Dear god please get back in here once you do. I'll level - I can understand the passionate crowd who would think that it defiles the legacy of the series. When it begins to twist, you worry. But maybe it was starring at the protaganist, his "plight", that spoke to me. Boy oh boy did it swing close to home.
I'll forever defend this movie. If it means being the lone voice in a sea of hate - so be it.
Question: Am I spoiling myself of the DQV story if I watch this? Ive been hunting that game for over a year and I wouldnt want to spoil myself of the story, since ive read mentioned pretty much everywhere about how the story of V is one of the best
Thanks for the reply!Ended up waiting for the weekend because my girlfriend wanted to watch it too, and yeah we really loved it. I honestly really liked the twist too. The breakneck pacing was a much bigger issue to me, as well asbut I understand why they did it that way. Between this and Sonic, this was a pretty great weekend for video game movies, lol.there not being a daughter
Yes, it goes through pretty much every major plot beat from the game. I would def recommend waiting until you play the game to watch, for a couple of reasons.
Is this on US Netflix? My friend tried searching for and said he couldn't find it.
Yeah people are saying how the movie would be SOOO much better if it was just straight adapted but I really think it wouldn't have been much of an improvement to how much they had to speed through it. For better or worse the twist really makes it stand out.It's kind of ok as a movie, but the ending really elevated it above mediocre. Nice movie, great to see if you don't expect much from it.
Best review yet. Thanks! I feel similar going in and now am excited 😊.Never played Dragon Quest V, but I've played plenty of the others, and went in with trepidation after the negative reaction it had received. I decided to watch it anyway just for the series references.
While not a movie to acclaim from an analytical perspective...I loved it! Especially the ending, which I was near rolling in my seat, laughing with it. The film engaged me the whole way through, I never got bored, and I had a lot of amusement along the way. I've spent worse hours on Netflix, so with that minimal cost of entry, I can't say I regret the time.
Yeah people are saying how the movie would be SOOO much better if it was just straight adapted but I really think it wouldn't have been much of an improvement to how much they had to speed through it. For better or worse the twist really makes it stand out.
So speaking of the twist, I figured someone's going to ask sooner or later. It's cheeky but I'm genuinely curious...
Do you suppose Luca got to experience having sex with Bianca or does the software just sort of implant the suggestion that he got her pregnant? I mean we already know the software manipulated the sense of time to make two hours stretch out into years. I mean yeah VR Sex and all, but it's kinda freaky to imagine how that works. Maybe in a week or so I'll make a thread about what games one could get the same treatment.
Yeah people are saying how the movie would be SOOO much better if it was just straight adapted but I really think it wouldn't have been much of an improvement to how much they had to speed through it. For better or worse the twist really makes it stand out.
So speaking of the twist, I figured someone's going to ask sooner or later. It's cheeky but I'm genuinely curious...
Do you suppose Luca got to experience having sex with Bianca or does the software just sort of implant the suggestion that he got her pregnant? I mean we already know the software manipulated the sense of time to make two hours stretch out into years. I mean yeah VR Sex and all, but it's kinda freaky to imagine how that works. Maybe in a week or so I'll make a thread about what games one could get the same treatment.
Haha I just took it as its a full VR experience. Which is why when he realizes its a VR game again from the virus it takes him a minute to realize that he is playing a VR. Not just in the pervy "huh huh sex" stuff but its much cooler to imagine that the VR is so good, that you can live a whole other life in it, so much so that someone intruding on it your first reaction is "what the hell, no this is my reality?" before you come back to the truth of things
One thing I was just thinking of now, and that as I was watching stood out like a sore thumb and so in and of it self is SO modern dragon quest.
Is how the music is just kind of slapped in there. On one level for nostalgia sake and seeing the songs cinematically it makes sense, but on every other level it was quiet jarring how it's just thrown in there, not remixed, not changed up to fit the scene just the literal songs.
Reminds me of playing Dragon Quest 11 where its like "here you go! some dragon quest music eat it up"
I hope one day there series uses new and original music, new arrangements etc in a thoughtful way opposed to cut and paste.
I do mind the format
I really just cannot see myself sitting down and playing a 50+ hour RPG on my phone
I've never bothered with the series since story isn't really a strongpoint from what I've read about it.
I liked the nnk movie without having played any of the gamesso I guess I'll have to see this one too.
I mean, the whole point is that even if something is fictitious, it can still leave you feeling things. Indeed, dreams can make you feel things, games can make you feel things and fiction in general can make you feel things despite you knowing that all three aren't real. It's a really straightforward message!Kinda surprising to see so many people here defending that twist. It's awful. Legit awful. Almost approaching "it was all a dream!" kind of awful, which for most intents and purposes is exactly what this is.
She's stuck in "Not around long enough for her to generate nostalgia" Land.
