Eh. They were already motivated as you can be. I think you can argue it also motivates Democrat-leaning voters who think their votes won't lead to anything.
Donald J. Trump has been impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives.
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Eh. They were already motivated as you can be. I think you can argue it also motivates Democrat-leaning voters who think their votes won't lead to anything.
"Improperly influence the 2020 election"
Fuuuucking hell the projection.
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his base never changed, it was alaways there.
this does more to impove dem polling than anything
His livestream right now is hurting me, he called Democrats vicious and republicans aren't and ppl believe that!
Why this is important
Being complacent and doing nothing sets a dangerous precedent going forward. By doing nothing, we're collectively saying that the President can do whatever he wants and is above the law of the land.
The Federalist Papers and Constitution lay out explicit terms and verbage, including, but not limited to "high crimes and misdemeanors". It is noted that the aforementioned applies to those who hold publicly appointed positions of power, in this case, the President.
It is beyond a reasonable doubt that Donald Trump unlawfully denied congressionally authorized foreign aid, and then used that act as a bargaining chip, in order to coerce a foreign entity into sabotaging a domestic political opponent. He then made multiple attempts to obstruct the investigation, a right, which is bestowed upon Congress by the Constitution.
Democrats are in no way trying to subvert the results of the 2016 election, despite the fact that Donald Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes. This impeachment process does not only hold the President accountable for his illegal and unscrupulous actions, but ensures the fairness and sanctity of the 2020 election.
The notion that this process is merely motivated by misguided hatred for Donald Trump is untrue. May I remind everyone, that the Republican party questioned the legitimacy of President Obama, solely on his race and origin of birth. Yet here, this is clearly an issue of right versus wrong.
Ideally, President Trump needs to be removed from office. It is abundantly clear he is unfit, unqualified and totally unequipped to be allowed to have the awesome power that is the President of the United States. The President, the American people, and the entire world must be reminded, that nobody, no matter who you are, is above the law and immune from due process and moral and legal accountability.
If nothing else, this impeachment sets a legal and historical precedent that no one is above the law. History will look back at Senate and the GOP as enablers of Donald Trump's corruption. It begs the question, "If this isn't impeachable, then what is?"
Now, I'm fairly confident, despite all of this, that President Trump will get re-elected next year. There is no way there will be a paradigm shift in people's attitudes. Once again, the silent majority and (some) of White America will exercise an absence of good judgement and empathy, by voting for Donald Trump. Our archaic Electoral College will ensure it, unfortunately. That, and the President will undoubtedly, as he has already, deem the entire impeachment process as a hoax and unjust witch hunt against him and his supporters.
But once again, this was a necessary measure to protect future generations of Americans. We simply cannot allow illegitimate and unscrupulous individuals in public office, to not only believe they can abuse their power, but have the audacity to attempt and go forward with it.
The road to redemption and progress will be long. It will get worse before it gets better. But better days will come. Be sure of it.
The Federalist Papers and Constitution lay out explicit terms and verbage, including, but not limited to "high crimes and misdemeanors". It is noted that the aforementioned applies to those who hold publicly appointed positions of power, in this case, the President.
It is beyond a reasonable doubt that Donald Trump unlawfully denied congressionally authorized foreign aid, and then used that act as a bargaining chip, in order to coerce a foreign entity into sabotaging a domestic political opponent. He then made multiple attempts to obstruct the investigation, a right, which is bestowed upon Congress by the Constitution.
Democrats are in no way trying to subvert the results of the 2016 election, despite the fact that Donald Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes. This impeachment process does not only hold the President accountable for his illegal and unscrupulous actions, but ensures the fairness and sanctity of the 2020 election.
The notion that this process is merely motivated by misguided hatred for Donald Trump is untrue. May I remind everyone, that the Republican party questioned the legitimacy of President Obama, solely on his race and origin of birth. Yet here, this is clearly an issue of right versus wrong.
Ideally, President Trump needs to be removed from office. It is abundantly clear he is unfit, unqualified and totally unequipped to be allowed to have the awesome power that is the President of the United States. The President, the American people, and the entire world must be reminded, that nobody, no matter who you are, is above the law and immune from due process and moral and legal accountability.
If nothing else, this impeachment sets a legal and historical precedent that no one is above the law. History will look back at Senate and the GOP as enablers of Donald Trump's corruption. It begs the question, "If this isn't impeachable, then what is?"
Now, I'm fairly confident, despite all of this, that President Trump will get re-elected next year. There is no way there will be a paradigm shift in people's attitudes. Once again, the silent majority and (some) of White America will exercise an absence of good judgement and empathy, by voting for Donald Trump. Our archaic Electoral College will ensure it, unfortunately. That, and the President will undoubtedly, as he has already, deem the entire impeachment process as a hoax and unjust witch hunt against him and his supporters.
But once again, this was a necessary measure to protect future generations of Americans. We simply cannot allow illegitimate and unscrupulous individuals in public office, to not only believe they can abuse their power, but have the audacity to attempt and go forward with it.
The road to redemption and progress will be long. It will get worse before it gets better. But better days will come. Be sure of it.
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Trump voters can't get more motivated, lol. If they were a trumper already, what does this do?
They might not be wrong. He'll try to play the victim and underdog card to the idiot masses.
Figured he had to retreat to his safe space with his half crazy and half paid supporters
Honestly I feel like this strengthens his base as they already feel it's a witch hunt.
There's no chance of this happening. They'd probably love to have Mike Pence as president, but their base is full of idiots who would primary them if they removed head idiot.
Full exoneration is a preview of the line we're gonna get post acquittal. It will be retroactively used as a cudgel against everything he ever did in his life.
A lot hinges on how much the few thousand people whose vote actually matters buy it.
It has flow-on effects for the Senate. They won't remove him from office but they'll have to go back to their electorate to explain why bribery and corruption and obstruction of justice is okay.
Oh eat shit
EDIT: Directed towards that WH statement, of course
Do you think his base is growing because of this? His base was always going to vote for him.
Ground shattering political insight
I'm sure this was a post made in good faith!
1, but he dropped party affiliation and is now an independent.
But it only appears purely partisan. This is the problem with that argument republicans couldn't let go. Under normal circumstances, this, the most amoral self serving sneaky slimer fucker of a president got caught doing something inexcusable, and would be tossed out immediately by both sides, but the republican party has become a hive mind of dissenters not interested in doing any government, just causing chaos and ruining it.
They're so corrupt, we shouldn't be playing ball with their false narratives and refusal to accept reality. The entire impeachment proceedings were republicans just saying 'nuh uh, you!' So utterly shameful. John Mccain died, one of the few republicans who sometimes had a glimmer of humanity about him, and rather than reflect on what made him great, they couldn't forget him quicker.
Thank you. I've been saying in all these threads that it's the essence of congress's duty to act when a President does something like this. It goes way beyond catastrophizing about people who were already going to vote for him.
Ohhhh who gives a flying fuck about his base!
Making literal concentration camps for children didn't move them one inch so there is no point in appeasing them in any way shape or form.
I'm serious. I was saying it earlier too. It's a bad look, sure, but it's like having him a loaded gun.
Should Dems have just let Trump continue to break the law?
We already know per polling that his base and the majority of Republicans will support him no matter what he does, so might as well give him what he deserves. Heck, maybe it encourages more people to vote D when they see he can be held accountable.
these "congrats dems he will win 2020 now" shitposts are giving me life. y'all just holding up a neon sign with a down arrow that says you're a dumbass