I think Melty Blood has more chance. So Sion or Shiki Ryougi (*) are the only from Type-Moon deserve a chance in Smash.
I know Shiki is from a light novel, but as someone who can kill the impossible she should have the chance.
Really?I have seen all fate anime from the OG Fate to the (underrated) Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya. None of them contain any outrageous fan service.
You can argue that PW deserves to be in more than Fate thoYou can't argue for Phoenix Wright to be included but decide that Fate does not deserve to have a rep. Visual novels are video games.
Why? Honest question why?It would be really weird to see characters in Smash that originated in a hentai game tbh
By what metric?
Debatable, but I'll concede that.
So much hate in this thread
How could people be so against Artoria
I dunno, it's not really easy to wash away the stigma of porn, and it's hard for me to mentally sort porn-related characters together with normal Nintendo game characters.Why? Honest question why?
It hasn't been a hentai game for ages and has more then made a new mark for itself.
I'm not even a Fate fan but the amount of people hung up on this is weird.
By what metric?
Sales and influence? Because I'd say Fate comes out on top for both.
Get this disgusting filth off my screen!/sSo much hate in this thread
How could people be so against Artoria
Ace Attorney's inclusion would be wonderful too. I can't imagine how Sakurai would turn Phoenix Wright, a lawyer, into a fighter. But what I would want the most, anyway, is a Visual Novel representative, independently of the chosen VN. Fate could be an easy choice simply because it is already based on fighting: for example Archer would have a variagated moveset - from bows to swords - while Saber is the most well known character from this VN. Maybe the only concern would be that Saber's inclusion would be associated only to the mobile game instead to the VN, but in any case it would be a good thing for the whole genre.
I dunno, it's not really easy to wash away the stigma of porn, and it's hard for me to mentally sort porn-related characters together with normal Nintendo game characters.
Saber itself has had so many iterations throughout the years that there really isn't a problem with coming up with a moveset for her.Far from it, I think she's a cute and badass king
I just don't know how Sakurai can impliment the idea when she's originally from an eroge
No you see she was in an eroge 15 years ago. Clearly this means her moveset can't exclude taking cock.Saber itself has had so many iterations throughout the years that there really isn't a problem with coming up with a moveset for her.
Having a character designer who drew porn doesn't count.
*Ahem*Ace Attorney's inclusion would be wonderful too. I can't imagine how Sakurai would turn Phoenix Wright, a lawyer, into a fighter.
The author also drew hentai. A lot of other artists did/do too though so it's not that weird. Xenoblade 2's artist for example. The guy who did the artwork for Megamsn Legends/EXE/Star Force/11 did as well if I'm remembering right.
I guess so. Fate GO seems to be the best bet if we're going for variationsSaber itself has had so many iterations throughout the years that there really isn't a problem with coming up with a moveset for her.
Daily reminder that Misty's 10.
Yeah, in spite of protestations that the series is past it's porn-game origins for a while now, thinking Fate immediately brings up the association of porn game. Even in spite of being story heavy. Its a reputation that sticks.I dunno, it's not really easy to wash away the stigma of porn, and it's hard for me to mentally sort porn-related characters together with normal Nintendo game characters.
By what metric?
Sales and influence? Because I'd say Fate comes out on top for both.
It is a series that was born on nintendo handhelds, have all of its releases on nintendo handhelds. It is up there with Megaman for me for 3rd party games I associate with Nintendo.Can you really? I love AA and played all games, never played more than a minute of FGO, but Fate is orders of magnitude bigger than AA.
Artist drew porn and the comic itself was surprisingly raunchy. It was pretty heavily censored for the english release.
.......do I even need to say anything here?It is a series that was born on nintendo handhelds, have all of its releases on nintendo handhelds. It is up there with Megaman for me for 3rd party games I associate with Nintendo.
Smash isn't about sales and influence, it is about the history of videogame, and, for me, Ace Attorney represents the history of videogames better than Fate
A game series that sells less than 3 million copies worldwide vs a billion dollar franchise with tons of multimedia project
How Cloud isn't important for the history of videogames?
Yeah, in spite of protestations that the series is past it's porn-game origins for a while now, thinking Fate immediately brings up the association of porn game. Even in spite of being story heavy. Its a reputation that sticks.
I think the point that there aren't many Fate games on Nintendo platforms is probably the barrier though.
The main game being promoted through such a crossover would be the mobile gacha FGO, which would be less desirable than promoting nothing at all like Banjo.
... I'm not saying this is disqualifying, just that I'm mildly against the idea because of that.
I bet he would if typemoon gives him free orbs for putting saber in.How Cloud isn't important for the history of videogames?
And joker is in because Sakuari loves Persona. I doubt he cares about Fate
Fixed.Artist drew porn and the comic itself was surprisingly raunchy. It was pretty heavily censored for the American release.
Well, I wouldn't put it next to nothing, but clearly the reason for investment should be there.To answer the question posed by this thread: yes, I count Fate as a video game franchise, but I think it's odds of being included in Smash are next to nothing.
I really doubt he even have time to play FGO with how occupied he is with developing smash and playing console games alreadyI bet he would if typemoon gives him free orbs for putting saber in.
He can def play fgo during commute!I really doubt he even have time to play FGO with how occupied he is with developing smash and playing console games already
Well as I said, she's so iconic that there's even a term called "saber face".The Persona series has sold 10 million.
I'm not sure why sales have anything to do with being a "hero." Sales aren't the end all be all. Terry Bogard is in Smash.
Fucking disgusting. That anime is actually pedophilic.I don't recall "most Fates games/anime going as low".
I have seen all fate anime from the OG Fate to the (underrated) Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya. None of them contain any outrageous fan service.
Fixed.
And people are so fixated on Fate's NSFW origins here. What's the big deal? I mean, if Bayonetta can get it...
Well, I wouldn't put it next to nothing, but clearly the reason for investment should be there.
I think saber would be like hero with 4 distinc saber as alts.Hmm...
What are Sakurai's thoughts on mobile games and mobage in general?
Fate has become a global phenomenon thanks to FGO's international release, so I'm betting any representation would be mostly calling back to FGO than the original.
Not sure if I should be more concerned about you denying this has no outrageous fan service, or the fact that I know IT DOES has outrageous fan service.I don't recall "most Fates games/anime going as low".
I have seen all fate anime from the OG Fate to the (underrated) Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya. None of them contain any outrageous fan service.
Most of the Fate spinoff games also don't contain low stuff. Fate Tigger, The PSP/PS2 fighting game, Fate Extra and the Fate Extalla games are pretty mild
People keep bringing up F/SNs original release being an eroge as the primary reason it won't be accepted.Bayonetta isn't even in the same stratosphere and I don't know why people keep bringing it up like it's some 'gotcha' moment.
And I don't get why the series having sex scenes once and then never again is a gotcha.Bayonetta isn't even in the same stratosphere and I don't know why people keep bringing it up like it's some 'gotcha' moment.
Yeah, I wonder how much more questionable anime you have to consume to think that Prism Ilya doesn't have fanservice. Even the idea that Prism Ilya has mild fanservice.