I seriously doubt it.I feel like everyone is getting played and this is free marketing for the dev.
I seriously doubt it.I feel like everyone is getting played and this is free marketing for the dev.
In what way is EGS hitting you? Yes if you were a backer for Shenmue or had Metro pre ordered and the like I understand being up set but I doubt everyone here happened to be a backer of each kick starter game EGS money hatted. But thinking about it more everyone has a right to complain about what they want. I guess I'm just use to not having access to every game growing up with a genesis, a saturn and a dreamcast. I just enjoyed the games available to me.
I'm surprised that they haven't pulled their old unreal games from steam yet.
Please tell me what I'm missing here, I can't tell what I'm supposed to be seeing.
This could just be Google itself making the association since all 3 are being discussed across the internet with the commonality of "EGS/Epic Game Store" being attached to most of it.
The Goose game, Shenmue and The Sinking City as games you can be interested if you google skatebird. Dant21 offer me a reasonable explanation, but I think it happened too fast o_O it would be cute (and creepy) if Google could know somehow which games are in danger to be involved in a EGS controversy before even happen xD
Believe it or not, a lot of people in the world are capable of doing multiple different things in a day.I'm sure I'll get dogpiled here, but some of the anger in this thread I feel could be better redirected towards real issues going on in the world.
i mean, it sure is an interesting tidbit.
but throwing a storefront with infinity money that may eventually become your business partner under the bus isn't a good move for your own business.
This. It's obvious that in a time when store is rolling out and they're taking in limited number of games and if there's a game without exclusivity deal and a game with one, that they choose to focus on option that takes the deal, which is much more beneficial for them.
Not really surprising. Epic has already said exclusivity is their main strategy to beat Steam. A game being sold on both platforms doesn't help with this.
i mean, it sure is an interesting tidbit.
but throwing a storefront with infinity money that may eventually become your business partner under the bus isn't a good move for your own business.
to be honest besides the funny visual of a bird skating it doesn't look that hot.
i think it looks quite bland so far but maybe it improves a lot until release.
Why? Outside of limited competition the main advantage of being on epic is the fees associated but at this point if your not on the epic gamestore this early getting on it later isn't gonna be any better than going on steam/origin/gog cause it's gonna get increasingly hard to get noticed anywayThat is what I was thinking, it is a nice short term gain over the popularity of hating on Epic and getting your game more exposure, but if you are making more games in the long term this could bite you in the ass
But it won't work. Steam has never money-hatted a product to be on Steam only. They don't require or force games to be Steam only.What if Tim "Delboy" Sweeney is playing 4D chess with us ? He knows we don't like this exclusive bullshit and EGS is getting a lot flack for the exclusive bullshit they are doing. Sooooo by making skatebird a defacto steam "exclusive" he can spout verbal diarrhoea on twitter crying "wah wah why you picking on poor little me and my poor little company when steam has exclusives too wah wah wah". After all it isn't the first time Tim has tried to lay the blame for Epics tactics at steams door.
Well it is either that or Tim and co couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag.
That is a classic deflection technique. Of course people do ot spe d the entire day ot all the time they have bitching about EGS. But posters like the one you quoted want to make that the issue instead of the BS EGS is doing.Believe it or not, a lot of people in the world are capable of doing multiple different things in a day.
I just have to say its absolutely nuts seeing the PC platform getting the equivalent of "console exclusive games"
I understand the point of a store and they are well within their rights not to sell items they do not wish. The issue is quite different. The issue is the money-hatting field exclusives that prevent or delay releases on other storefronts and removing other games that were once on other storefronts for preorder. Also removing games from platforms/storefronts that were kickstarted with those in mind. Has nothing to do with not wanting a particular game on theirs.I mean.... that is how business works? Epic has a specific strategy and not every game is a fit for that. They are a storefront selling games. People acting like this is Epic taking a personal jab or something at the developer are completely missing the mark here.
quoting myself from a similar comparison with console exclusivity :It's not equivalent though. With console exclusives you need to buy a new piece of hardware. You might not have the room for it or the money.
