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they added a sound dampener to the face buttons so looks like noise canceling mic isn't doing all the work. Would also explain why some people are saying the buttons are a tad mushier because their rebound doesn't hit the plastic. Softer contact pads too.
Not sure I'm happy with changes to the buttons just to serve a feature like built in mic that I don't care about at all. I'd have to try the buttons for myself to form an opinion though.
Boy was that interesting to watch. Those simple improvements over the DS4 and other controllers. Especially that simple adjustment to improve longevity of the Left and Right Stick. Taking into consideration how often they are used for sprinting forward.
This was fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Adaptive triggers are working exactly like we thought they would based on the patents. Interesting that it's all plastic, though. Hope they don't wear too much over time.
Those voice-coil actuators are huuuuge!
Comparison with Switch Pro Controller's linear resonant actuators:
Switch:
Dualsense:
There's no wonder it has such much more intensity and depth.
Really curious if they've improved the headphone amp in the controller since they've been making such a big deal about audio this gen
This was fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Adaptive triggers are working exactly like we thought they would based on the patents. Interesting that it's all plastic, though. Hope they don't wear too much over time.
Those voice-coil actuators are huuuuge!
Comparison with Switch Pro Controller's linear resonant actuators:
Switch:
Dualsense:
There's no wonder it has such much more intensity and depth.
Yea, I can't say I'm surprised Joy-con haptics pale in comparison to the DualSense's lol. Just look at the motor, size, placement and footprint differences.
Can't even come close to comparing. And don't get me wrong: HD Rumble IS cool. It's a cool technology and can provide some really accurate feedback. Unfortunately, they're far too small to provide the depth, intensity, or directionality that it's looking like the Dualsense can offer with those massive VCAs.Yea, I can't say I'm surprised Joy-con haptics pale in comparison to the DualSense's lol. Just look at the motor, size, placement and footprint differences.
Another comparsion, with the Switch Pro Controller, to get a sense of its placement in a controller more the size and shape of the Dualsense:
I love the Dual sense charging dock.. nice magnetic click when you rest the controller in cradle.
The plastic does worry me with it wearing out, maybe sooner than later due to the constant usage of them and how games will use them.The trigger mechanism is pretty interesting. They did a great job keep it compact. Can't wait to play with it.
I looked up the company that manufactured that, it's a Japanese company, this looks like a custom design it's crazy how large they are.This was fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Adaptive triggers are working exactly like we thought they would based on the patents. Interesting that it's all plastic, though. Hope they don't wear too much over time.
Those voice-coil actuators are huuuuge!
Comparison with Switch Pro Controller's linear resonant actuators:
Switch:
Dualsense:
There's no wonder it has such much more intensity and depth.
I don't thing the plastic will wear out based on it just being a gear and a corkscrew. There is nothing speed related that would cause enough friction over time imo.
Thank you very much, I really hope this thing is easy to disassemble for repairs and battery replacement. Anything but something like Stadia's controller at the least.
Wow it looks nice to disassemble. I never seen a controller made like that, it looks fun, also Dualsense faceplate.
I think I will be disconnecting the microphone from my controllers (mainly for PC and I don't want extra microphones connected to windows).
Silent buttons, that's so nice.
The engeneering on this controller is nuts, so intricate.
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I'm honestly really hyped for this controller since it was first presented, but after ther few previews in the past couple days I think it's the coolest thing I want to experience. Really the most next gen thing close to Demon's Souls.
Idk if it's been answered yet, but does the controller work at all on a PS4. If not I don't mind trying it out on the PC.
It doesn't work on a PS4. I tried it. Hopefully a FW update will get it to work
I don't have a PC but it worked on my Mac and Android phone. Funny enough using remote play app on the Mac to PS4 it worked. But not from Android Remote Play
It also work wired to PS3
I haven't seen a unboxing by linus yet... missing out on a few million views I bet... Punishment for ripping a dualsense apart before embargo ?
Did Linus do that? I know Austin Evans did, but I wasn't aware of Linus.
Lol it worked on a ps3 holy crap, yeah I'm guessing probably just a firmware update will fix it. Thanks for the response!
I managed to get this thing to work on my PC through the 8bitdo adapter after updating the adapter's firmware.
Seems to work fine as a controller on Steam, but I am having a weird, very specific issue. I have Aokana on Steam and I like to play it with a controller, using the joysticks to control the mouse. For some reason, the game launches with the mouse constantly gliding at an upwards angle to the left. My joysticks themselves don't seem to have a calibration issue, it's ONLY if I launch with mouse control bound to either joystick. If I launch without special configurations, then bind the mouse control the joystick, everything is fine.
