Oregano

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I think people are confused about the fact that in order to get Gamepass on Switch Microsoft will have to have conceded something to Nintendo, not the other way around. Nintendo allowing Microsoft to circumvent the traditional third party model is already more than would be expected.

However I'm sure Microsoft is keen to be in a position of already partnering with Nintendo on streaming and subscription services if Nintendo is ever in a position that they have to abandon their existing business model.

Kind of impressed that people still managed to turn it into "Nintendo should go third party!" even at a time when Nintendo is very, very successful
 

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It's possible and dare I say likely at some point. Are they gonna give up the bread and butter IP like remastered 4K versions of Zelda and Mario....?..No. But I do think there are online competitive Nintendo titles that make perfect sense for Xbox and won't cannibalize Nintendo hardware sales..if anything just reach a different audience.
 

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I think people are confused about the fact that in order to get Gamepass on Switch Microsoft will have to have conceded something to Nintendo, not the other way around. Nintendo allowing Microsoft to circumvent the traditional third party model is already more than would be expected.

However I'm sure Microsoft is keen to be in a position of already partnering with Nintendo on streaming and subscription services if Nintendo is ever in a position that they have to abandon their existing business model.

Kind of impressed that people still managed to turn it into "Nintendo should go third party!" even at a time when Nintendo is very, very successful

In 10 years, when streaming video games is the standard, is Nintendo going to be able to operate their own streaming service? Or are they going to have to use someone else's technology?

What if they use AWS hardware and services? But the front end app is Nintendo content only?

People are having a conversation like it's 1995. The entire industry is radically shifting.
 

IIFloodyII

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No, probably not. It's very little benefit for them, especially as Xbox isn't exactly a completely different market. They already sell to the people thatXbox does.
 

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No, Microsoft and Nintendo are in two totally different positions. Microsoft is a service and software company that wants to be everywhere and it makes sense for them to extend their platform. The Switch part is getting all the attention because OMG Xbox games on Switch, but Switch is just one device of many that will see Xbox games.
 
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I think people are confused about the fact that in order to get Gamepass on Switch Microsoft will have to have conceded something to Nintendo, not the other way around. Nintendo allowing Microsoft to circumvent the traditional third party model is already more than would be expected.

However I'm sure Microsoft is keen to be in a position of already partnering with Nintendo on streaming and subscription services if Nintendo is ever in a position that they have to abandon their existing business model.

Kind of impressed that people still managed to turn it into "Nintendo should go third party!" even at a time when Nintendo is very, very successful
Microsoft putting games on Nintendo and the conversation still turns to "Nintendo should go 3rd party" is really weird
 

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In 10 years, when streaming video games is the standard, is Nintendo going to be able to operate their own streaming service? Or are they going to have to use someone else's technology?

What if they use AWS hardware and services? But the front end app is Nintendo content only?

People are having a conversation like it's 1995. The entire industry is radically shifting.
In 10 years? Probably, if not Nintendo would have streaming partners climbing over each other to either have them use their service or their tech to make their own.
EA and I think Ubi are doing their own streaming services, Nintendo likely can too, especially with 10 years to plan for it.
 

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In 10 years, when streaming video games is the standard, is Nintendo going to be able to operate their own streaming service? Or are they going to have to use someone else's technology?

What if they use AWS hardware and services? But the front end app is Nintendo content only?


People are having a conversation like it's 1995. The entire industry is radically shifting.

That would probably be the default assumption. Gamespy hosted Wii/DS online services and Nintendo uses Google servers for Switch online, and Hatena has been involved in stuff like Flipnote Studio and Miiverse.

However I think 10 years is a bit too ambitious and Nintendo would definitely be the hold out.
 

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No.
Nintendo is letting Microsoft use their console to expand their userbase for xCloud and Game Pass, that enough of itself.
 
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No. Nintendo have absolutely no reason to. They don't care about the streaming market, or the graphical arms race, or the notion of "generic"/"standard" hardware and games.

They live and die by their uniqueness. Even in a world where streaming services rule the traditional industry, Nintendo would still happily be able to live off of their own unique hardware and unique first party titles.

They'll gladly accept Microsoft's support, but there's nothing to gain from diluting themselves.
 
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hence this topic should've never been made and should be locked
Just want to clarify I made this topic because people wanted to talk about it, not to push some personal agenda.

I also think this thread is overwhelmingly in the "no" camp.

cause it's the truth, it's just a 'nother begging for nintendo to 3rd party topic under a good skin

I only play on Nintendo Switch and basically only post in threads related to Nintendo content so this feels weird to read.
 

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NSO exclusive content is the extent I would at most see this go

Nes games on xbox - yay.. uhh
 

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The possibility is absolutely there. Not that there's a big chance of it happening any time soon, but it's there.
 

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honestly, no
nintendo is in a great place and they've shown no interest to offer their games on other platforms (other than their few offerings on mobile which seem to be ways to get people to engage with their IPs and not offering full on nintendo games on mobile). nintendo has little to nothing to gain from putting their games on xbox.
microsoft on the other hand seems to be clearly going for a platform agnostic type of service to offer their games on other platforms so (assuming the rumors are true) putting gamepass on switch makes sense for them.
having said that, depending of how deep this partnership goes, i can see some multiplat collaborations between switch and xbox happening in the future, stuff like a golden eye remaster.
 

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Just want to clarify I made this topic because people wanted to talk about it, not to push some personal agenda.

I also think this thread is overwhelmingly in the "no" camp.



