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How long will Linda Yaccarino last as the new CEO of Twitter/𝕏?

  • She will not make it to her desk

    Votes: 176 13.1%

  • She will be out within a month

    Votes: 100 7.4%

  • She will be out before 9/11

    Votes: 201 14.9%

  • She will not last to "𝕏"-mess - you get it right? 🤣

    Votes: 344 25.5%

  • She will be there for less than a year

    Votes: 312 23.1%

  • She will be there till the end of: The Dark World

    Votes: 215 15.9%
  • Total voters
    1,348
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krazen

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El Bombastico said:
The clusterfuck of Twitter this past week has exceeded even my most pessimistic predictions. I cannot imagine what the state of it will be in two more weeks.
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Its sad, its my main…pretty much only social media platform. Ironically there's big band playing while the Titanic sinks so the app has been pretty entertaining 24-7 since from Musk dunks, to people playing with the non existent moderation for funny purposes.


View: https://twitter.com/dmoritzrabson/status/1588929561148129281?s=46&t=k8Xibne14vj4sldXvJ1OhA


Its basically:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
youtu.be youtu.be
 
Casa

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What does "creator monetization" mean? Like letting users attach ads to their content? Why on earth would anyone put up with that?
 
mnk

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Casa said:
What does "creator monetization" mean? Like letting users attach ads to their content? Why on earth would anyone put up with that?
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Probably means letting users charge money for content, like turning individual Twitter accounts into mini Patreons or OnlyFans. Will go over great when scammers pay $8 to pretend to be an artist or porn star and then charge unsuspecting fans for stuff they found on the internet.
 
ZedLilIndPum

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Election Night Twitter will be wild. Maybe something will go down from the traffic surge and there won't be anybody to restore it? That might actually end up being a good thing for democracy.
 
Casa

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scitek said:
I believe they're going to make it possible to paywall content. Like Patreon or OnlyFans.
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mnk said:
Probably means letting users charge money for content, like turning individual Twitter accounts into mini Patreons or OnlyFans. Will go over great when scammers pay $8 to pretend to be an artist or porn star and then charge unsuspecting fans for stuff they found on the internet.
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Manu said:
It's charging for things that were previously free.
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whatsinaname said:
Think Substack/Patreon/OnlyFans.

That + the attaching text to tweet means someone like NYT or WSJ can tweet and article and lock behind paywall.
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What an unbelievably stupid idea. I would instantly unfollow anyone who tried to charge for me to see one of their tweets. And I'm sure many others would do the same.
 
Biske

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It wild that Musk doesn't understand that what made twitter or any social media app successful is that every shit lord idiot and all us regular idiots can make accounts for free and view things for free.

Nobody is like "I wanna pay to see some tweets!"

The best you can do for monetization is ads and courting advertisers. Any moron can see this.
 
Kschreck

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ZedLilIndPum said:
Election Night Twitter will be wild. Maybe something will go down from the traffic surge and there won't be anybody to restore it? That might actually end up being a good thing for democracy.
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Looking at the polls I'm seeing, I'm not very optimistic for the future of "Democracy" anymore. Hoping and praying for a miracle next week. My anxiety is through the roof with Republicans talking about hunting Democrats and their families, going after businesses that don't give them money and all the other dictatorship they are "promising" to their drooling supporters every damn day at those Hitler style rallies.
 
Shoichi

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Casa said:
What does "creator monetization" mean? Like letting users attach ads to their content? Why on earth would anyone put up with that?
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There was talk about Twitter including paid tweets/media for users. Think Patreon. So likely someone would be caught with a "sub for $x to view tweet" when they click on a tweet that is clouded out
 
BWoog

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Biske said:
It wild that Musk doesn't understand that what made twitter or any social media app successful is that every shit lord idiot and all us regular idiots can make accounts for free and view things for free.

Nobody is like "I wanna pay to see some tweets!"

The best you can do for monetization is ads and courting advertisers. Any moron can see this.
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Yeah but Musk threatened all potential advertisers who make up 90% of Twitter's revenue and....HE'S A GENIUS!
 
ExtremelyBitter

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Casa said:
What an unbelievably stupid idea. I would instantly unfollow anyone who tried to charge for me to see one of their tweets. And I'm sure many others would do the same.
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Honestly, grafting a fully-fledged Patreon on to Twitter could be brilliant--IF they could improve their video compression, adding in the expanded text option combined with Twitter's existing reach has some really solid value behind it. Most Patreon creators I've followed distribute backer-only videos as unlisted YouTube videos. Giving them a system everyone already uses to manage subs, that allowed for frictionless permanent or temporary backer-only content, could be huge if it was set up to really support the types of content people use Patreon for.

