OK, that's not so bad. Basically implies dual analog. I am kinda wondering why we haven't seen gameplay yet. I think this is getting delayed. And yes I know gameplay is coming in March.
EDGE Magazine Cover Story: Shenmue III (New Details On Story, Characters, Combat, Locations, Etc.)
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I never thought Dobuita was considered a city. He also literally lives in a traditional Dojo.
I was worried by this,
But then I saw this.
I actually liked the training part even if repetitive, I hope the mini-games are not too "gamey".
Surprised to see capsule toys in the chinese country, but I ain't complaining.
Sounds like a good enough compromise to me. Still just happy this game exists in the first place.
Speak for yourself, I am excited as hell.
NPCs with true schedules have been missing since Majora's Mask, and being able to lose yourself in the details of the world (like grabbing stuff and turning your hand to see it from various angles) is almost never heard of nowdays.
If you think like that, the game is not for you.
Dual analogue is basically confirmed. There's been images of people playing the game with both thumbs on the sticks for a while now, not least Yu Suzuki himself in December:
Shenmue is sort of like an immersive sim or the new Hitman levels where it's more like a very detailed and interactive neighbourhood than an open world, which is still fairly unique in 2019 honestly.
I mean sure, but he still has a Sega Saturn, rides the bus, and goes to the minimart. It's not a rural farm village.
I mean sure, but he still has a Sega Saturn, rides the bus, and goes to the minimart. It's not a rural farm village.
i am beyond happy that they retained almost the same control scheme i just hope that the camera wont rotate in 360 degree.Dual analogue is basically confirmed. There's been images of people playing the game with both thumbs on the sticks for a while now, not least Yu Suzuki himself in December:
EDGE is a good start, but we have to get Shenmue III on the cover of TV Guide.
Do they still make TV Guide?
At first I thought Shenmue III being 100 GB was just a placeholder. Now I don't know. That could be for real lol. Can't wait to play this game!
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EDGE is a good start, but we have to get Shenmue III on the cover of TV Guide.
Do they still make TV Guide?
Its not just kid stuff!
I assume when he brings up modern open worlds he means shit like Ubisoft who have incredibly huge worlds now with little substance to them and a lack of memorable landmarks. Playing the yakuza games has made me appreciate tighter more content rich areas.
It's a fair point that we should probably prepare for a critical languishing from critics but honestly this Edge interview sounds like everything I wanted from the game. I stand by what I've said before, the best games this generation are the ones that feel like they're from last-gen.
Dobuita is part of Yokosuka, which is a city in central Japan. Remember that you have to walk out to the main street to take the bus and there are loads of buildings? Also, dojos can and do exist in cities.
I also don't get your surprise at seeing capsule toys in Chinese country. They aren't Amish, far as we know :P
This is the line which hypes me up the most. Honestly I am so fed up of all modern open world games so I am glad Shenmue won't take the same route.
I'm not sure it is a fair point - if the point being made is that Ys Net are somehow sticking too closely to the original games.
It's absolutely not supported by the content of the article detailing some pretty fundamental changes to how investigation and combat work, and the fairly integral sounding training system is basically new from top to bottom. It's a weak argument from that poster. I have no idea what critics may or may not like about Shenmue III when it releases, but pretending like Ys Net aren't putting in the work to renovate the game design is bullshit.
EDIT: And because I know it'll get thrown back at me, "making it feel like Shenmue" doesn't mean slapping new graphics on old ideas and calling it a day. It is absolutely antithetical to how Yu Suzuki has approached making this game, constantly talking about the new ideas he wants to bring to the table for the series. Even in December he said the split between old and new had leveled off at about 50% each.
Well, I didn't mean to imply that I agreed with their post. My wording was unclear, sorry. What I'm saying is that game critics are usually unkind to games that play like their decade+ old counterparts. Crackdown and KH both caught heat for it by some game critics but honestly, the updates they made to their respective games were really fun and well done (well, I can vouch for CD, I'll assume KH) and I think people are underselling how fun the systems in older games are. I just hope fans don't get in a tizzy when Gamespot or whoever slaps it with a 6.5.
No, I know. It's okay.
It's just I've read some posts (and I'm glad they're in the minority in this thread), and I just have to wonder if they read the article itself or know the original games intimately enough to make statements like that. I've played these games basically for 20 years, consumed every piece of information about this game voraciously for almost four years, and spent literally hours reading and re-reading the source article to write a spoiler-free summary; so I think I'm reasonably justified to call bullshit when I see downplaying of how different Ys Net are willing to make Shenmue III from predecessors.
Reviews will be what they'll be. Shenmue I & II got generally favourable reviews according to Metacritic, and those are pretty much the same games that came out in 1999 and 2001 respectively. I don't expect universal praise for Shenmue III, but at the same time I don't think the evidence is there to have a great gnawing fear about its reception.
