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First plot details about STAR WARS: OBI-WAN KENOBI
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Hopefully it takes place shortly after RotS, like a year or two. The original movie definitely gives the impression that a long period of time has passed since their last meeting.
No?
They didn't hear from him for two decades, in fact they never heard from him again. Why would they be bothered?
^^^ There was such a sadness in ANHope when you see him talking about Anakin, all those years since that day but now no wait wait wait wait wait they actually had this epic battle even after Mustafar. OK. Hate it,It will probably be really good tbh simply by just how good Ewan is in the role but I can still not like their decision story wise. I cannot wait until this series goes into the future
Kessel Run (source who stated bad batch is being made, and said a lando show is coming out has additonal details
- The main villain in Obi-Wan Kenobi, aside from Vader, is a clone squad led by Commander Cody for the express purpose of finding Kenobi. KRT speculates that this is the same squad of black-armored clone troopers we saw in the Bad Batch trailer. Edit: They also confirmed that Temuera has been cast in Kenobi.
- There are still two animated projects that have yet to be announced. Their speculation is a Rebels sequel and a High Republic animated show. KRT also claims there are 3-5 unannounced live-action shows, Boba Fett being one of them.
They need to remake the OT. Especially a new hope is very dated. They have their place in history, but action filmmaking has come a long way.
They seem to play fast and loose with just how well known Vader is to the galaxy at large. It keeps changing depending on the story.
When it takes place is also a factor. The closer it is talking place within the OT(i.e after ANH) the more well known he is as he keeps running into the Rebels. The many years before ANH I could easily believe he was pretty unknown for most of it.
When it takes place is also a factor. The closer it is talking place within the OT(i.e after ANH) the more well known he is as he keeps running into the Rebels. The many years before ANH I could easily believe he was pretty unknown for most of it.
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The first sentence in this thread says it takes place a decade after the events of ROTS
damn commander cody is one of my all time favorites in clone wars.
There's a great bit in the book Lost Stars when the imperial character Ciena is lined up with the other troops to welcome the Emperor to the second Death Star and she describes her horror at seeing his appearance and general demeanour as that of a eldritch abomination, being at odds with the more managed persona she is used to in holos.
If it's Obi fighting dream-Anakin in Dagobah's cave then it wouldn't be "the rematch of the century".
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The fact that we know how any potential fight ends already ruins that hyperbolic tag line anyway.
We'll be dead by the time that happens. They universe wants to let the main-line movies progress the franchise so that'll be at episode X when it moves to the future
There are retcons that serve a narrative purpose and there are retcons that are shoved in because of lazy writing and/or to inject more fanservice into a project.
ESB's retcon was the former, almost every other Star Wars retcon since then is the latter (yes, even Leia being Luke's sister).
The original movie also gives the impression that the prequels totally wouldn't suck and Anakin wasn't a whiney-ass teenager.
They are bringing back that whiney-ass teenager. What, is he going to be in the Vader suit the whole time? Or is he going to walk around in Spawn makeup?
This doesn't make sense. I can only see him being used in flashbacks, but he's way too old for that now.
Excited. For years I and others have maintained that this line left the door open for another encounter.
Luke:
Come with me.
Darth Vader:
Obi-Wan once thought as you do. You don't know the *power* of the Dark Side, I *must* obey my master.
Glad to see this come true.
Luke:
Come with me.
Darth Vader:
Obi-Wan once thought as you do. You don't know the *power* of the Dark Side, I *must* obey my master.
Glad to see this come true.
Yeah but you see IN MY MIND BACK WHEN I WAS 12 They never saw each other so clearly there's no way to make this work or tie it into existing canon.
Not everything is TROS, it can be executed well enough
Eh, people change. There are decades between OT Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker as well as a load of personality-changing trauma.
In fact, the intention of Darth Vader in the end by Lucas was to show that Vader was not cool which Anakin is built off of.
They can easily de-age Hayden.
finding out today there's a lot more canon nerds than I thought
surprised people would choose steadfast dedication to their own assumptions about one vague line in ANH, over getting another lightsaber duel between Obi-wan and Vader
This fight is going to be what Vader was talking about in RotJ when he told Luke "Obi-wan once thought as you do" about there still being good in him
Obi-wan brought a can of whoopass to mustafar, not an olive branch, so this is totally going to be Obi's ill-fated attempt to redeem him
surprised people would choose steadfast dedication to their own assumptions about one vague line in ANH, over getting another lightsaber duel between Obi-wan and Vader
This fight is going to be what Vader was talking about in RotJ when he told Luke "Obi-wan once thought as you do" about there still being good in him
Obi-wan brought a can of whoopass to mustafar, not an olive branch, so this is totally going to be Obi's ill-fated attempt to redeem him
But he revealed he was disfigured in Episode 3 to the whole senate to gain sympathy. Gah, Star Wars.
oh fuck
are we going to see more known clones in both live action and bad batch/other animated shows..?