That said, the timeline Musk is trying to cram this all through on does make it seem likely that it's going to launch as just a shitty 'insert coins, see tweet' setup. But of all the things that have been floated as a post-Musk business model, bringing in Patreon features is one of the less bad to me.
 
BWoog

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Wait hold on a second...Musk is pulling back on servers and shit right, while simultaneously allowing folks to post giant bandwidth draining videos if they're verified? Won't that crash the system?
 
SquirrelSr

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Why would advertisers go through the trouble of dealing with Twitter and Elon when they could just cut out the middle man and sponsor the content creators directly?
 
Green

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Kinvara said:
I like how Elon's claiming that all of these features are coming in two weeks after laying off so much of the staff.
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BWoog said:
Wait hold on a second...Musk is pulling back on servers and shit right, while simultaneously allowing folks to post giant bandwidth draining videos if they're verified? Won't that crash the system?
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No because $8!
 
DanGo

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ExtremelyBitter said:
Honestly, grafting a fully-fledged Patreon on to Twitter could be brilliant--IF they could improve their video compression, adding in the expanded text option combined with Twitter's existing reach has some really solid value behind it. Most Patreon creators I've followed distribute backer-only videos as unlisted YouTube videos. Giving them a system everyone already uses to manage subs, that allowed for frictionless permanent or temporary backer-only content, could be huge if it was set up to really support the types of content people use Patreon for.

That said, the timeline Musk is trying to cram this all through on does make it seem likely that it's going to launch as just a shitty 'insert coins, see tweet' setup. But of all the things that have been floated as a post-Musk business model, bringing in Patreon features is one of the less bad to me.
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It's not a terrible idea in a vacuum. Creators have always used Twitter to point followers to other sites where they may have paid content, so Twitter gets left out of the profit loop.

The problem is, who wants to shift gears towards a platform run by narcissist troll eager to make said platform accepting of bigots and scammers? Who wants to invest in building their space on Twitter, especially when the products that will enable it are being rushed through development by skeleton crews? And when Musk himself has an attention span that makes Google's product support look healthy and long term? Also, the gutting of infrastructure support, lol.
 
Vinc

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Demon Lizardman said:
Might be the death of Twitter, thank god
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I really like Twitter :( At least I like my feed as I spent yeaaars curating it and finding good people to follow. I'll be sad if it dies, but clearly Elon is doing his best to make it happen. I'm sick of that guy and his ego, he's like a bratty teenager given far too much power. Textbook example of why billionaires should not exist.
 
Dust

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People were paying over $10k for those checkmarks? Are you shitting me? ヽ(ﾟДﾟ)ﾉ
 
EagleClaw

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SquirrelSr said:
Why would advertisers go through the trouble of dealing with Twitter and Elon when they could just cut out the middle man and sponsor the content creators directly?
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They are already doing that.
Influencers are a thing.
Those influencers use twitter, facebook, youtube and instagram to present products and services.
 
finalflame

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EagleClaw said:
They are already doing that.
Influencers are a thing.
Those influencers use twitter, facebook, youtube and instagram to present products and services.
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Not to mention this isn't unusua; TikTok has what's called the "Creator marketplace", where brands can shop for creators that are popular with the demographics they'd like to target, and ask for collabs. It's part of the TikTok Ads platform, which is seeing insane growth.

With that said..I'm not sure that works for Twitter, which isn't really about rich media, but just tweets. Elon is a fucking douche, I'm sure he'll fuck it up.
 
Mandos

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Kinvara said:
I like how Elon's claiming that all of these features are coming in two weeks after laying off so much of the staff.
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Don't forget Both the mass rank and file payoff and the executive with cause layoffs are both going to be nasty and painful suits with the company being in California. His assets are gonna be in trouble. If I had Tesla stock I'd be pulling out now
 
Akabeko

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I went ahead and deleted the twitter app from my phone. Might as well work on breaking the addiction early…
 
EagleClaw

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finalflame said:
Not to mention this isn't unusua; TikTok has what's called the "Creator marketplace", where brands can shop for creators that are popular with the demographics they'd like to target, and ask for collabs. It's part of the TikTok Ads platform, which is seeing insane growth.

With that said..I'm not sure that works for Twitter, which isn't really about rich media, but just tweets. Elon is a fucking douche, I'm sure he'll fuck it up.
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Musk will not see a cent from influencers.
Unless he blocks tweets that talk about someones new lipstick.
 
TarpitCarnivore

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ExtremelyBitter said:
Honestly, grafting a fully-fledged Patreon on to Twitter could be brilliant--IF they could improve their video compression, adding in the expanded text option combined with Twitter's existing reach has some really solid value behind it. Most Patreon creators I've followed distribute backer-only videos as unlisted YouTube videos. Giving them a system everyone already uses to manage subs, that allowed for frictionless permanent or temporary backer-only content, could be huge if it was set up to really support the types of content people use Patreon for.