I only play on Nintendo Switch and basically only post in threads related to Nintendo content so this feels weird to read.
sorry i just find this topic pointless. nintendo doesn't need to post their stuff on other systems. with how well the switch doing well
 

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Of course. I mean, who'd have thought we'd be seeing Xbox titles on a Nintendo console a year ago. Anything could happen.
 

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I think people are confused about the fact that in order to get Gamepass on Switch Microsoft will have to have conceded something to Nintendo, not the other way around. Nintendo allowing Microsoft to circumvent the traditional third party model is already more than would be expected.

However I'm sure Microsoft is keen to be in a position of already partnering with Nintendo on streaming and subscription services if Nintendo is ever in a position that they have to abandon their existing business model.

Kind of impressed that people still managed to turn it into "Nintendo should go third party!" even at a time when Nintendo is very, very successful
People like Nintendo games, they don't like having to put up with the latest in Nintendo gimmicks.
 

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Ummm no.

Microsoft is approaching Nintendo as a third party publisher. There is absolutely no reason Nintendo needs to do the same with Xbox. They don't owe MS anything.
 

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Didn't some older games get ported to nvidia shield? Maybe something like that could happen, for some older games in some markets, on xcloud only.

I think in general though, no.
 

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Ummm no.

Microsoft is approaching Nintendo as a third party publisher. There is absolutely no reason Nintendo needs to do the same with Xbox. They don't owe MS anything.
i think some people are seeing this as an exchange and MS offering nintendo something and therefore deserving something in return, but really it's just MS getting a huge new userbase for their platform and services, that's what they're getting. nintendo is probably getting a very sweet deal in return, otherwise it wouldn't have been allowed on their system.
it's not nintendo here that's looking for a new audience for their games.
 

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i think some people are seeing this as an exchange and MS offering nintendo something and therefore deserving something in return, but really it's just MS getting a huge new userbase for their platform and services, that's what they're getting. nintendo is probably getting a very sweet deal in return, otherwise it wouldn't have been allowed on their system.

Yup
 

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I could see classic games being made available like NES/SNES/N64/GameCube, but no way for current titles.
 

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The mobile and NVIDIA Shield comparisons people have brought up in this thread and others are highly flawed, if not disingenuous.

The titles on the Shield are exclusive to the Chinese version and Nintendo has little brand presence in China. All of the products previously sold there were under the iQue brand and they recently announced that they're no longer distributing hardware to the Chinese market.

The mobile titles are spin-offs and/or watered down versions of their console games, not ports. They're meant to be introduce people to their own hardware.

Someone already brought up that Nintendo never ported their classic games to mobile even though they probably would have done well.

Assuming this whole deal is true, the benefits have been clearly outlined in Microsoft's case. More service subscriptions for them equals more money. Nintendo's main source of revenue is hardware.
 

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lol no.

Microsoft is just following a broader trend for them where they are trying to make a lot of their main stuff platform agnostic because their platforms are largely either waning or actively failing. It's somewhat of a desperation move to keep themselves from fading into irrelevance. Nintendo isn't anywhere close to a position where they'd have to do something like that.
 

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Nintendo: "We're consolidating our handheld and console teams. Only working on one platform means we can increase our output."

[Later]: "j/k We're optimizing a bunch of Xbox ports too!"

Also, the internet rage if some Nintendo game came out on Xbox with better graphics specs than Nintendo's hardware would break the web.
 

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Anything is possible if the rumours of the past few days are true. The industry is changing so much that no one can predict the future.

As a huge Nintendo fan though I'd absolutely love to be able to play games like Breath of the Wild at native 4k/60fps on my X or W10 PC instead of dynamic 900p/30fps when docked on Switch.

Yoshi running at 600p in 2019 is getting a bit ridiculous even though it looks good for 600p.
 

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Why don't people just enjoy what you have in Nintendo right now, they are the last true blue game company that's selling hardware.

In 10-15 years maybe you'll get your "faceless online service that controls everything gaming run by giant global conglomerate" where you're stuck paying $19.99 a month to access your games and there is no hardware left.
 
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I suppose it'd depend on the title. If the partnership continues to blossom, I could see some lower level stuff. Maybe titles that Nintendo struggles to sell, perhaps to try out a new market, but you'll never see the giants like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc on a Microsoft platform.
 

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I could see some Ninetendo 'exclusives' coming over. Bayo 2 and 3 for example. Or maybe some of the less 'obvious' Nintendo properties like Xenoblade.

But I dont see Mario and Zelda outside on a Microsoft console.
 

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If Gamepass on Switch is real I dont see why this would be impossible. Possibly it could require some sort of Nintendo subscription.

All of this still feels like a far fetched dream though, but one can hope.
 

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Why don't people just enjoy what you have in Nintendo right now, they are the last true blue game company that's selling hardware.

In 10-15 years maybe you'll get your "faceless online service that controls everything gaming run by giant global conglomerate" where you're stuck paying $19.99 a month to access your games and there is no hardware left.
Paying a sub for a full library of games is a huge win for me, there are some downsides but I am mostly glad if that is the future.
 

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The way Microsoft is moving, they probably see getting their platform out there as much as possible. Whatever is going on, if anything, I can see being very lopsided in the effort put into it, as in Microsoft is probably going to do a lot "for Nintendo" and Nintendo's part is basically just letting them.
 

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I could see certain properties being allocated to this for the cross-play possibilities (such as a multi-player Metroid game), but I doubt that we'll ever see a Mario or Zelda game on Xbox. That said, when I was playing BotW, as impressive as it was that it was running on Switch, I would've preferred that it be running on more powerful hardware to alleviate the performance issues.