Old asset. Like 2017 old. None of the screens in the magazine are recent either, the latest we can trace the build is from July 2018.
These are the new screens:
There's a big difference between games feeling a decade late and games with an expected mold but building upon and improving that mold. Crackdown is the former, Prey is a good example of the latter (System Shock but modernized), as are several popular modern CRPGs (Baldurs Gate but current) and games like Shadow Tactics (Commandos but modernized and a tad more accessible). Shenmue 3 sounds like the latter.
"Controls are carried over from Shenmue II" is the last thing I wanted to read. Those controls needed more than just analog camera improvements. Ryo better move like a game from 2019 rather than from a pre-dual analog era or else because in the DC games, even in the HD Remaster, Ryo controled with the grace of a garbage truck.
Dual analogue controls have been basically confirmed for ages at this point. Quote probably refers more to the face button and trigger configs.
I hope that was something lost in translation because it sounded like the only improvement was done to the camera with the right stick.
Dual analogue controls have been basically confirmed for ages at this point. Quote probably refers more to the face button and trigger configs.
A Sega Saturn in 1986 btw.
Has that been addressed by Suzuki or anyone from the team? I got on the Shenmue train very late, until after the HD Remaster, so I wasn't following before a few months back.
Ryo should've had a Sega Master System rather than a Saturn.
I think it was just an Easter egg rather than trying to be historically accurate.
Suzuki's team had some experience working on the Saturn and some of his games were ported to it. I don't think he did much on the Mark III so that may have led to its omission as well.
Suzuki's team had some experience working on the Saturn and some of his games were ported to it. I don't think he did much on the Mark III so that may have led to its omission as well.
Trust me on this. It's not the only time we've seen people playing with dual sticks either.
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Ryo's Saturn is a nod to Shenmue starting development on that console, FYI.
Trust me on this. It's not the only time we've seen people playing with dual sticks either.
That's mostly how I played Shenmue 1 and 2 on my PS4 two months ago. I'll trust you but these pictures don't tell me much since the HD Remaster (the first and only times I played these games) already had the camera on the right stick and Ryo still controller worse than a school bus trying to make a left turn.
Tears of joy...tears of joy...
It sounds wonderful! The fact that Shenmue III is actually the cover story from a big magazine like EDGE is just...my brain can hardly process it. We've come so far. **wipes away tear**
It sounds wonderful! The fact that Shenmue III is actually the cover story from a big magazine like EDGE is just...my brain can hardly process it. We've come so far. **wipes away tear**
It's an easter egg. Shenmue started development on the Saturn.
It sounds like music to my ears as a fan of the originals. You love the originals too?
That Kickstarter exclusive version better have the correct logo on it.
Let the Millienials who can't read cursive keep their lesser, tragic font.
Chances are you are a millennial. You mean Gen Z babies.
Goes without saying one was made with the scheme in mind, and the other was not.
You'll see eventually. I'm not basing it entirely on these photos, but it's the thing I can point to publicly.
I haven't been online as much as I would like to, but I want to say how fucking excited I am for this game.
It's going to be joy.
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The decision to change it, despite overwhelming support on the original font is the only thing I hold against this game
It's going to be joy.
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Also, yeah.That Kickstarter exclusive version better have the correct logo on it.
Let the Millienials who can't read cursive keep their lesser, tragic font.
The decision to change it, despite overwhelming support on the original font is the only thing I hold against this game
everything about Shenmue games was designed to be an immersive experience through and through.... this is a VR game without the headset!
and i strongly believe the control scheme plays an important role to make the player feel more immersed.
like when i am trying to look into something i go to the first person view to focus on certain object to examine it and this how the eyes work and when i try to look around i am actually controlling the protagonist head not some "flying drone" and this is how a human being can explore the surroundings and the camera is always behind Ryo all the time feels more natural to move his body.... all of this make the player feel like he is transported into Ryo's physical body which maximizes overall feel of being immersed into the game.
of course the controls can benefits from a much more fluidity and analog movements but the very basis of the controls are well thought and it did serve the game's vision greatly.
You could already rotate the camera 360 degrees in the original two games by holding down the B button and moving the D-pad left or right.
yeah but you rarely use this method and when you actually use it you would just want to adjust Ryo's direction a tiny bit specially in narrow places and you can't use it while exploring only when stand still.
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I guess he couldn't hold it?If anybody is wondering what "Horse Stance" is btw:
Maybe without the teacups, but we'll see. We already know a pretty eccentric martial arts master is in the game, so I'm looking forward to some wackier training methods.
It felt more like a suburb, tho. Most people knew each other, and there weren't big buildings and large stores.
That is more similar to a small town than a city.
He lives in a traditional japanese wooden house from the middle ages, basically. Not really "city-like"
Chinese rural villages in the 80s with capsule toys? I'm not particularly keen in chinese history but I find that hard to believe.
They were trying to remove western influence and liberal ideas in that period after all.