I can't take anymore tragic shit with them I just absolutely cannot. We're going to see how they eventually get phased out, aren't we? I'm expecting to see some try to rebel/remove the chip and die.
are we going to see more known clones in both live action and bad batch/other animated shows..?
I can't take anymore tragic shit with them I just absolutely cannot. We're going to see how they eventually get phased out, aren't we? I'm expecting to see some try to rebel/remove the chip and die.
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I'm totally okay with another encounter, that could be an awesome emotional moment for Obi-Wan, but another fight just seems... bleh. Like it has to end in a stalemate so I don't know the point of an actual all out lightsaber duel. Hopefully the creative team has a similar thought in mind.
you don't know that for sure, prepare to be certain point of view'd.
This is 100% a replay of Ben/Snoke. Palpie will tell Vader he must complete his training, to completely eliminate the light in him. They'll find out Obi is alive, and Vader will be told to kill him to extinguish the light inside himself. Vader will fight off Obi-Wan, defeat him but not kill him (purposely or not). This defeat will nerf Obi-Wan, justifying how the emperor and co could no longer sense Obi-Wan. Everyone thinks Obi is truly dead, and Vader now finishes his training and becomes "master" of the dark side.
THIS
Glorification of the OT fucked up the Sequel trilogy's setting with TFA and gave it the killing blow with TROS.
The OT is not sacrosanct. Fuck the OT and the lines everyone keep repeating like it's gospel, TROS made it all pointless anyways, so why care? just make a good show.
Internet fans are always canon nerds. The general audience won't give a fuck though and that's okay
Star Wars is already so full of retcons that I've become meh about the continuity
In theory. But the way that played out Obi-Wan showed up and they argued and then fought. There was no appeal to Anakin to come back to the light from Obi-Wan, that came from Padme.
Which is how it should be. Why do they want to continue to turn this shit into, shit?
Flashbacks of them doing Clone War stuff would have been awesome and enough. Them fighting again for, reasons, just to have them fight? Complete and utter shit.
The horse is already dead. What is there to keep alive?
Just keep beating it and maybe something cool can come out of it at this point.
Oh heck yeah, this sounds awesome. Looking forward to seeing Obi and Vader again.
Post-PT, pre-OT is a really interesting and unexplored time period that I'll alays love to see more of. There's so many characters we could know more about, let alone the state of the galaxy and the changes it has wrought.
Post-PT, pre-OT is a really interesting and unexplored time period that I'll alays love to see more of. There's so many characters we could know more about, let alone the state of the galaxy and the changes it has wrought.
It was already cheapened by the prequels turning Anakin from a tragic fallen hero in a whiny douchenozzle who was already committing genocide and acting like a creepy incel even before he turned evil.
So? There are plenty of real life examples of regimes rewritting historical events to suit their purposes.
it is not beyond belief that Palpatine milked the sympathy of his disfigurement for as long as required, and later transitioned to the benevolent gracefully old statesman character
Recordings of the original speech could be altered and anyone sharing contraband would be spreading "fake news" and get a visit from the ISB goon squad
There's gracefully aging and then there's looking a like a fucking scrotum...
I was never itching to see an Obi-Wan spin-off but the age of the actors makes sense to revisit this now if they ever care to do anything in this era with those actors again and I supposed there is some leeway about Luke and Old Ben's relationship on Tatooine without having to really retcon anything. I'm not married to canonical details that can be chalked up to unreliable narration or characters withholding info, as long as they do something interesting with it.
I don't care for OT worship or throwing out everything old and only doing something new and unconnected. I just want good Star Wars content.
I don't care for OT worship or throwing out everything old and only doing something new and unconnected. I just want good Star Wars content.
"witness the fight between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader that we forgot to tell you about, which came after their final fight that we made sure everyone knew about since the eighties."
I'm interested in Hayden's return just because it's so out of left field, but everything else about this seems scraped off the floor of a pitch meeting.
I'm interested in Hayden's return just because it's so out of left field, but everything else about this seems scraped off the floor of a pitch meeting.