Insane. The celebrations aren't what's toxic here. It's the lack of in-game moderation within a game that allows such extensive expression. Folks can make racist shit in pro clubs, for instance. Folks can chat shit on mic and no one will ever do anything because no one reviews the reports.
This is the wrong move. They're taking the fun out of the game as a means of distracting from the fact that they aren't putting in the resources to combat this toxicity directly.
They need more FIFA moderators and in-game systems that promote pro-social behaviour between players (e.g. commendation systems in other games, sportsmanship ratings etc).
This is a disgraceful move and against the spirit of the game.
Just take all the celebrations out of online play. They are time wasting trash. Just go from goal to kick off. Get rid of the odious replays too and just have an option to view them after the match.
Fully agree but you know, that cost money and EA doesn't like spending that when they don't need to.Insane. The celebrations aren't what's toxic here. It's the lack of in-game moderation within a game that allows such extensive expression. Folks can make racist shit in pro clubs, for instance. Folks can chat shit on mic and no one will ever do anything because no one reviews the reports.
This is the wrong move. They're taking the fun out of the game as a means of distracting from the fact that they aren't putting in the resources to combat this toxicity directly.
They need more FIFA moderators and in-game systems that promote pro-social behaviour between players (e.g. commendation systems in other games, sportsmanship ratings etc).
Only thing they can do to make up for getting rid of the shush celebration.
After tactics and genius passes, it is for me. Whether it is real football or video games, I love taunting my friends when I do an extraordinary move or being taunted because I got owned or missed something. Even taunting opposite supporters while not insulting them. You know, some light-hearted fun. But I understand in this day and age many things can be seen as insulting but let's incriminate the act and not the disproportionate reaction 🤷♂️Taunting doesn't even enter my mind when I think of the best things about football. Like what?
So we should hide the problem with a half-assed solution not really solve it right ? Skipping celebrations all together in order to keep the pace of games and have a better moderated online space would have more sense but, yeah, let's withdraw some celebrations to "fight toxicity"...
this pleaseJust take all the celebrations out of online play. They are time wasting trash. Just go from goal to kick off. Get rid of the odious replays too and just have an option to view them after the match.
So we should hide the problem with a half-assed solution not really solve it right ? Skipping celebrations all together in order to keep the pace of games and have a better moderated online space would have more sense but, yeah, let's withdraw some celebrations to "fight toxicity"...
The spirit of soccer is very much that move. Top soccer players celebrate and defy the rival audience as a custom.
What a weird defensive way to reply to my comment about how most FIFA players are just dumb teenagers.So we should hide the problem with a half-assed solution not really solve it right ? Skipping celebrations all together in order to keep the pace of games and have a better moderated online space would have more sense but, yeah, let's withdraw some celebrations to "fight toxicity"...
if you'd bothered to read the actual article, you'd see that they've also made some updates to dramatically reduce the time for some of these non-playable sections and improve the pace of the game.
What a weird defensive way to reply to my comment about how most FIFA players are just dumb teenagers.
Honestly anyone getting that rattled by someone doing a 'shh' celebration that they want it removed probably has bigger issues.Fans complained to EA that certain celebrations or acts were toxic, or were commonly abused by trolls. EA has listened to fans by removing them and shortening the lengths of some celebrations.
and people are seriously complaining here?
What's wrong with some of you?
I would remove the word probably from your comment entirely.Honestly anyone getting that rattled by someone doing a 'shh' celebration that they want it removed probably has bigger issues.
Nothing wrong with me.Fans complained to EA that certain celebrations or acts were toxic, or were commonly abused by trolls. EA has listened to fans by removing them and shortening the lengths of some celebrations.
and people are seriously complaining here?
What's wrong with some of you?
Why?
Maybe I misread, and if that's the case I'm sorry.
A year ago EA started off FIFA 19 by allowing people to skip replays whether they scored or conceded. Then randomly EA reversed it like a week into the game. If you want people to stop being toxic, allow people to skip replays and celebrations. They are dumb. The constant shushing back and forth is dumb. Also stop putting rewards into the game which are celebrations that last a full minute and serve no other purpose than to increase toxicity. Seriously there are celebrations that mime cats and fish that last I swear two full minutes. I might as well go take a crap if I concede.
It's just a waste of time? It's essentially tea bagging someone after you kill them in a competitive shooter.
Maybe I misread, and if that's the case I'm sorry.
When I read your post seemed like you were implying I was somehow justifying this decision.
Gotcha, then it was just a misunderstanding from us both lol, everything's cool :)When saying that 90% of the players are teenagers (which is true, I was one of them 6 years ago ^^ ), I thought you were yeah. You were just picking the word "grown", I was more thinking "reasonable" than "adult"