That said, the timeline Musk is trying to cram this all through on does make it seem likely that it's going to launch as just a shitty 'insert coins, see tweet' setup. But of all the things that have been floated as a post-Musk business model, bringing in Patreon features is one of the less bad to me.
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No creator relying on patreon or substack or only fans is going to willingly jump to using Twitter full tilt. Those 3 platforms have a proven track record in their niche areas.
 
eonden

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Green said:
Yeah... about that...


View: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589019295295897600


View: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589024671252770833


...They're also literally testing in prod right now it's nuts...
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How does he think people use Twitter? People use Twitter to quickly read stuff and get pieces of information. Adding 5min or more videos with their current video player (which is shit in things that require you to quickly get where you want and pause) and shit ability to see video / follow stuff is a stupid.

Musk literally commiting the mistake of trying to please every single random person by adding functionality that will go against the core principles of his product, while also adding ton of tech debt and increasing server cost.

It also rises questions of how the fuck does he use twitter that he believes something like that is a good thing?
 
TarpitCarnivore

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eonden said:
How does he think people use Twitter? People use Twitter to quickly read stuff and get pieces of information. Adding 5min or more videos with their current video player (which is shit in things that require you to quickly get where you want and pause) and shit ability to see video / follow stuff is a stupid.

Musk literally commiting the mistake of trying to please every single random person by adding functionality that will go against the core principles of his product.
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I've said it in here before but Twitter had 3 CEOs before Parag, all of whom had deep ties to original days of Twitter (even co founders) and none of them could make their big vision of what Twitter could be into something more than it is. Twitter has routinely thrown so much stuff at the wall hoping it sticks or giving up too soon (Vine, Periscope, Clubhouse clone, Fleets, Blue, etc). It's ludicrous to think that some how Musk has some holy grail of an idea to rise Twitter beyond what it's been for 10 years.

I've seen so many hot takes from VC brain trusts about "what Twitter must do". Not a single one has ever had overlap or consistency between them.

Long winded way of saying: it's not like Twitter has one glaring flaw or whatever. It's literally an issue of "how do we monetize better". That's it
 
EagleClaw

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He really wants to make his all-in-one youtube/instagram/twitter app.
Live streaming on twitter might also become a thing.

Maybe he will learn about the importance of moderation and verification.
He is still in learning phase and asks people on twitter how monetization on youtube works.
 
The Deleter

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I don't think people really understand how much the new checkmark system is ready to fuck up twitter's algo now; only the musk stans will buy them, so as a result their voice will become the most amplified. Those on the fence will be drowned out, and what you're left with will be that dominating the website.

It's going to become so unbearable it'll actually be a selling point for that base outright. The demographic is going to change overnight if it hasn't already
 
rjinaz

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I dont about you all but I used twitter as a news stream basically and for quips from my favorite celebrities. I have exactly zero interest in using it for porn, patreon or podcasts and arent there already multiple places that do all of that better and arent run by a nutters like Elon Musk?

I guess I do not get any of the excitement about sweeping changes into things that already exist.
 
Carn

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DanGo said:
It's not a terrible idea in a vacuum. Creators have always used Twitter to point followers to other sites where they may have paid content, so Twitter gets left out of the profit loop.

The problem is, who wants to shift gears towards a platform run by narcissist troll eager to make said platform accepting of bigots and scammers? Who wants to invest in building their space on Twitter, especially when the products that will enable it are being rushed through development by skeleton crews? And when Musk himself has an attention span that makes Google's product support look healthy and long term? Also, the gutting of infrastructure support, lol.
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It's also incredibly hard to do all of this well. Social media is much more like most SaaS solutions: specific services who are good at what they do, and are able connect to other things. The whole ambition of a "one stop shop" has been left behind in the 2010s since things get really big and complex really fast
 
Green

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eonden said:
How does he think people use Twitter? People use Twitter to quickly read stuff and get pieces of information. Adding 5min or more videos with their current video player (which is shit in things that require you to quickly get where you want and pause) and shit ability to see video / follow stuff is a stupid.

Musk literally commiting the mistake of trying to please every single random person by adding functionality that will go against the core principles of his product, while also adding ton of tech debt and increasing server cost.

It also rises questions of how the fuck does he use twitter that he believes something like that is a good thing?
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He's been going on and on about wanting to turn it into "the everything app" for months. Guess this is what that looks like.

Freezasaurus said:
Don't people generally ask these kinds of questions before they spend $44bn on a social media company? What do I know, though?
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