Nothing is stopping a pc user from getting a game on Epic's store apart from brand loyalty and the aversion to have a second launcher.
What is the biggest differentiator for you ? how much it cost to buy a console compared to the ( free ) price of a new launcher ?
If so, let's ignore any other issue other than price then, and take Metro Exodus as an example, a steam key before the game became exclusive : 39.5€; EGS price in europe after the exclusivity deal : 59.99€.
If every games were to be similary impacted, the increase in cost given how much I spend in games, would cover more than the cost of a ps4 pro.. every year.
It's not equivalent though. With console exclusives you need to buy a new piece of hardware. You might not have the room for it or the money.
Nothing is stopping a pc user from getting a game on Epic's store apart from brand loyalty and the aversion to have a second launcher.
I mean.... that is how business works? Epic has a specific strategy and not every game is a fit for that. They are a storefront selling games. People acting like this is Epic taking a personal jab or something at the developer are completely missing the mark here.
"The aversion to have a second launcher" is quite the simplification of an issue that there's more to.
Using the brand loyalty term is also a sign of you perhaps not completely understanding the situation fully.
I did not claim they were comparing Sweeney to Hitler at all. What? I just think "sick fucks" is reserved for actual sick fucks, not people like Sweeney. He's an asshole no doubt, but language matters and "sick fucks" doesn't apply here and is indeed a hyperbolic thing to say. That's all I said.Naaaahhhh i think you really did tell someone to check the hyperbole while claiming they were comparing tim sweeney to hitler. I think there was a theme going about calling anyone with choice words an unhinged rage gamer and you got a little carried away.
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This situation is confusing to me but fuck epic and damn that's a cute bird.
GOG has some specific rules that they set, as does Epic right now, about what games we can put [on them], what other stores they can be available in.
Imagine calling yourself a sage, thinking you are wise and that you know your stuff so you gotta make a post and end with nonsense like this.It's not equivalent though. With console exclusives you need to buy a new piece of hardware. You might not have the room for it or the money.
Nothing is stopping a pc user from getting a game on Epic's store apart from brand loyalty and the aversion to have a second launcher.
I did not claim they were comparing Sweeney to Hitler at all. What? I just think "sick fucks" is reserved for actual sick fucks, not people like Sweeney. He's an asshole no doubt, but language matters and "sick fucks" doesn't apply here and is indeed a hyperbolic thing to say. That's all I said.
Maybe don't read too much into things and tell others what they actually meant next time lol.
Problem is I never did that. I never said they compared Sweeney to Hitler, I said "sick fucks" isn't applicable to Tim Sweeney and brought examples where it actually is.It seems like we both get up for work at the same time and both dislike putting words in people's mouths.
The Goose game, Shenmue and The Sinking City as games you can be interested if you google skatebird. Dant21 offer me a reasonable explanation, but I think it happened too fast o_O it would be cute (and creepy) if Google could know somehow which games are in danger to be involved in a EGS controversy before even happen xD
At some point you'd think people would just get the point of what EGS is doing here and move on with their lives. When they do something actually relevant then the rage might be justified, but this is just a bitch-fest fueled by already known issues with EGS and probably more by their lack of bandwidth than their market strategy/policy.
i mean, it sure is an interesting tidbit.
but throwing a storefront with infinity money that may eventually become your business partner under the bus isn't a good move for your own business.
It's not equivalent though. With console exclusives you need to buy a new piece of hardware. You might not have the room for it or the money.
Nothing is stopping a pc user from getting a game on Epic's store apart from brand loyalty and the aversion to have a second launcher.
It's not equivalent though. With console exclusives you need to buy a new piece of hardware. You might not have the room for it or the money.
Nothing is stopping a pc user from getting a game on Epic's store apart from brand loyalty and the aversion to have a second launcher.