I tested this with a couple other games and it seems to be the same. What could this be?
Seems to work fine as a controller on Steam, but I am having a weird, very specific issue. I have Aokana on Steam and I like to play it with a controller, using the joysticks to control the mouse. For some reason, the game launches with the mouse constantly gliding at an upwards angle to the left. My joysticks themselves don't seem to have a calibration issue, it's ONLY if I launch with mouse control bound to either joystick. If I launch without special configurations, then bind the mouse control the joystick, everything is fine.
I tested this with a couple other games and it seems to be the same. What could this be?
This was very informative, and I don't even work on controllers. Hopefully the sprint issues will be solved now!
This was very informative, and I don't work on controllers. Hopefully the sprint issues will be solved now!
This was very informative, and I don't work on controllers. Hopefully the sprint issues will be solved now!
The black trim once removed looks like an owl. Cool that it seems to be easily removed and therefore you could customise or buy different ones.
I shared my thoughts on this a couple of pages ago and I can tell a difference with my Dualsense, it seems noticeably better to my ears.
Great video,
The sound damper on the buttons are a nice touch as well
So now that we know we can test the haptics on windows via RL and RR audio channels, anyone got any good audio to test? I found this video to be a good one:
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Definitely feels like wood tapping. Even captures the stereo nature of the footage. Good shit.
Edit: There's a section where he is dragging wooden cubes across the surface and I can legit feel the woodgrain differences as vibration as he passes over it. It's awesome.
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Definitely feels like wood tapping. Even captures the stereo nature of the footage. Good shit.
Edit: There's a section where he is dragging wooden cubes across the surface and I can legit feel the woodgrain differences as vibration as he passes over it. It's awesome.
Haptic Feedback on PC! (unofficial)
Ah Yeah good point. Let's hope the PS5 has good noise cancellation software.
Thar's pretty great! Might generate more impressions for the rest of us while we wait...
That's my hope. Obviously anything we try is not audio designed for haptics in the way that game devs will be doing things. But I am honestly, truly impressed with the wood block video I used to demo it myself. I could feel the same woodgrain that I was seeing the block rub against. And then music is also fun in it, though not the same experience lol. A Moment Apart by ODESZA is a bassy, but not overly so song. But the DualSense THUMPS to it, even compared to songs that are definitely more bass oriented. It definitely seems to be playing a set range frequencies. I hope other DualSense owners check it out and post here as well.
Linus also seems to be PC stuff than console stuff...
also, don't go to linus if you want to buy Nvidia stuff....that man (and channel) seems to have a hate-boner on nvidia for some reason.
wonder will Horizon Zero Dawn on ps4 bc make us of the dualsense trigger.....i want try that 'resistive bow' thing that they gave alot of their examples of how it works.
This is pretty big, if it works across any PS4 game. Maybe one of the 'surprises' DF referred to?
Sony is offering tools to devs that use a neural network to convert sound effects to an appropriate haptic response, but maybe it can also be used at runtime against the game's audio output? The VCAs can take any audio signal it seems, but maybe Sony's neural net/conversion does a better job vs a raw signal. Obviously this may not work as nicely as a well-authored haptic response, but if it works well, it could be a great enhancement for BC based on impressions of the controller.
But, I'm jumping a little ahead...I'm guessing we'll get more details on this when the embargos are up.
I don't understand how haptics work, if the motors are only in those 2 spots how can they make feel like something is rolling inside through out the whole controller for example and not just in those 2 spots?Can't even come close to comparing. And don't get me wrong: HD Rumble IS cool. It's a cool technology and can provide some really accurate feedback. Unfortunately, they're far too small to provide the depth, intensity, or directionality that it's looking like the Dualsense can offer with those massive VCAs.
Another comparsion, with the Switch Pro Controller, to get a sense of its placement in a controller more the size and shape of the Dualsense:
I do as well...Thanks for making me obsess about it for the rest of the day!
Yep should have been metal, hopefully they did 1,000s of hrs of testing though
Well they're located where most of your hand is resting/gripping when you're holding the controller.
Do you think the dualsense is working on ps3 due that the controller is having a kind of dualshock 3 emulator layer inside for old ps3 remaster like demons souls ?
This is legit amazing! Even better than the controller coming out earlier.
Yesss I love teardowns.
Great video too, very informative.
Good to know it's easy to disassemble, unlike the way Austin attempted it. Of course it would be easy, this is a proper video game company; they wouldn't make a controller that can't be disassembled like Google did.
Nevermind, I thought it was inside Destiny but it's just the wallpaper.
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