue is, they want to sell us new more expensive games!

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Come on, they're not going to introduce and release a brand new console generation in two months. A revision, maybe, but not a whole generation.

 

[Mory Dunz]

Daisy confirmed as a lesbian or wlw please!!!
Followed by The Pokemon Company finally confirming what everyone has known about Skyla and Elesa for decades.
The Capcom belly flopping into to finally confirm Cammy is a lesbian and it being hinted and long wanted by so many fans since the 90s

None of that is a joke post, that would make one of the happiest days of my life if any of the above was confirmed. Please?
🥺

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What

And this has nothing to do with the thread

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Every time there's a thread like this people bring up how the Switch still has great momentum and there's no reason to sacrifice its holidays sales by unveiling the successor before January.

Meanwhile, what I'm seeing is that while the Switch is definitely in a better position than the Wii was towards the end of its life, it's however experiencing some notable declines recently compared to prior years (especially in the West), to the point that I genuinely believe Nintendo will have to revise down their sales projections for the fiscal year.

And that's before taking into account that the only major release they have for the Holidays is Mario Party.

So, I don't think the "protect the Holidays sales" argument makes much sense this particular year. I think they honestly will be fine if they finally unveil the successor this month.

Of course, as Neoxon said above, production is what ultimately will dictate when they decide to do the unveiling. If the system doesn't enter production soon, they're not going to formally unveil it, and we probably won't see it until the second half of 2025.

It's less that they held off on a September Direct & more that they did it a month early (hence the August Partner Showcase, which served the same purpose of a bunch of reveals from Japanese partners ahead of TGS).

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Skip it, postpone it, bring it forward, whatever. You ultimately get my point, dude. =P

It was atypical of them to not have the Direct on September.

 

[Skyfireblaze]

I don't think Nintendo has to announce anything this year but not releasing the Switch 2 until Summer 2025 would be a mistake in my uneducated opinion. As others have already said releasing any new big game for the Switch 1 would be wasted potential and a non mainline Pokémon isn't going to carry the first half of 2025 by itself no matter what else not gaming related Nintendo still has up their sleeves.

 

[Chippewa Barr]

Come on, they're not going to introduce and release a brand new console generation in two months. A revision, maybe, but not a whole generation.

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I could be wrong of course, I just figured it'd be a lot different from last time since they were in recovery mode from the Wii U...it was NOT going to sell that holiday season so they announced the Switch in October 2016 and released in March 2017.

Keep in mind, they didn't release anything about launch date or price until the new year in January 2017 and halfway through the month, so it was only 1.5 months from release date/price announcement to launch. October 2016 was just a trailer showing how it could be played (infamous rooftop scene lol).

They certainly could do the same this time, show a new console coming in Oct/Nov, then show price/release date in Jan, then launch in March again...but I just feel they'd be cannibalizing Switch sales...but they also may not care as Switch 2 hype would outpace those sales anyway.

 

[Mr Swine]

It will be updates on the movies in production and probably some date for the next Direct Mini and nothing more

 

[PyroPaperPlanes]

Nintendo announces a collaboration with Capcom to bring us Dino Crisis 4 as a launch game to Switch 2.

 

[TheEchosOfTheCyborg]

What

And this has nothing to do with the thread

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I'd say revealing major fan favourite characters that would make a lot of wlw happy is a substantial announcement.