No see, I get that. I totally get that that was what the director attempted to go for but no, just... no. It doesn't work. Chalk it up to my jaded, cynical adult brain if you want but to me it just comes across as a lame nostalgia grab for the sake of being a lame nostalgia grab and makes all the preceding film suffer as a result. Someone more talented could've maybe made it work, but not here. Not for me, at least. It just comes off as a really stupid, really unnecessary twist in the end.I mean, the whole point is that even if something is fictitious, it can still leave you feeling things. Indeed, dreams can make you feel things, games can make you feel things and fiction in general can make you feel things despite you knowing that all three aren't real. It's a really straightforward message!
Kinda surprising to see so many people here defending that twist. It's awful. Legit awful. Almost approaching "it was all a dream!" kind of awful, which for most intents and purposes is exactly what this is. I don't know how much it affected my viewing that I already knew going in that there was gonna be a controversial twist ending but I certainly didn't expect something as unbelievably lame as what I got. Just truly, truly awful. It really did bring the whole thing down several notches for me.
Also was it just me or did Bianca look like a straight up carbon copy of the girl from How to train your dragon?
No see, I get that. I totally get that that was what the director attempted to go for but no, just... no. It doesn't work. Chalk it up to my jaded, cynical adult brain if you want but to me it just comes across as a lame nostalgia grab for the sake of being a lame nostalgia grab and makes all the preceding film suffer as a result. Someone more talented could've maybe made it work, but not here. Not for me, at least. It just comes off as a really stupid, really unnecessary twist in the end.
I mean, I suppose it would've also been genius if at the end of Avengers Endgame Tony Stark suddenly told everyone to shut up and stop what they're doing so he could break into a soliloquy aimed directly at the audience about how comic book characters are the modern day equivalent of mythological deities of yesteryear and are meant to be role models that we're meant to look up to to define our morality regardless of age, race, etc. and how the real treasure are the friends we made along the way or something. And it's also revealed that it turns out the whole time it was just some dude reading some VR comic books at his local convention.You know, when people were talking about the twist originally, I got the hint it was some kind of " It's just a game" or the guy rage quit during the final battle or something. THAT would've been genuinely awful imo.
I think you hit the nail on the head. If you're bitter and cynical of course you'll hate it but I think people outside of Japan are more sentimental so they "get" the ending and what they were trying to do.
No, no.You know, when people were talking about the twist originally, I got the hint it was some kind of " It's just a game" or the guy rage quit during the final battle or something. THAT would've been genuinely awful imo.
I think you hit the nail on the head. If you're bitter and cynical of course you'll hate it but I think people outside of Japan are more sentimental so they "get" the ending and what they were trying to do.
No, no.
Straight up, what people annoyed or disappointed by the ending wanted was a more faithful adaptation of Dragon Quest V. Not something that tries to be cute in the worst goddamn way. What they were trying to do is immaterial, because for the film's target audience (Dragon Quest V fans), it's a stupid, awful twist that wants so very much to reach for nostalgia, and instead tries to override the characters and story of the game (which is one of Dragon Quest's stronger narratives) with some dipshit playing pretend in VR.
It's like the writer played Star Ocean 3 and somehow got inspired enough by that game's awful twist to out-stupid it.
Upending the conclusion of Dragon Quest V with "lol it's a game" isn't win-win.I think this is an awful take.
I think the game's narrative is unaffected by this. Children can watch the movie and be like, that was weird and the adults in the room can remember there first time playing a DQ game and what that experience was like. It's a win win.
Even outside of Smash I can't agree with any of your opinions.
Upending the conclusion of Dragon Quest V with "lol it's a game" isn't win-win.
Nah, that'd be awful because you're basically saying ALL those movies are null and void. A 2 hour DQV adaptation doesn't even come close to comparing to that.I mean, I suppose it would've also been genius if at the end of Avengers Endgame Tony Stark suddenly told everyone to shut up and stop what they're doing so he could break into a soliloquy aimed directly at the audience about how comic book characters are the modern day equivalent of mythological deities of yesteryear and are meant to be role models that we're meant to look up to to define our morality regardless of age, race, etc. and how the real treasure are the friends we made along the way or something. And it's also revealed that it turns out the whole time it was just some dude reading some VR comic books at his local convention.
I swear I just can't wrap my mind around this whole "the movie just bitch slapped me with this meta ending so now I'm mad" train.Upending the conclusion of Dragon Quest V with "lol it's a game" isn't win-win.
People don't like having the story they were told invalidated. No big shock. It's the reason "it was all a dream" endings are hated so much.Nah, that'd be awful because you're basically saying ALL those movies are null and void. A 2 hour DQV adaptation doesn't even come close to comparing to that.
I swear I just can't wrap my mind around this whole "the movie just bitch slapped me with this meta ending so now I'm mad" train.
Naw man, I'm telling you. It'd be like, super deep and emotional and heartfelt. You just don't get it.Nah, that'd be awful because you're basically saying ALL those movies are null and void. A 2 hour DQV adaptation doesn't even come close to comparing to that.