I agree. So while consciously people may choose "price" as the biggest factor marketing is the actual answer.
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Ed Boon Poll Suggests That PS5 and Xbox Series X Pricing is the Most Important Factor for Many
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Mindshare is a thing you know. Due to price and marketing the PS4 became the de facto third party box in the west for the games media and people in general, much like the 360 last gen. Even when the prices were the same, "my friends all have a PS4, so I'm going to stay with them".
the console "war" was over after the initial launch sales in November and December dried up and people chose the cheaper option
That's why GamePass will be a deciding factor, you get so many games for a very low cost. Makes it easier to buy a new console.
Is really do think that having halo infinite and whatever first party Xbox launch games just there for you With the sub at launch will be a big deal
Game Pass also hurts Microsoft. In order to not fragment their subscription base, they have to make sure all of their upcoming games run on a vanilla Xbox One.
Meanwhile Sony can go all out with better looking games because PS5 isn't anchored to PS4.
I am just genuinely shocked about the general public not caring about exclusives...I mean I know it adds up when you see sales numbers for exclusives compared to the big triple AAA multi plats ...but I'm still a little surprised.
If exclusives didn't matter Nintendo would be in trouble...
Sony's biggest exclusives games sell more than all but the biggest multiplats. If you limited many of those multiplats to one platform they would sell less than the exclusives.
Sony's biggest exclusives games sell more than all but the biggest multiplats. If you limited many of those multiplats to one platform they would sell less than the exclusives.
It always helps to remember that core gamer communities like Era do not represent the mainstream market. The biggest games in the world (like League of Legends or Fortnite) are almost irrelevant here.
You'd need a poll sample size of about 13 -15 million to be representative.
I'm not sure we can pull many conclusions from a 50K sample.
I'm not sure we can pull many conclusions from a 50K sample.
We are talking about customers and they care for the best value and price, which clearly goes to Microsoft.
Funny that i voted for Exclusives and care about the price the least lmao
Then again the majority who are following Ed Boon are Mileena stans so what do they know.
Then again the majority who are following Ed Boon are Mileena stans so what do they know.
This would be relevant:
From: https://www.resetera.com/threads/study-claims-playstation-have-most-brand-loyal-fans.166522/
From: https://www.resetera.com/threads/study-claims-playstation-have-most-brand-loyal-fans.166522/
I would have voted Games. But I'm in my thirties, working full time and gaming is one of my favorite hobbies. So, price is not a concern.
But in my opinion, the lead up to launch, marketing campaign and brand awareness are even more important, than anything on that list.
But in my opinion, the lead up to launch, marketing campaign and brand awareness are even more important, than anything on that list.
A lot of the 100 million bought Horizon or God of War or Spider-Man after they bought the system for CoD, FIFA or Fortnite (and more importantly after a price drop compared to launch).
Price is without a doubt the most important factor for 80% of customers when deciding between two similar platforms when it comes to them being very close in hardware specs, services and exclusive content.
What the hell am I reading lol. Please look up how a representative sample size is calculated.
You are right that this sample may not be representative, but it's absolutely not because of its size. The selection bias inherent to polling folks who follow Ed Boon on Twitter will skew this sample towards the "hardcore" relative to the actual population.
But in terms of sample size, even a fraction of this sample would be enough to be representative of a 250 million buyer market.
Yeah I'm not sure if that person knows how polling works. You absolutely don't need millions of results. You do need a wide arching bet and his followers may not be wise enough
Enthusiast forums are definitely going to lean more toward factors like exclusives and maybe even compute capabilities. In my experience at retail selling games, it feels like most of the audience these days generally don't think about games on an enthusiast level — they like games and they invest time and money into them, but it's not something they see as a community or a passion — it's just a thing they do to have fun every once in a while.
Most consumers don't think about it that hard. They just want a current machine that runs current games, and generally aren't keen on things like performance metrics and the prestige of exclusives. Yes, there is some overlap in appreciation for those exclusives when they come along and they're great — they are a segment of that audience — but to them it's generally "that's a great game," and not "thank you Sony/Sony partner studio for getting projects like this off the ground and into my hands." If the big breakout enthusiast-loved game isn't on their platform, they probably aren't thinking about it with regret about their console of choice — the people who get upset about exclusives they can't play are usually some form of enthusiast and not part of the huge segment of console owners that don't really care to have a voice in enthusiast circles. It's just entertainment for them and not a passion, and that's fine. They might be willing to pick their console based on which friends they can play with, but most people just aim for the cheapest of the bunch, or the cheapest one that lets them play with their friends.
