They're already on Switch but I think NISA would do their own ports through Engine, supposed to be much cheaper than localizing Japanese ports. All Cold Steel Switch localizations are different ports than Japanese versions.
EGS leaked Hajimari no Kiseki localization as "Trails into Reverie" for 2023 alongside Trails of Azure, Nayuta, & Zero [Up: Geofront announcement!]
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They're already on Switch but I think NISA would do their own ports through Engine, supposed to be much cheaper than localizing Japanese ports. All Cold Steel Switch localizations are different ports than Japanese versions.
This seems like an unnecessarily hostile response to a handful of people posting very tame messages about how disappointed they are that they have to wait so long for the next new game in a series that they are probably very much into. Like, of course people think things that affect them negatively suck, that's what people do. It's not entitlement, or better yet, fucking peak entitlement. People are allowed to feel disappoointment. Give me a break.
Exactly! I hate this absurdly black-and-white thinking that you're somehow in the wrong if you're feeling bad about the bad news when there are also good news. Like some weird toxic positivity shit.
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there has to be some kinda EGS showcase coming soon, right? these recent leaks have to be officially announced somewhere.
Geofont getting paid by Epic for a fan project like
The Geofront localizations come with all sorts of tricky legal Barriers(tm) that would be a challenge to get over, due to the large amount of contributors and nobody knowing exactly what lines "belong" to whom. There's ways around them, but it'd be a challenge. I do remember Scott from Geofront stating he'd love being part of an official project. If none of the usual spokespeople for the Geofront tweet about this news between now and that Falcom/NISA conference, I'm going to assume a deal of sorts was reached.
but don't you need Cold Steel and Zero/Azure background to play this? I played only until ToCS2 and couldn't force myself to pick up the 3rd one.
Hajimari/Reverie pretty much serves as a conclusion to both the Erebonia and Crossbell arcs, so yeah, playing that game without the previous 6 would be like playing 3rd without FC and SC.
Yes, it's the conclusion to effectively part 1 of the entire saga
There's been sources confirming simul-release for consoles as well. This isn't going to be EGS exclusive, that's just what leaked
Fixed.
We are getting a day one localisation for Chinese and Korean.
The assumption is that this is NISA trying to go with the least bad option of solving the Crossbell Problem. Since Hajimari acts as the conclusion of two games that never got official western releases, they try to release those two games first.
At this point the damage is done, no? CS3-4 already lean on Zero/Ao hard, even if they are not the "direct sequel" like Hajimari is. It's a bit strange to leave your most dedicated fanbase hanging for another two years. There are people on /r/falcom (me included) who hoped that 2023 will be the year of Kuro. At this rate we'll get it in 2025 :P
Well, we're not solving the 2+ year gap for localization gap problem any time soon, but at least the Crossbell issue will be solved, that's a plus. As long as the games keep coming I've made my peace with the wait.
there's not really a better chance for the crossbell games to officially come over either anymore. ideally it would have happened on the vita concurrently with cold steel, or at least before cold steel iv started bringing people in that you're really supposed to know. with hajimari wrapping everything up, it's probably the best case for both crossbell and hajimari that it happens this way.
Kuro releasing in 2024 in the west is a mistake. It doesn't personally affect me that much but I really think releasing an already niche game on a 3 year old console is a mistake. And then there's gonna be a Kuro 2 that requires people to have played Kuro a year later…
I honestly think they should have just ate the sunk cost on not translating Crossbell (unless they really did buy Geofront, in which case I don't think it should have factored into the mainline release timeline). Reverie is probably the last game where those characters and plot elements are going to be super important (and they already released 2 in the popular Cold Steel arc without even a short English video explaining Crossbell).
I'm totally sympathetic to avoiding crunch and realistic timelines for the English translation team, but I also believe there are Falcon management level decisions that would allow for smaller gaps between releases. For example, I'm pretty sure that English translation work only begins pretty late in the development cycle (it's definitely after the JP script has gone gold), well after the Chinese translation that is often able to come out much closer to release. For some reason it just doesn't seem like management is that interested in sensibly releasing these games in the west, despite the fact that all things considered it's built up a niche but dedicated fanbase.
I honestly think they should have just ate the sunk cost on not translating Crossbell (unless they really did buy Geofront, in which case I don't think it should have factored into the mainline release timeline). Reverie is probably the last game where those characters and plot elements are going to be super important (and they already released 2 in the popular Cold Steel arc without even a short English video explaining Crossbell).
I'm totally sympathetic to avoiding crunch and realistic timelines for the English translation team, but I also believe there are Falcon management level decisions that would allow for smaller gaps between releases. For example, I'm pretty sure that English translation work only begins pretty late in the development cycle (it's definitely after the JP script has gone gold), well after the Chinese translation that is often able to come out much closer to release. For some reason it just doesn't seem like management is that interested in sensibly releasing these games in the west, despite the fact that all things considered it's built up a niche but dedicated fanbase.
Have to agree, this thread reads pretty gross. Like I get the wait sucks but you'd think there'd be at least some acknowledgement of the work Nisa's putting in here.
Cold Steel 1-2 launched on PS3 well into the life on the PS4. Kuro launching well into the life on the PS5 isn't an issue. Also we already have confirmation that Liberal, Crossbell, and Erebonia characters are in Kuro, odds are people are going to want/need to know who they are by the end of Kuro.
It's still the same in the end, yar? Even if they released Reverie first, Kuro would still need to wait for Zero and Azure anyway. The more they wait on releasing those two, the worse their position would be.
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Falcom is primarily(almost exclusively) concerned with getting their one Japanese release out a year, and only on the one console(though I suspect they'll do PS4/PS5 next year). Everything else, whether it is English language releases or PC/Switch releases are secondary, and pushed onto to the companies that license their games.
That's not the point. Falcom has a history of not caring when it comes to the western market, not allowing any potential localization effort to even be considered until well after their games release. Meanwhile all the other Asian markets get simul-releases in multiple languages together with the Japanese market because they're allowed to be involved in the dev process from the beginning.
If Zero and Azure are Epic exclusives in the west, it would be the first time it happens to a game already available on Steam in other regions, no? Feels weird imo.
Trails tends to release first on Sony consoles so Hajimari could release in 2022 for PS4 and 2023 for pc.
Trails tends to release first on Sony consoles so Hajimari could release in 2022 for PS4 and 2023 for pc.
Only because their publishing partner is Sony, who also owns the platform.
This doesn't make any sense. They don't publish in Korea/China/Taiwan/HK. Still makes no sense what you're asserting either
Yeah, I guess that's true.
That's not the case any more, the people that were at Sony left and formed Clouded Leopard Entertainment who are Falcom's new partner in Asia. They were also very proactive in getting PC and Switch ports of all the games produced.
Yeah I looked it up right after I posted that because I thought I might be wrong lol
Crossposting from the community thread
Has anyone from the geofront team commented on this leak? I would assume they're probably gonna yeet their translation from the internet sometime today.
Has anyone from the geofront team commented on this leak? I would assume they're probably gonna yeet their translation from the internet sometime today.
This is all good news, assuming everything comes to Steam eventually. I want to be able to see all my Trails in one place.
2023 for Hajimari is rough, but I'm just glad it's confirmed.
2023 for Hajimari is rough, but I'm just glad it's confirmed.
There are strong hints they are involved in the localization somehow.
Agreed, my post was to say that the biggest issue with getting these games over in a timely manner is not having the translators work more hours (I would rather get the games in 2025 if the alternative was the type of crunch the Sky translators went through) but simply that Falcom doesn't prioritize it or invest in it - which is something I'm very comfortable expressing frustration about.
This is supposedly not the case, and it's a simultaneous release.
I wish we could get these games going forward day and date with Japan as well. I still think in a decade when we look back this tactical strike to plug the Crossbell gap is going to pay dividends more then cutting bait and trying to get closer to the Japanese releases.
Pretty sure they are available on China, atleast the evo version or something.
It's very cool that we're finally getting official localisations off the Crossbell titles - there was no elegant way to resolve "the crossbell problem", but I think this might be the best we can manage. Nayuta getting brought over is a nice surprise too. The dates are a little jarring, sure. but after reading the kind of hell that occurred during the Sky SC localisation, I'm not too upset at them taking their time. It's a bit sad for the series, considering it has gained some real momentum over the past couple of years, but I'm sure it'll survive - Falcom fans are nothing if not dedicated.
My main concern after all of this is the Geofront guys - what's gonna happen regarding their fan translation? They put a lot of heart into it, so it'd be a shame to see it wiped from the internet. Nobody involved seems to have said anything yet, but part of me is hoping NISA did the smart thing and came to some kind of deal with them - they were clever enough to get some of the old XSEED folks to help on CS3, after all.
My main concern after all of this is the Geofront guys - what's gonna happen regarding their fan translation? They put a lot of heart into it, so it'd be a shame to see it wiped from the internet. Nobody involved seems to have said anything yet, but part of me is hoping NISA did the smart thing and came to some kind of deal with them - they were clever enough to get some of the old XSEED folks to help on CS3, after all.
Yeah that's fair. I'm personally less convinced on the Crossbell thing - I feel like the time to localize them was in between Cold Steel 2 and 3 at the latest. The sense I've gotten from interviews and prerelease material is that with Kuro we're moving onto a new "phase" of Trails and that the Crossbell and Cold Steel characters will play a similar role to the Sky characters in Crossbell and Cold Steel where they're significant but you will still be able to follow the mainline plot without being familiar with them.
It wouldn't be the first time a fan translation for a Falcom game was bought in order to speed up localization I'm all for it
they got to release both of thwir projects and of Zero/Azure really isn't coming until '23 the presence of the fantranslation will still have a purpose for a while, though anybody interested should probably head to Geofront immediately.