Most consumers don't think about it that hard. They just want a current machine that runs current games, and generally aren't keen on things like performance metrics and the prestige of exclusives. Yes, there is some overlap in appreciation for those exclusives when they come along and they're great — they are a segment of that audience — but to them it's generally "that's a great game," and not "thank you Sony/Sony partner studio for getting projects like this off the ground and into my hands." If the big breakout enthusiast-loved game isn't on their platform, they probably aren't thinking about it with regret about their console of choice — the people who get upset about exclusives they can't play are usually some form of enthusiast and not part of the huge segment of console owners that don't really care to have a voice in enthusiast circles. It's just entertainment for them and not a passion, and that's fine. They might be willing to pick their console based on which friends they can play with, but most people just aim for the cheapest of the bunch, or the cheapest one that lets them play with their friends.
It is even more narrow.
This poll is indicative on Ed Boon Fans and Mortal Kombat Fans.
A poll which has mostly Call of Duty fans participating and a poll which has mostly Gravity Rush Fans would have different results.
Poll results really aren't that surprising. The average gamer (not your one you'll find on an enthusiast forum) is probably most interested in playing GTA 6 on the cheapest next-gen system, grabbing the next FIFA game, playing COD with their friends (who likely all bought the cheapest console), and having access to the ecosystem they committed to in the previous gen.
Casuals play casual games which are vastly 3rd party and also make up the majority of the purchasers over time. Price matters most to those people since they can play the games they want on either console. Exclusives matter most to hard core games but ones like me, buy all consoles anyway and we are in the vast minority.
Backwards compatible doesn't always mean 20 year old games. Minecraft gta, Fortnite are all older games that are going to be played well into next gen. Why would people want to buy GTA for a third time vs it being BC
Mileena got jobbed out memorably in a game that featured Jobal Khan.
It's true.
I bought a ps4 after thinking and saving.
I bought a Switch on a whim.
It's true that I was a student at the time of the ps4 launch, but I would seriously think about a €500+ purchase as opposed to something around €350 (hopefully).
I bought a ps4 after thinking and saving.
I bought a Switch on a whim.
It's true that I was a student at the time of the ps4 launch, but I would seriously think about a €500+ purchase as opposed to something around €350 (hopefully).
To be fair the poll is useless when your wording is vague. I mean what does "affordable" mean? Sure it shows that price is very important but doesn't provide any valuable info other than that.
Let me put it this way: You're a dad shopping for christmas gifts at Walmart. You see a two 500 dollar consoles, three 300 dollar consoles, and one 200 dollar console. I'm willing to bet which ones you're not going to want to get.
Lol, I just thought about it, that's exactly what this poll is saying
I dont disagree with that part. I also stand by that being a niche and not really a major concern for the larger majority. Take the CoD audience. They will buy the new one on the new system because it will undoubtedly launch on it.
GTAV, trust me if it wasnt literally a gen old they'd sell it again and people would buy it again. Fortnite is a f2p service game so youd not need to buy anything again anyway.
I'm not saying BC doesn't have value. But 30% of the core audience isnt a realistic number if you remove the question from the niche audience
It's interesting because this is the first gen where I'm not going to be buying an Xbox since the original released in 2001. As Xbox is doing its main titles/exclusives on Xbox and PC now, I don't have much need to have an Xbox anymore - I have a powerful gaming PC. So next gen for me will be PS5 and Switch. No Xbox, which kind of sucks because I've loved the Xbox ecosystem but I don't see the need anymore. With that in mind, the PS5 can probably be any (within reason) price and I'll buy it because I love their exclusives so much - for me it really is the exclusives.
Siege, Fortnite, PUBG, GTAO are "old games" and they are more important than any new exclusive
Not surprised at all to see exclusives last. The casual audience doesn't buy consoles for games like Halo, Horizon, God of War, Gears, etc. They buy it for games like Call of Duty, FIFA, Madden, NBA 2K, etc. Basically 3rd party. It's the hardcore audience that drives the exclusives. Price being the biggest factor makes sense since people can play those games on either console and there's no reason to fork out more money than needed.
This is an enthusiast forum so of course you won't. I'm sure you already knew that as well.
This is an enthusiast forum so of course you won't. I'm sure you already knew that as well.
People think the ps4 won because of its exclusives but it won because you paid $100 less for more powerful hardware.
Exclusives are 2 things fanboy list fodder for console warriors and for people who actually play games instead of lists they're cherries on top.
Exclusives are excellent but GTA 6 early timed dlc would help sell more consoles then any single exclusive. People play 3rd party overwhelmingly more.
Exclusives are 2 things fanboy list fodder for console warriors and for people who actually play games instead of lists they're cherries on top.
Exclusives are excellent but GTA 6 early timed dlc would help sell more consoles then any single exclusive. People play 3rd party overwhelmingly more.
